Feb 3Hugo S.
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Tim E.
has entered the room
Tim E.
hello hugo; thought you were sitting this one out
Hugo S.
Well it\\47s 6am and i\\47m at a mine in the far north of Australia but i
managed to get a computer so i\\47ll be here intermitently =)
Hugo S.
I haven\\47t had any time to think of som e questions though. Where\\47s
the list so far
Tim E.
good morning, then
Feb 3Tim E.
not a lot of people have posted yet; there is a thread in the google
group with a few
Hugo S.
Things are certainly happening in the wine2.0 space these days. I\\47ve
had a brief look at the meta standards but are they being adopted
Philip J.
has entered the room
Tim E.
I think they will, at least for the sites I\\47m involved with... I met
with Crushpad when I was in San Francisco this week and they are
looking into metaformats for some of their sites... Alan may join
this discussion today, as well.
Philip J.
hi guys
Tim E.
hello, philip
Feb 3Jason C.
has entered the room
Tim E.
is that your question for discussion, hugo
Tim E.
hi jason
Jason C.
Hello.
Jason C.
How is everyone
Tim E.
great; super cold here in MN
Tim E.
-9\\47 F right now, for example
Jason C.
yowch
Tim E.
it was 62\\47 F in napa this monday when i was there; a 70\\47 swing in
just a few days...
Philip J.
painful - 25 in NYC now, not too bad
Philip J.
as in +25, not -25!
Jason C.
I used to fly to Missouri from Philadelphia every week for work. I
used to joke about how I would get out to Missouri on Monday for the
rain and get back to Philadelphia in time to catch it again once it moved east.
Tim E.
let\\47s wait for a couple more minutes; i think the wineq guys will be here...
Jason C.
Great.
Feb 3Jason C.
I just asked the interactive 8ball how this chat would go and go this
response: "sdasfhsjfhsdfkhfsd".
Jason C.
http://www.interactive8ball.com
Jason C.
(that\\47s another one of our fun little projects)
Tim E.
that\\47s not a good sign ;-)
Tim E.
we\\47ll start in 2 min at 10 past the hour...
Feb 3Tim E.
Hello, everyone! Thanks for joining us for the 3rd chat about Wine 2.0...
Tim E.
This time I\\47d like to conduct the chat a bit differently; let\\47s
discuss one subject from each participant until we are done, then
move to the next person. I\\47ll keep track of who is here and moderate,
etc. Sound OK
Philip J.
good
Jason C.
ok
Jeff S.
has entered the room
Tim E.
Then let\\47s start with my question: the business model for web stores
like WineQ and Boutique Wine Cellar is pretty clear (transaction
fees, etc.), but all the other Wine 2.0 sites is less so (at least to
me). What is the business model for tasting notes sites, aggregators
and social news sites
Tim E.
hello, el jefe!
Tim E.
i just posted my question to the group - the business model for web
stores like WineQ and Boutique Wine Cellar is pretty clear
(transaction fees, etc.), but all the other Wine 2.0 sites is less so
(at least to me). What is the business model for tasting notes sites,
aggregators and social news sites
Jason C.
I guess I\\47ll start.
Tim E.
fire away, jason
Jason C.
We have about 4 opportunities that we are considering and have yet to focus...
Jason C.
... the plan is to let the market focus. But I\\47ll talk a little bit
about some of our ideas.
Tim E.
by "market focus" do you mean building an audience
Jason C.
(1) Charge a subscription feed for a "premium account". There are 2
kinds of premium accounts we are thinking of... 1a Adding features
for managing a wine club. 2a adding features for people with larger
wine cellars.
Jason C.
sorry. meant to say let the market tell us where to focus.
Jason C.
which would mean feedback to us and also whatever group we get to
jump on board with these ideas first.
Feb 3Tim E.
OK, so your plan is to build out a set of features, then tier them
into free and for pay areas; correct
Jason C.
(2) Publisher route. We can collect our data and blog stuff into a
newsletter or "digest form" and charge a subscription to that. We
would then be competing with traditional wine publications, but with
the idea that our content is "from the people for the people" or
"quantity vs. quality"
Jason C.
Yes.
Jason C.
can get to the other 2 later.
Tim E.
OK, that\\47s a good start; thanks, jason... anyone else have thoughts
on this subject
Philip J.
ok, well i cant comment on all of the 3 but they are basically about
providing a centralised repository of information for consumers to
visit, interact with and establish trust on. Once thats been
accomplished (and its very web 2.0) you can monetize the traffic.
Options include: PPC referrals to wine stores; Sell out immediately
to a large content/news site; Premium access (linked in and imdb are
good examples of this, and you either charge power users or
professionals); licensing the data to interested parties
Jason C.
(3) Provide technology for tasting rooms, restaurants, or wineries,
or wine bars so their patrons can take their experience and tasing
notes with them.
Tim E.
what sort of data on your last point, philip
Philip J.
my question (which refers to market size) follows on from my points,
but i\\47ll save it for when its my turn
Tim E.
very interesting idea, jason (#3)... is this your mobile phone initiative
Jason C.
Not exactly, but it could be part of it.
Philip J.
personally unidentifiable demographic and preference data - if i were
a burgundy producer looking to introduce my portfolio to the US,
which states do i start in what price points etc
Jason C.
I envision tasting rooms with computers in them for people to log the
wine they\\47ve tried. They could also use tablets, pda, or phones.
Jason C.
Or even just collecting the emails from the patrons and bugging them
later to see the wines they\\47ve tried at WineLog.
Feb 3Tim E.
that makes sense, philip; sort of like the data tivo collects from
customers and shares with advertisers
Tim E.
or provide an SMS gateway, jason, to collect notes while on the road
that could be further updated while at their computers later
Philip J.
right, data mining basically. the problem with that is you need a
hell of a lot of data to even begin. no one source has that yet, and
even if everyone bundled it together i dont know if there\\47s enough
online penetration of these sites to give statistically valid results
Jason C.
Right. That is part of the winelog mobile idea. WL Mobile was one of
my questions, so we can hold off til later to talk further.
Tim E.
i think winezap has the SMS thing working now, as a proof of concept
but it\\47s for pricing data
Jason C.
Yeah, it\\47s pretty decent. We might even include links to WineZap\\47s
mobile site on our mobile pages.
Hugo S.
Internet on mobiles is only going to get broader this year. Which
will make it much easier
Jason C.
It\\47s basically their search app for a small screen.
Tim E.
is the adoption of mobile messaging similar to europe or the US in oz, hugo
Tim E.
in the US it is mostly used by teenagers, etc.
Jeff S.
has left the room
Tim E.
in europe it seem everyone uses it
Hugo S.
you mean basic sms ans mms yes those are huge with young and old,
but mainly yound here in oz.
Hugo S.
(sms and mms)
Jeff S.
has entered the room
Feb 3Tim E.
thanks, hugo, sounds similar to the US usage model... this will be a
barrier for some of these sites to overcome
Jason C.
Right, Phillip (RE data). And it seems that this data would be more
useful to smaller wineries... but then we don\\47t have as much data on
smaller wineries.
Hugo S.
I thought of a business related question, so can i go next
Tim E.
yes; hold on hugo, let\\47s close this one out first... any other
thoughts before me move on
Hugo S.
sure thing
Jason C.
(Hugo, are you the hugo at http://www.hugosharp.com)
Jeff S.
smaller winery finally made it...
Jason C.
Tim, are we crazy
Tim E.
how\\47s the traffic in the TR, el jefe
Hugo S.
yes... there\\47s not much on it yet, just some concept stuff i\\47ve been trying
Hugo S.
all must seem a bit weird at the moment
Tim E.
what do you mean by crazy, jason
Jason C.
Crazy to think we can make money without actually selling wine.
Hugo S.
(oh oh that\\47s my question)...
Jeff S.
TR is OK, computers are a pain...
Tim E.
no, i think you have a way to make some money but it will depend a
lot on aggregating a lot of traffic...
Hugo S.
sorry TR
Jeff S.
tasting room
Tim E.
...i\\47m not sure if the wine genre will build huge numbers online like
tech, politics and news, but we\\47ll see
Tim E.
TR = tasting room
Jason C.
Jefe, you have computers in your tasting room We should talk about
hooking it up with WineLog if you\\47re interested in that sort of thing.
Jason C.
:)
Hugo S.
Tim, it will if we all succeed here...
Tim E.
el jefe runs a winery
Jeff S.
Jason, are you just trying to scare me
Jason C.
I see a few trends helping us Wine2.0 entrepreneuers. (1) More people
are drinking wine. (2) Younger people are drinking wine (who go
online). (3) More people are going online. (4) More people are doing
more mundane things (like finding wine) online.
Jason C.
We should be able to catch a wave in there somewhere to ride out.
Feb 3Jason C.
No, Jefe.
Jeff S.
true - in fact we have a cheap computer set up in the TR so people
can see our website and blog
Hugo S.
and Jason, (5) the intersate US wine laws are relaxing
Tim E.
the thing that bothers me a bit is it seems like there are too many
tasting notes sites right now... who will gain critical mass is not clear
Jason C.
Yeah, that\\47s a biggy, Hugo. Thanks for reminding me.
Hugo S.
Niche wine regions is where we can all participate in tasting sites
Jason C.
Yeah, I think it is a pretty saturated market. I\\47m sure not all of us
will "survive".
Tim E.
OK, let\\47s move to the next question... i\\47m moving in the order of
entry into the chat room, so hugo is next... fire away, man
Jason C.
Stuff like microformats and open, shared databases might help. So we
all have the same data and it becomes a game of who can present it
and make it usable.
Hugo S.
A myspace style tasting site for the whole world will cut against the
grain of many boutique wine drinkers i think. especially if you can\\47t
buy everything on that said site
Tim E.
what about a "my space" that is not that notes focused but more social
Tim E.
a page where people can share notes, yes, but also interact and
set-up offline events, etc.
Jason C.
I think it could work. I don\\47t see people demanding a site like that though.
Jason C.
Cork\\47d has their "drinking buddies" concept and personal
recommendations (you should try this wine, buddy).
Jason C.
We added notes to the wine log pages in a nod to My Space, but no one
seems to be using them.
Hugo S.
Question: The business model of sites like wineq (selling a few wines
direct from a region) although robust in generating some cash, is
quite limited in size. This would change greatly if the state laws
change. (1) when could this happen across most of the US. (2) Is this
a prime time to get set up and be sittin gthere with a great service
running when it does
Feb 3Philip J.
can i take this as a wine retailer!
Philip J.

Tim E.
that is the chicken and egg problem, jason; i\\47m not sure if people
would have said they wanted My Space before they launched... probably
similar to sites like yours, as well ;-)
Jason C.
true.
Philip J.
wine messenger has been around for 12 years and has gone though 7
years of state license acquisition and now serves 25 states. Let me
tell you its a logistical nightmare. We have 25% of the management
team devoted to compliance issues. Companies like New Vine try to
pull together a virtual 3rd party fulfillment system, but its slow
and awfully expensive
Jason C.
Tim E., some of what we are thinking about with relation to \\47wine
clubs\\47 is related to your last point around more "social" features
for the site.
Philip J.
things are changing slowly, state by state and fastest for the
wineries, but its 10-15 years before the playing field really is level
Jason C.
wow.
Hugo S.
yes wow
Jason C.
Philip, do you have any insights in what might happen in PA now that
the Chairman has been replaced with a "CEO"
Philip J.
eh is that the pa liquor authority
Jason C.
yeah.
Tim E.
good point about wine clubs, philip; there are interesting ideas
about this in the wine blog world led by what Lenn Thompson is doing
with his new club
Jeff S.
its actually worse for retailers than for wineries right now - and
yes the compliance issues are huge when you are dealing with 50+
export scenarios and shipping limits etc.
Philip J.
wine messenger has license #00001 for PA, but we still ship to state
stores. its hard to change all of this, the big 5 import/distributors
spend millions lobbying the states to keep the status quo - its how
they stay rich
Tim E.
compliance is a huge barrier but this will get easier to manage once
some automation is put in place... vendors are working on this one now.
Jason C.
(btw, cute picks of Lenn\\47s new baby son at his blog now:
http://allmovie4u.com/)
Philip J.
who\\47s lenn thompson
Feb 3Philip J.
it will change, and i think there\\47s good money to be made, its just
not today, or even for the rest of this decade. sadly
Tim E.
LENNDEVOURS blog... a wine blogger who covers New York state wine...
and, yes, his son is pretty cute; just a couple days old now...
Philip J.
however, people can still carve out a niche - CA wines; high end
wines fulfilled thorugh wine messenger on the east coast, or New Vine
on the west coast; monthly clubs (much easier to manage as its just a
few sku\\47s and the forward visibility is good)
Jeff S.
Tim - I still have to acquire organize and transfer the data to a
service, who basically fills out forms for me...
Tim E.
el jefe: let\\47s talk about this issue later on the phone...
Jeff S.
ok
Hugo S.
That answers it for me unless you guys want to continue
Tim E.
the licensing issues philip speaks of are the biggest barriers for
selling wine online today; very political with strong interests and a
lot of money at stake.
Tim E.
OK, thanks Hugo... let\\47s go next to Philip who I think joined the
chat next... (Jason, you are on-deck)
Philip J.
yeah thats it for me
Philip J.
ok, good.
Philip J.
coming
Feb 3Philip J.
i think we\\47ve established what wine 2.0 is, and spoke a little about
the barriers facing 2.0 retailers (wineq) and wine 2.0 platforms
(winelog), but i wanted to ask about the market size. The wine market
is 23 bn $ in the US, but its still over 90% offline.
Philip J.
is there enough online focus / spend on wine for there to really be a
big wine 2.0 movement, and if not when will it hit
Philip J.
from what little research wine messenger has done the average person
on the street has never purhcased or researched wine online
Philip J.
yet
Philip J.
comments
Hugo S.
The first thing i do is go online and check out a wineries website,
and more and more tasting notes
Jeff S.
ten years ago people didn\\47t research camera purchases online...
Jason C.
I already listed those 4 things that point towards more people
researching wine online.
Tim E.
i think that most wine sold here is not in the premium category that
gets blogged and discussed online today. so i think the niche is
being developed at the high end right now but there is space for
other sectors to be covered and exploited, etc.
Jason C.
I had a related question around how to get non-wine drinkers
interested in our wine2.0 sites.
Hugo S.
fire away
Jason C.
That\\47s it :) How can we get non-wine drinkers interested in our sites.
Hugo S.
(excuse my impulse moderation Tim)
Tim E.
let\\47s finish with philip\\47s question first, then get into jason\\47s
Tim E.
they do sort of overlap, however ;-)
Jason C.
I think also a lot of this will come when the real world wine stores,
wineries, etc, start to get more connected.
Jason C.
Like El Jefe putting a WineLog terminal in his tasting room ;)
Feb 3Philip J.
they do overlap, so i dont mind if we skip around
Jason C.
Yeah, that\\47s why I threw it out there. I thought it was a rephrasing
of Phil\\47s question. (don\\47t want to step on anyone\\47s toes)
Philip J.
the market size is what it is - we all want to make it bigger, and i
think thats a fundamental reason we we are all talking here
Jason C.
Yeah. I do think it is relatively small today. But that means it is
under the radar and we can get in before the big boys start throwing
money and effort at it.
Tim E.
so getting back to philip\\47s question, i think we are at the very
early stages of online discussion of wine... forums have been with us
for years (pre-internet, in fact) and wine blogs only 3 years or so.
Jason C.
By the time they do, they\\47ll want to just buy up us little guys to catch up.
Jeff S.
getting more of that market to come our way is also success
Jason C.
(Not that that is our exit strategy.)
Jeff S.
not a bad way to exit, Jason...
Jason C.
yeah, really.
Jason C.
Then we also have the wines like Storm Hoek (sp), which is basically
an internet winery no
Jeff S.
on Philip\\47s question, I think it takes critical mass.
Jason C.
Tim, aren\\47t you working with a winery on internet/young-friendly wines
Tim E.
so let me take a different tack on answering the question. in the vc
world for tech startups, the money is going to mobile companies...
those using the web to deliver to mobile devices (phones, PDA\\47s,
etc.). I think the site(s) that do mobile first and maybe even best
will gain large audiences outside of us wine geeks.
Jeff S.
Amazon book ratings weren\\47t relevant until enough people had rated books
Jeff S.
good point Tim
Tim E.
first to market will be important and ease of use, too
Jason C.
Yeah, mobile is pretty hot right now. They\\47re getting all the press
at the recent "DEMO" conference.
Jeff S.
don\\47t forget hip-ness
Tim E.
stormhoek has used the internet (blogs, mostly) to market their wine...
Jason C.
+iPhone, etc.
Feb 3Jeff S.
consider a mobile device that makes it easy to \\47digg\\47 a wine while
you are drinking it...
Tim E.
...you still have to go to the wine store or grocery store to buy the
wine as they don\\47t sell online (yet)
Jason C.
But there is a lot of truth in the fact that most people will have
web-enabled phones within a year or so. And the screens and software
will be much more usable.
Jason C.
Phillip, any follow ups
Hugo S.
I think given the statistic "that the average time between buying and
openning a wine is 5 minutes" or something like that, that it\\47s clear
the bulk of that $20b is spent out and about. And most of those
purchases would be impulse or rnadom(ish). I think therefore that
mobile interaction is the key to critical mass of "online/cloud" wine
information.
Tim E.
right, el jefe, but where is the "Digg" for wine
Jason C.
<---
Jason C.
jk
Jeff S.
lol
Tim E.
yep hugo; the average cellaring time is in the trunk on the way home ;-)
Philip J.
the 20bn is liquor stores and retail only - it doesnt include restaurants
Philip J.
not 100 sure that a mobile app is the way to go at first
Jason C.
Mobile is also hard to monetize.
Philip J.
what average cunsumer uses a cell phone for anything other than calls or text
Jason C.
Carriers are a bitch to work with. And it\\47s hard to fit ads on those
tiny little phones.
Jason C.
I think things are changing... we\\47re at an inflection point.
Philip J.
you could probably raise vc money that way though. i would say a web
app with mobile integration is the way to go. focus on the hard core
web savvy users and pray that wine.com and all the wineries expand
the market fast enough!
Jason C.
I\\47m an early adopter, but I\\47ve been craving WineLog mobile last few
times I was at the wine store... I\\47ve checked email on my phone...
stock quotes...
Jason C.
I see a lot of people in NYC getting directions and looking up
restaurants on their phones.
Tim E.
i agree that there are barriers in the use to mobile
adoption/consumption of wine info but it will be exploited by someone
here and money will be made, etc.
Tim E.
any other discussion on philip and jason\\47s questions
Jason C.
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WineLog Mobile. What do you need What do you want What should we
avoid

Feb 3Jason C.
Talking about features. I did have a link for you guys to the dev
version, but noticed a bug. Might be able to fix it before the end of the chat.
Tim E.
hmm, that\\47s interesting...
Philip J.
jason youre a web developer! i dont think you represent the rest of
the market...
Jason C.
Right now we have: access to your log, wishlist, cellar from the
mobile. Access to the info that is on our wine info pages
(variety/region/winery, comments and notes, price, link to WineZap)
Jason C.
Yeah, but in a couple years everyone will be like me. While I\\47m off
using my phone to drive my car or whatever.
Philip J.
ive done customer usability studies - these were people who were web
savvy enough to respond to a craigslist ad. dont underestimate how
far behind they were
Jason C.
And WineLog Mobile v1 is probably going to have basic
browsing/searching features.
Tim E.
perhaps a way to query winezap info with a single cIick to find the
wine based upon where i am at the moment
Philip J.
most were unable to use wine.com - and i always thought that was a
very intuitive site
Jason C.
ok. thanks, Phillip.
Jason C.
(I meant that last comment sincerely.)
Jason C.
Tim, do you mean "What wine is at this store"
Philip J.
yeash sorry jason - it shocked us at wine messenger too!
Tim E.
the mobile phone knows where i am based upon the towers, etc. so why
not use that info to generate a winezap search to find a specific wine
Feb 3Tim E.
for example, if i\\47m in san francisco and want to find a wine someone
else has logged, then i cIick on a link and winezap info is sms-ed back to me
Jason C.
I think there are some people out there who have databases of the
inventory of wine shops, grocery stores, etc. or building them
anyway. It seems like a monumental task.
Jason C.
But assuming you had that. That would be awesome.
Jason C.
I know that PA has a great system already for finding "What PA store
around here has wine x"
Tim E.
getting back to your question, allow me to log and rate wines via my
mobile phone
Jason C.
It would be great to deal up with them to be able to send people to
closest store with whatever recommended wine at it.
Tim E.
via sms or a java app
Tim E.
sms would make the most sense
Tim E.
java would make is really easy but is not available on all phones
Jason C.
RE rating from Phone. We\\47re thinking of offering 2 ways. One is a
mobile web site, where you can log into WineLog, find or add the wine
and rate it. (just like our site but on a mobile screen.)
Jeff S.
some time ago used book stores figured out it was in their best
interest to put their book databases on the web
Tim E.
yea, that would work fine, jason; a WAP site for winelog
Jeff S.
thru services like alibris.com
Jeff S.
so it could happen
Jason C.
The second way would be to send a text message to mobile@winelog.net
(or whatever) like "2002 WineX Chardonnay", which would send you an
email with appropriate links to WineLog to add/log/rate it.
Tim E.
i hope so, jeff
Jason C.
(we would check the phone number of the incoming email to figure out
who to email it to)
Tim E.
that would also work, jason, but only with us geeks ;-) the wap site
is what i\\47d concentrate on unless the sms way is trivial
Jason C.
It would be interesting to look into how those book stores go about
putting their inventories online...
Tim E.
then do them both
Feb 3Jason C.
Stores like Wine Library, which have a physical and web presence,
would probably be the first to do this (we could just query their online store)
Jason C.
I think we\\47ll do both. WAP site might come first.
Tim E.
micheal from wine commune, winezap, etc. has blogged about this
problem so there must be some political issues, not to mention the
whole problem of standardized naming conventions
Jeff S.
Jason - there is probably info on alibris.com on that - how to hook
your stores DB into their service
Jason C.
I\\47ve used Google from my phone through their WAP site and through
SMS. I would still use both ways in different contexts.
Jason C.
Thanks for the tip, Jeff.
Jason C.
And time.
Joshua
has entered the room
Tim E.
OK, if we are done with those questions, then let\\47s move to el jefe
Tim E.
hi josh
Joshua
Sorry I\\47m arriving so late...
Jeff S.
I didn\\47t have anything specific to ask... I\\47m pretty much interested
in all of your collective success because it means my wine is getting
out there...
Tim E.
we are at the end of each person\\47s questions; i think el jefe was
just hanging out so if he doesn\\47t have a question you can close us
out with one of your own, josh
Jeff S.
hi Josh
Tim E.
so if you have a question, josh, fire away...
Jason C.
Jeff, I have a marketing opportunity.
Jason C.
Should I just throw it out there or do you want to talk offline first
Joshua
Just a sec.
Tim E.
...if not, we are a wrap for today.
Joshua
Let\\47s go ahead and wrap
Joshua
I had some questions rolling around in my head, but I\\47ve not gotten a
chance to organize them yet. :-)
Jason C.
Hi, Josh.
Joshua
Actually, here\\47s a question: How did this forum work for you guys
Tim E.
OK, thanks everyone! i think this went much better than earlier chats
due to the organization and smaller attendance...
Jeff S.
Jason - that would be your call since I do not know what it is...:)
Hugo S.
Well that worked well taking it in turns.
Feb 3Joshua
What do you think of Campfire, compared to Lingr
Tim E.
...i propose we have another one of there here (if josh is OK with
it) to discuss microformats.
Jason C.
I\\47m a big campfire fan now.
Joshua
Yep, feel free to use this room anytime you like.
Tim E.
much better and faster, but there were only 5 of us in the room
Jeff S.
its fine except for some reason it would not auto scroll...
Joshua
As some of you may have discovered, the door is always open, here,
and so if any of you want to have impromptu chats, it\\47s available.
Jason C.
WineLog has a campfire setup if we want to share the "hosting"
responsibilities. ALthough it\\47s not that tough and I don\\47t mind where we chat.
Tim E.
any thoughts on days of the week and timing
Hugo S.
I just git a beta invite to a new service similar to this coming out
of oz. it\\47s meant to be multy media. I\\47ll check it out and we could
use that if (only if) it\\47s much better.
Jason C.
sweet.
Joshua
Mid-day on Saturday turns out to be more tricky than I was expecting. :-)
Joshua
I think evenings will be easier for me to attend, in the future.
Jason C.
weekdays are actually better for me usually.
Jeff S.
weekdays
Tim E.
OK, since we didn\\47t have anyone from europe this time (that\\47s why I
chose Sat. mid-day) let\\47s do back to weekday
Joshua
I guess bending over backwards for the Europeans didn\\47t work out so well.
Tim E.
thursday
Joshua
(no political commentary intended, there.)
Jason C.
ha
Philip J.
weekdays
Jason C.
Here\\47s a link to the WineLog Mobile alpha:
Jason C.
http://allmovie4u.com/
Joshua
thursdays are generally fine for me
Tim E.Jeff S.
thats a good day for me
Jason C.
You can substitute "jason" with your own username if you have one.
Jason C.
Just winelog and wine info pages up there so far.
Joshua
that time works fine for me
Philip J.
fine
Tim E.
that\\47s midnight in europe; not too bad
Jeff S.
ok
Tim E.
ok, i\\47ll post a date in march; thanks again everyone!
Jason C.
Thanks.
Jeff S.
thanks Tim
Joshua
Tim, do you need an archive of the conversation I can log in and get
that for you, if necessary.
Jason C.
Jefe, let me call you early next week RE that marketing idea.
Jeff S.
(Josh can I call you)
Jason C.
If you pass, I\\47ll give out on the google group.
Tim E.
yes, please email the chat log to me and i will post to the google group
Tim E.
thanks
Jeff S.
Jason - OK
Joshua
Yes, Jeff: 505-994-4440
Jason C.
Go Bears!
Jason C.
Everyone have a good weekend.
Feb 3Tim E.
you too; go Colts!
Tim E.
;-)
Joshua
Jeff, if you can give me 30 minutes before you call, that would be great
Jeff S.
cheers!
Jeff S.
will do
Tim E.
thanks for the room, joshua!
Joshua
no problem, and sorry again i couldn\\47t join for the full event.
Joshua
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Tim E.
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Philip J.
bye
Jeff S.
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