[17:49] Sips Supply is Online
[17:50] Sips Supply: Is this where the meeting is
[17:50] Marshy Flossberg: Hey!
[17:50] Calben Gastel is Offline
[17:50] Marshy Flossberg: hello vino
[17:50] Sips Supply is Online
[17:50] You: hi, everyone
[17:50] Marshy Flossberg: we should move to the larger platform
[17:50] You: i'm not sure which platform will be the best for this...
[17:50] You: yea, that's a good idea.
[17:50] Marshy Flossberg: this way guys!
[17:51] Marshy Flossberg shouts: Sips, over here!
[17:51] You: this seems larger
[17:51] Marshy Flossberg: yes
[17:51] Marshy Flossberg: disappointed about there not being a winery :(
[17:52] You: man, el jefe, you need to work on the flying bit
[17:52] Sips Supply: Vino, What Grenche are you having tonight
[17:52] You: tres picos
[17:52] You: 2004
[17:52] You: how about you
[17:52] Glass of Grenache whispers: Bottoms UP!
[17:52] Sips Supply: I'm sipping a little Killikanoon Prodigal.
[17:52] Marshy Flossberg: hehehe
[17:53] You: what the heck is that
[17:53] ElJefe Packbiers: i need to get a glass
[17:53] Marshy Flossberg: i'm not drinking. too much work to do on WineQ!
[17:53] Sips Supply: incredible aussie grenache!
[17:53] You: when are you coming out of closed beta
[17:53] Marshy Flossberg: you'll be the first to knkow!
[17:53] ElJefe Packbiers: sips - which aussie
[17:54] Marshy Flossberg: :)
[17:54] Sips Supply:
[17:54] Sips Supply: Killikanoon
[17:54] ElJefe Packbiers: cool
[17:54] ElJefe Packbiers: ive got my sierra foothills grenahce 2004
[17:54] Sips Supply: who's in beta
[17:54] You: WineQ
[17:54] Calben Gastel is Online
[17:54] You: or is it wineq
[17:55] Marshy Flossberg: WineQ
[17:55] You: what's the Q for
[17:55] You: ;-)
[17:55] Marshy Flossberg: Queue :)
[17:55] Marshy Flossberg: Netflix for wine
[17:55] You: ah, i get it
[17:55] Sips Supply: It was a real puzzle finding this place...
[17:56] You: i posted a link to teleport here
[17:56] Marshy Flossberg: yeah but when you cIick on it, you have to cIick the map
[17:56] ElJefe Packbiers: wineQ - do you cellar that cab for me until i need it...
[17:56] Sips Supply: missed it somehow.
[17:56] Marshy Flossberg: :) pretty much
[17:56] Sips Supply: speaking of wine...that's why I'm "Sips"
[17:57] Marshy Flossberg: brb
[17:57] ElJefe Packbiers: it takes a lot of beer to make wine, which is why i am 'packbiers'...:)
[17:57] You: i'm going to IM some of the other who are on but not here yet
[17:57] You: brb
[17:57] Mudita Wilber is Online
[17:57] Marshy Flossberg: k
[17:57] Marshy Flossberg: my partner is on his way
[17:57] ElJefe Packbiers: brb
[17:57] California Maverick is Online
[17:57] Marshy Flossberg: brb
[17:58] Marshy Flossberg: afk
[17:58] Sips Supply: I'll have a sips while we're waiting
[17:59] Sips Supply: I see other on the map
[18:00] Sips Supply: mudita...turn around
[18:01] Sips Supply: nice view
[18:02] Sips Supply: come on down!
[18:02] Mudita Wilber: Good grief
[18:02] Winelife Forager is Offline
[18:02] Lenndevours Cooke is Online
[18:02] ElJefe Packbiers: back
[18:02] Sips Supply: welcome
[18:02] Mudita Wilber: Can't figure ouut how to get down
[18:02] Marshy Flossberg: cIick stop flying
[18:02] Sips Supply: page down key
[18:03] Marshy Flossberg: or page down
[18:03] Winelife Forager is Online
[18:03] Mudita Wilber: thank you!
[18:03] Winelife Forager is Online
[18:03] Mudita Wilber: my World Map is covering my incoming messages, is it safe to close it
[18:03] Sips Supply: CA weclome
[18:03] Marshy Flossberg: yes
[18:03] ElJefe Packbiers: hey
[18:03] Mudita Wilber: sheesh, i am still figuring out this whole corporeal body thing :-)
[18:04] Mudita Wilber: nice glasses, Marshy
[18:04] Marshy Flossberg: thanks
[18:04] Marshy Flossberg: i couldnt figure out how to get rid of them
[18:04] Marshy Flossberg: didn't have time to! i have a website to finish!
[18:05] California Maverick: hi everone
[18:05] You: this seemed like a good idea...
[18:05] Mudita Wilber: indeed
[18:05] Sips Supply: let's start
[18:05] ElJefe Packbiers: roger that marshy - but you can still have wine and code!
[18:05] Hugo Cordeaux is Online
[18:05] Marshy Flossberg: hi winelife
[18:05] Marshy Flossberg: nice clothes
[18:05] You: we still have people arriving
[18:05] ElJefe Packbiers: hey winelife - nice threads
[18:05] Winelife Forager: Howdy
[18:05] Sips Supply: traffic must be bad tongiht
[18:05] ElJefe Packbiers: lol
[18:05] Winelife Forager: thx
[18:06] You: our host is not here yet (josh)
[18:06] ElJefe Packbiers: and the caterer...
[18:06] Mudita Wilber: Marsh just got ouf of the shower, obviously
[18:06] Calben Gastel is Offline
[18:06] Sips Supply: what's his (Josh) SL name
[18:07] Marshy Flossberg: i lost my clothes
[18:07] California Maverick: lol
[18:07] Sips Supply: LOL LOL
[18:07] ElJefe Packbiers: russianriver vallely
[18:07] Marshy Flossberg: at least i still have my shoes
[18:07] You: gooday hugo
[18:07] Calben Gastel is Online
[18:07] Hugo Cordeaux: hello
[18:08] You: hang on one sec
[18:08] ElJefe Packbiers: brb
[18:08] Sips Supply: need a towel Marshy
[18:08] California Maverick: hey joel, hows it goin
[18:08] Winelife Forager: Not bad. Hangin' in there
[18:08] California Maverick: sips can you hear me
[18:08] ElJefe Packbiers: back
[18:08] Sips Supply: yes
[18:09] Winelife Forager: They should put some audio in this
[18:09] Sips Supply: agreed
[18:09] California Maverick: this is kind of crazy
[18:09] California Maverick: oh cool
[18:09] Winelife Forager: Feel like I'm playin' CounterStrike without the blood
[18:09] ElJefe Packbiers: its kind of hilarious
[18:09] You: man, this is confusing with 3 IM sessions going....
[18:09] ElJefe Packbiers: land lenn land
[18:09] Sips Supply: the hands typing is hilarious
[18:10] ElJefe Packbiers: use chat
[18:10] California Maverick: yeah, still missing your pants there marshy
[18:10] You: down, everyone, let's get started
[18:10] Lenndevours Cooke: Sorry guys...not too quick with the SL stuff
[18:10] You: everyone here
[18:10] ElJefe Packbiers: just say hello!
[18:10] ElJefe Packbiers: lol
[18:10] Sips Supply: hello
[18:10] ElJefe Packbiers: lenn - use the Chat button
[18:10] Hugo Cordeaux: hello
[18:10] California Maverick: whats up everyone
[18:11] Lenndevours Cooke: So who all do we have here
[18:11] ElJefe Packbiers: El Jefe of course
[18:11] Hugo Cordeaux: Hugo from The Oz Wine Show podcast
[18:11] You: OK, let's get going... thanks for coming here everyone to chat about Wine 2.0...
[18:11] Mudita Wilber: Lenndevours, can't thank you enough for using a name i can actually recognize ;-)
[18:11] Lenndevours Cooke: haha...my pleasure Mudita
[18:11] You: ...I thought Second Life would be a interesting way to do this
[18:12] Mudita Wilber: Got that right.
[18:12] Lenndevours Cooke: interesting is one way to say it
[18:12] Sips Supply: challenging's better
[18:12] Winelife Forager: we need to figure out who speaks
[18:12] You: not sure how best to get the discussion going, does anyone have something in mind or shall i start with some questions
[18:12] ElJefe Packbiers: go for it
[18:12] Winelife Forager: all you
[18:12] Mudita Wilber: What about going around with some introductions
[18:12] Winelife Forager: good idea
[18:12] California Maverick shouts: what happens when you shout
[18:12] You: great idea,
[18:13] Marshy Flossberg: i think people far away can hear you
[18:13] Lenndevours Cooke: I'll start...
[18:13] Marshy Flossberg: Get lost!
[18:13] You: so i'm tim from winecast
[18:13] Lenndevours Cooke: I'm Lenn Thompson...from LENNDEVOURS blog
[18:13] California Maverick: okay
[18:13] Sips Supply: I'm Rob from Vin Village
[18:13] Winelife Forager: Joel from Vivi's Wine Journal and Wine Life Today
[18:13] ElJefe Packbiers: i'm El Jefe - Jeff - from Twisted Oak Winery
[18:13] Hugo Cordeaux: Hugo from the Oz Wine Show podcast
[18:14] Lenndevours Cooke: Ah...Joel and Jeff...nice to "meet" you haha
[18:14] Mudita Wilber: I'm Joshua Zader from a blog called Mudita Journal ... nobody's heard of. But I'm working with Marshy Flossberg, here, on starting a new wine club with some serious Web 2.0 ambitions
[18:14] ElJefe Packbiers: good to "see" you
[18:14] California Maverick: cool mudita
[18:14] Marshy Flossberg: i'm Marshall Sontag, aka Marshy Flossberg
[18:14] You: i think that's everone
[18:14] Calben Gastel is Online
[18:14] RussianRiver Vallely is Online
[18:14] You: josh has just arrived
[18:15] You: it's his island
[18:15] Marshy Flossberg: hi Josh
[18:15] You: yo, josh!
[18:15] RussianRiver Vallely: Sorry about my late arrival
[18:15] ElJefe Packbiers: and he clearly knows how to fly...
[18:15] ElJefe Packbiers: hi josh
[18:15] Marshy Flossberg: josh, i hope you don't mind. i lost my pants.
[18:15] RussianRiver Vallely: lol
[18:15] RussianRiver Vallely: nice look
[18:15] You: no worries, we were just getting started
[18:15] ElJefe Packbiers: i think i mind...
[18:16] Sips Supply: cover those grapes
[18:16] Lenndevours Cooke: this place is ridiculous
[18:16] Marshy Flossberg: lol sips
[18:16] Lenndevours Cooke: so where's the vino let's get drinking
[18:16] Lenndevours Cooke: so where's the vino let's get drinking
[18:16] California Maverick: i think that would be best for all of us
[18:16] You: just go with it, lenn ;-)
[18:16] Mudita Wilber: seriously
[18:16] ElJefe Packbiers: got mine!
[18:16] RussianRiver Vallely: well
[18:16] Glass of Grenache whispers: Bottoms UP!
[18:16] Winelife Forager: OK Vino, kick it off buddy
[18:16] RussianRiver Vallely: I can show you some of the scripts we are working on.
[18:16] Sips Supply: Killikanoon is flowing nicely
[18:16] You: tres picos for me...
[18:17] You: where are those josh
[18:17] RussianRiver Vallely: up in tha air
[18:17] RussianRiver Vallely: gitta fly to them
[18:17] You: ha! let's talk about Web 2.0 and wine, etc. ... ah i guess not!
[18:18] RussianRiver Vallely: I belive page up makes you fly i n windows
[18:18] ElJefe Packbiers: which way
[18:18] California Maverick: what do you guys think about bottlenotes
[18:18] Winelife Forager: Like the concept
[18:18] Winelife Forager: haven't bought enough to see a "preference"
[18:19] You: will a "concept" be enough for a business
[18:19] Sips Supply: no
[18:19] ElJefe Packbiers: they havent come up on my radar
[18:19] Winelife Forager: no
[18:19] Sips Supply: need a hook
[18:19] RussianRiver Vallely: Which of you is Tim by the way
[18:19] Winelife Forager: vino
[18:19] You: will any of these web 2.0 sites gain critial mass outside of us geeks
[18:19] You: vino
[18:19] RussianRiver Vallely: gotcha
[18:19] Lenndevours Cooke: I doubt we'll see critical mass any time soon
[18:19] California Maverick: thats a good point tim
[18:19] You: the guy drinking here ;-)
[18:19] Sips Supply: not for a while
[18:19] Lenndevours Cooke: but, there are plenty of geeks out here
[18:19] California Maverick: i think thier on to something though
[18:20] ElJefe Packbiers: i think we may be surprised
[18:20] You: i've been struggling with what is the right combonation
[18:20] Hugo Cordeaux: Are you all consciously aimingy our sites at geeks
[18:20] Winelife Forager: I believe the right thing will attract enough users
[18:20] Lenndevours Cooke: Don't you think that MOST wine consumers are fine just picking up something at their local shop
[18:20] You: there are news sites, notes sites, some mashups...
[18:20] Tresora Stonewall is Offline
[18:20] California Maverick: people want to be recommended wine they are interested in though
[18:20] Sips Supply: too many sites and not enough hooks
[18:21] ElJefe Packbiers: most wine consumers dont HAVE a local shop...
[18:21] Lenndevours Cooke: who doesn't have a local shop
[18:21] Tresora Stonewall is Online
[18:21] Mudita Wilber: Good point, ElJefe.
[18:21] ElJefe Packbiers: me
[18:21] California Maverick: thats true jefe
[18:21] Lenndevours Cooke: I'm not sure that they care about the quality of the shop
[18:21] Lenndevours Cooke: none of my local shops for for a crap
[18:21] California Maverick: people who live out of the city
[18:21] Lenndevours Cooke: so I drive an hour to get to a good one
[18:21] ElJefe Packbiers: at some point you need to take the next step, and you go looking
[18:21] Winelife Forager: What if you had an online shop that interacts like this world.
[18:22] Winelife Forager: You can talk to a live person
[18:22] Lenndevours Cooke: I think that's pretty geek-focused...but could get the next generation of drinkers
[18:22] Sips Supply: too complicated for now
[18:22] Winelife Forager: for now sure
[18:22] Hugo Cordeaux: That would be years off for general population
[18:22] Winelife Forager: ok
[18:22] Winelife Forager: fair enough
[18:22] RussianRiver Vallely: millenials are the most tech savvy of all generation, theyve taken to wine like no other demo, and something like this is pretty natural to them. thats my demo
[18:22] You: i think that idea has some merit... more folks might be willing to ask for help online
[18:22] Lenndevours Cooke: is there really a demand for such a thing
[18:23] California Maverick: who knows if gen pop will ever actually yse web apps
[18:23] Lenndevours Cooke: I think you're right...people WOULD ask for help because of anonymity of it
[18:23] ElJefe Packbiers: frankly there are some web 1.0 sites that do a great job of advising the customer
[18:23] Sips Supply: 90+% for wine is still bought by women walking through the grocery store at dinner time
[18:23] ElJefe Packbiers: KLwines.com is where I guy, and they dont even sell my wine!
[18:23] ElJefe Packbiers: buy
[18:23] You: your going to sell your pinot to millenials, josh what about us boomers, do we get some too
[18:23] Hugo Cordeaux: what 1.0 siteas are those
[18:23] Lenndevours Cooke: exactly, Sips...that's the thing
[18:24] RussianRiver Vallely: The SL project's demo is Millenials. I think that was my point :)
[18:24] Sips Supply: need to expand the knowledge base first
[18:24] California Maverick: do you think you need quite a bit of information about the person to recommend something
[18:24] Calben Gastel is Offline
[18:24] Lenndevours Cooke: nah...I don't think you need that much info
[18:24] You: ah, missed that (man, I hope this thing keeps track of the chat)
[18:24] Winelife Forager: But with personal interaction you can make a live recommendation. Asking "I want something like Paul Hobbs 2002 Chard - that was great" then I can respond "Miner Wild Yeast Chard"
[18:24] Mudita Wilber: ditto, vino
[18:24] Sips Supply: no...just what they are having the wine with
[18:24] California Maverick: really
[18:24] ElJefe Packbiers: forager - thats cool
[18:25] Lenndevours Cooke: I think just a few basic questions can get you in tune with most consumers
[18:25] Lenndevours Cooke: but, I'm not a wine seller...so maybe I'm off base
[18:25] Winelife Forager: Thats what I mean, Try to capture the corner wine shop feel
[18:25] You: what i think might work is a wine club site that tunes itself to my preferences like netflix or amazon
[18:25] Winelife Forager: Thats Bottlenotes
[18:25] Lenndevours Cooke: hmmm...wine flix
[18:25] California Maverick: but that depends on the person being able to identify what they like
[18:25] ElJefe Packbiers: lol
[18:25] ElJefe Packbiers: but good
[18:25] Winelife Forager: Bottlenotes has NetFlix as investors
[18:25] Lenndevours Cooke: right...if someone just says "I like red wine"
[18:26] Winelife Forager: same engine
[18:26] California Maverick: most times people dont even know why they like a wine
[18:26] Winelife Forager: I talked to the CEO a while back
[18:26] California Maverick: yeah alyssa
[18:26] ElJefe Packbiers: no, i think they do
[18:26] California Maverick: shes cool
[18:26] Winelife Forager: yes
[18:26] You: no, i want to give ratings to each wine i get and the next month i get new wines based upon these ratings
[18:26] ElJefe Packbiers: they can hit on a key aspect - "it's peppery!" for example
[18:26] You: each month it gets better
[18:27] California Maverick: but then do they like peppery
[18:27] Sips Supply: need used collaboartion
[18:27] Lenndevours Cooke: What if you like a wide variety of wines
[18:27] Sips Supply: user
[18:27] Winelife Forager: Vino - I think thats what Bottlenotes
[18:27] Mudita Wilber: I think it may be hard for them to ever deliver on their promise, of delivering wines you like, when they're only collecting new data once a month
[18:27] Winelife Forager: is trying to do
[18:27] Lenndevours Cooke: I dont' want to end up drinking wines that fit the same profile all the time
[18:27] You: the i'd get a wide variety of wines as a result
[18:27] You: if i like just new york riesling, that's what i'd get
[18:27] California Maverick: interesting
[18:27] You: what other wine 2.0 models might work
[18:28] Lenndevours Cooke: but what if I like Virginia Viognier too
[18:28] Sips Supply: that's why we match with food which is seasoanl
[18:28] California Maverick: you have do alot of information collection
[18:28] You: what about social promotion of news for example
[18:28] Winelife Forager: The problem with preference engines is that there needs to be a limited set of things - either wines, descriptions, or something
[18:28] Tresora Stonewall: digg
[18:28] Winelife Forager: scratch my thought
[18:28] You: yea, like digg for wine; joel has built this
[18:28] You: Wine Life Today
[18:29] California Maverick: yeah joel!
[18:29] Winelife Forager: I was putting that into play with ...
[18:29] Winelife Forager: slow fingers here
[18:29] Sips Supply: I have a new concept which is about to launch that addresses much of what we are discussing
[18:29] ElJefe Packbiers: do tell
[18:29] Sips Supply: and it has a hook
[18:29] Winelife Forager: pls
[18:29] Lenndevours Cooke: Spill it...we'll all sign virtual NDA ;)
[18:29] California Maverick: i wish we could talk to our friends on WLT
[18:29] Mudita Wilber: Love to hear about your plans, Sips
[18:29] Winelife Forager: lets hear it - need Beta testers
[18:29] RussianRiver Vallely: /is all ears
[18:29] Sips Supply: I can't at the moment but all of you can be a part of it
[18:29] Winelife Forager: I'm the owner/operator/programmer for WLT
[18:29] Mudita Wilber: WLT
[18:30] Winelife Forager: Wine Life Today
[18:30] Mudita Wilber: Sorry, figured that as soon as i asked...
[18:30] Sips Supply: we need to talk
[18:30] Winelife Forager: I'm all ears
[18:30] Mudita Wilber: Sips, care to fill us in on your plans
[18:30] Mudita Wilber: sounds like yo'uve got a captive audience
[18:30] California Maverick: joel, when do you think digg hit critical mass
[18:30] Sips Supply: I can
[18:30] Calben Gastel is Online
[18:30] Sips Supply: I can
[18:30] California Maverick: like with how many users
[18:30] Lenndevours Cooke: had Digg hit critical mass
[18:30] Sips Supply: sorry
[18:30] Sips Supply: it's the grenache
[18:30] RussianRiver Vallely: Hey Lenn, how has that book you were writing tasting notes for coming
[18:31] Lenndevours Cooke: I think it depends on how you define critical mass, no
[18:31] Mudita Wilber: Can I make a motion I'd move that we let Sips hold the floor for a moment, to tell us about his project.
[18:31] Lenndevours Cooke: Book will be out next summer
[18:31] You: for tech digg has, but it took them 18 months
[18:31] RussianRiver Vallely: good times
[18:31] Lenndevours Cooke: yeah...not bad not bad
[18:31] You: seconded
[18:31] Lenndevours Cooke: done
[18:31] Mudita Wilber: All in favor
[18:31] Lenndevours Cooke: aye
[18:31] Sips Supply: I can't make it public but it addresses this whole topic and I need advisors
[18:31] Hugo Cordeaux: i
[18:31] You: aye
[18:31] Mudita Wilber: Ohhh, ok.
[18:31] Lenndevours Cooke: ah...so much for giving the floor
[18:31] Tresora Stonewall: oh
[18:31] ElJefe Packbiers: let me know what I can do
[18:31] Mudita Wilber: sorry, thought you were ready to spill.
[18:31] ElJefe Packbiers: greanache has this effect
[18:31] You: i'm live blogging this now ;-)
[18:31] Lenndevours Cooke: I think we can all agree that we'd love to help you out in any way possible
[18:32] You: that was a joke BTW
[18:32] ElJefe Packbiers: is why i suggested it
[18:32] ElJefe Packbiers: even if i cant spell it
[18:32] Lenndevours Cooke: not doing a live podcast ;)
[18:32] Mudita Wilber: Vino, you're evil ;-)
[18:32] You: very funny lenn
[18:32] ElJefe Packbiers: lol
[18:32] Mudita Wilber: Well, sips, i think you've got a room full of potential advisors, here.
[18:32] Sips Supply: you are all in the heart of making my plan HUGE
[18:32] Sips Supply: palns
[18:32] You: they seriously need to mesh this with Skype
[18:32] Mudita Wilber: Tell us how we can help, Sips.
[18:32] Sips Supply: plans
[18:33] Lenndevours Cooke: I need to get Skype working...haven't picked up the mic yet
[18:33] Winelife Forager: tease
[18:33] Lenndevours Cooke: might be the only way I get to make it onto Winecast
[18:33] Lenndevours Cooke: it's hard to get on there these days
[18:33] RussianRiver Vallely: heh
[18:33] You: joel is shipping now
[18:33] You: how's the traffic at WLT
[18:33] Mudita Wilber: I see Vino found the wine glasses...
[18:34] You: yep, want one
[18:34] Winelife Forager: Traffic is OK
[18:34] Sips Supply: I need collaborators which will help organically grow my concept
[18:34] ElJefe Packbiers: por favor
[18:34] Mudita Wilber: Now he gets to type with a wine glass in his hand ... check it out!
[18:34] Tresora Stonewall: i'll take one!
[18:34] Marshy Flossberg: i want a wine glass
[18:34] Winelife Forager: I've been mostly testing with a few hardcore folks
[18:34] ElJefe Packbiers: Sips - you know where to find me
[18:34] RussianRiver Vallely: Sips, I'm lost. What is your project or havent you said
[18:34] California Maverick: how do you guys think we get the general public to interact more with our sites
[18:34] Sips Supply: agreed
[18:34] Lenndevours Cooke: what does everyone think about bloggers partnering with wine shops to sell blogger-chosen wines (obviously a question close to my heart)
[18:34] Winelife Forager: even then, somehow almost 100 people signed up
[18:34] ElJefe Packbiers: warning - I used to be a programmer...:)
[18:34] You: i think we are all hardcore here ;-)
[18:35] Mudita Wilber: Lenn, we lost your question pretty fast, there
[18:35] ElJefe Packbiers: lenn - full disclosure is a must
[18:35] You: let me see how i can give you the wine glass
[18:35] Sips Supply: no, I'm fairly mainstream with a nasty (great) wine habit
[18:35] Lenndevours Cooke: Full disclosure Like what the blogger's stake is
[18:35] ElJefe Packbiers: yes
[18:35] Lenndevours Cooke: Okay
[18:35] Tresora Stonewall: absolutely
[18:35] Sips Supply: who lives where
[18:35] Lenndevours Cooke: This is a self-serving discussion...but let me tell you what I just announced today
[18:35] Calben Gastel is Offline
[18:36] Lenndevours Cooke: I just got a new sponsor for my site. An NYC wine shop
[18:36] Sips Supply: pls
[18:36] ElJefe Packbiers: congrats
[18:36] Lenndevours Cooke: in addition to the sponsorship, we're starting a new Lenn Thompson's New York Wine Club
[18:36] Lenndevours Cooke: every month I pick a wine or two
[18:36] ElJefe Packbiers: even better
[18:36] Sips Supply: the hook
[18:36] Lenndevours Cooke: they offer it as a special pack to readers...either by the month or you can join and get it auto every month
[18:36] Hugo Cordeaux: did they have any probs with the global reach of your site Lenn
[18:37] ElJefe Packbiers: vino you're spilling
[18:37] Lenndevours Cooke: well, they can't ship to EVERY state
[18:37] Sips Supply: greanache\\\\
[18:37] You: great idea; hope i can start the Winecast club too, with one of these Web 2.0 sites (hint, hint)
[18:37] Lenndevours Cooke: and I don't know about the international shipping
[18:37] Lenndevours Cooke: but I do know that I have a ton of U.S. readers who enjoy my site...but can't get their hands on NY wines
[18:37] Sips Supply: vino we need to talk also
[18:37] Lenndevours Cooke: but...for full disclosure...I'm not making a cent from teh sales or club memberships. Just the ad space
[18:38] ElJefe Packbiers: so say that
[18:38] Sips Supply: need traffic and that will help[
[18:38] Winelife Forager: money on the table bro
[18:38] Lenndevours Cooke: I think it's a cool thing...and I'd like to get more things like that going in our 'community'
[18:38] Lenndevours Cooke: of course there is money on the table
[18:38] ElJefe Packbiers: it's important to your credibility that your readers know where you stand
[18:38] RussianRiver Vallely: Transparency is key, I agree
[18:38] Lenndevours Cooke: I sold her ad space just like any other sponsor...and this partnership grew out of it
[18:38] Sips Supply: wine can't always just be a hobby
[18:38] You: as long as there is full disclosure, there shouldn't be a conflict
[18:39] Lenndevours Cooke: it's really two separate projects
[18:39] ElJefe Packbiers: tell me about it LOL
[18:39] You: josh, how do you give stuff away on SL
[18:39] Lenndevours Cooke: And if anyone thinks I'm a shill...just know that I've turned down at least 4 local wineries who wanted to advertise on my site
[18:39] Lenndevours Cooke: haha
[18:39] RussianRiver Vallely: drag the item from your inventory to the avatar
[18:40] You: done
[18:40] Lenndevours Cooke: Changing gears...were any of you involved in any of the "wine blog league/consortium" discussions from a year or so ago
[18:40] Marshy Flossberg: drag it to me
[18:40] You: if someone wants this wine glass, just grab it
[18:41] ElJefe Packbiers: b4 my time
[18:41] Mudita Wilber: heh, easier said than done
[18:41] RussianRiver Vallely: or you can fly up and grab a bottle of Capozzi pinot
[18:41] ElJefe Packbiers: would love to
[18:41] ElJefe Packbiers: oh!
[18:41] Tresora Stonewall: physc
[18:41] Winelife Forager: so
[18:42] Hugo Cordeaux: tim, while you're here, your comments were broken earlier
[18:42] Winelife Forager: any other wine 2.0 thoughts
[18:42] You: which ones
[18:42] Hugo Cordeaux: could not get through to an individual post
[18:42] Lenndevours Cooke: Tim, I guess you coudln't get Mr. Wark here He would have been good for this dicussion I think
[18:42] California Maverick: what about social bookmarking for wines and wineries
[18:42] You: agreed on tom; will get him next time...
[18:43] You: yea, sips
[18:43] Marshy Flossberg: settle down sips
[18:43] Lenndevours Cooke: I think social bookmarking for the masses is still kinda far off. We're implementing it at my day job (software marketing) and I think adoption is going to be pretty slow
[18:43] RussianRiver Vallely: Maverick - are there enough wine folks online to make socail bookmarking work.
[18:43] Sips Supply: just trying some wine
[18:43] Lenndevours Cooke: and are the people who ARE online the right ones
[18:43] California Maverick: i dont know
[18:43] Hugo Cordeaux: is ther enough content for social bookmarking
[18:43] You: social bookmarking makes sense for wine reviews, like what cork'd has done
[18:43] Lenndevours Cooke: I don't know about you guys...but I can barely go on eRob...
[18:43] California Maverick: it seems like a lot of the techies love wine though
[18:44] California Maverick: and people are used to bookmarking
[18:44] RussianRiver Vallely: I agree Mav, but they spend their time digging tech articles, not wine ones
[18:44] You: i don't go on eBob, i read the rss feeds and jump in when i see something interesting
[18:44] You: i think rss is key to wine 2.0
[18:44] California Maverick: the delicious or magnolia aspect might work if it were presenting in a usable way
[18:44] Lenndevours Cooke: I do all my blog reading via RSS now
[18:44] Sips Supply: how many bookmarks do you have that you never return to
[18:44] RussianRiver Vallely: so many Sipps
[18:45] California Maverick: thats true
[18:45] You: many
[18:45] Winelife Forager: many
[18:45] Marshy Flossberg: all of them :)
[18:45] Lenndevours Cooke: right..it's too easy to bookmark and never go back
[18:45] Sips Supply: ditoo
[18:45] Sips Supply: ditto
[18:45] Mudita Wilber: Also, what would you gain from a social bookmarking site that you can't get at del.icio.us
[18:45] Hugo Cordeaux: i think the wine world is still short of content
[18:45] ElJefe Packbiers: I forget the details of the stat... but it has been claimed that 90%+ of the wine buying public is online in some form
[18:45] Tresora Stonewall: but how many times have you wanted an old bookmark later
[18:45] ElJefe Packbiers: probably mostly email, but still...
[18:45] Lenndevours Cooke: Hugo...an excellent point
[18:45] You: true but it's a way to build community and help filter the millions of choices
[18:45] RussianRiver Vallely: not sure Jefe
[18:45] Tresora Stonewall: filter how
[18:45] Sips Supply: what cities do you all live in
[18:45] California Maverick: thats ture vino
[18:46] Winelife Forager: san Jose
[18:46] Mudita Wilber: I live in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
[18:46] Lenndevours Cooke: I'm on Long Island, outside of New York City
[18:46] Marshy Flossberg: Orlando, FL
[18:46] Tresora Stonewall: el dorado hills, ca
[18:46] You: by filter, i mean direct attention...
[18:46] Winelife Forager: San Jose,CA
[18:46] California Maverick: im in lafayette ca
[18:46] Sips Supply: San Diego here
[18:46] Marshy Flossberg: i'm sitting here with Mickey Mouse
[18:46] Hugo Cordeaux: Sydney, Australia
[18:46] ElJefe Packbiers: Murphys, Calaveras County, Calif.
[18:46] RussianRiver Vallely: Forestville CA
[18:46] You: ...for example, if i see a lot of bookmarks for a specific wine, i'll pick it up to try
[18:46] Lenndevours Cooke: Damn...I'm the lone East Coast rep
[18:46] Winelife Forager: During the day job Hugo
[18:46] Sips Supply: I need collaborators in all for those area
[18:46] ElJefe Packbiers: sitting with the Mouse with your pants off
[18:46] Sips Supply: areas
[18:47] You: oh, sorry; i live in Minneapolis
[18:47] California Maverick: vino, you hit the nail on the head
[18:47] Lenndevours Cooke: Sips...we're all in...just let us know :)
[18:47] Mudita Wilber: Hope Mickey doesn't like grapes
[18:47] Marshy Flossberg: hey i put pants on
[18:47] Winelife Forager: Sips, you're a tease
[18:47] ElJefe Packbiers: vino - find Twisted
[18:47] Marshy Flossberg: overactive imagination eljefe
[18:47] ElJefe Packbiers: lol
[18:47] California Maverick: i think other people think that way too
[18:47] Lenndevours Cooke: Twisted makes a mighty good vioginer
[18:47] You: nope, still looking el jefe
[18:47] Tresora Stonewall: dont' start with the rubber chicken bits...
[18:47] Lenndevours Cooke: but of course twisted can't ship to NEW YORK yet
[18:47] Sips Supply: no..you've all just validated what I've been working on for 3 years
[18:47] ElJefe Packbiers: poo
[18:47] RussianRiver Vallely: lol
[18:48] ElJefe Packbiers: lenn - soon, very soon
[18:48] Tresora Stonewall: ha!
[18:48] Lenndevours Cooke: so you say...so you say
[18:48] You: any other thoughts on wine 2.0
[18:48] Tresora Stonewall: what about microformats
[18:48] Mudita Wilber: Vino...
[18:48] RussianRiver Vallely: Bengals flea flicker touchdown
[18:48] Lenndevours Cooke: How many of you have sold or bought wine via RadCru or woot
[18:48] Sips Supply: not meaning to tease but a plan in a closet...is well, a plan in a closet
[18:48] You: yes, mudita
[18:48] Mudita Wilber: to your point, I'd be interested to hear what people find most VALUABLE about Wine 2.0
[18:48] California Maverick: what do you guys think about using widgits
[18:48] ElJefe Packbiers: I have bought via radcru
[18:49] Lenndevours Cooke: I have too
[18:49] Hugo Cordeaux: what the best business model for social site Anything other than ads
[18:49] Mudita Wilber: What is it about Wine 2.0 that gets you juiced up so to speak
[18:49] You: widgets are great
[18:49] ElJefe Packbiers: I am SELLING via radcru starting MONDAY
[18:49] California Maverick: i think they can provide value if you use them the right way
[18:49] Winelife Forager: Nope on RadCru
[18:49] Tresora Stonewall: what kind of widgets
[18:49] Marshy Flossberg: mac widgets
[18:49] Lenndevours Cooke: Not to New yorkers Jeff ;)
[18:49] RussianRiver Vallely: Nice Jeff. Whats your special offer
[18:49] California Maverick: like flickr api, google maps etc
[18:49] ElJefe Packbiers: Im doing the best I can :)
[18:49] Tresora Stonewall: maskups
[18:49] You: sidebar widgets, dashboard widgets, all of them
[18:50] RussianRiver Vallely: free shipping
[18:50] California Maverick: bybloglog widgets
[18:50] Lenndevours Cooke: eh...I think they are "cool" but I don't see a lot of value add there
[18:50] Tresora Stonewall: wine search widget
[18:50] Sips Supply: I love the flying fingers
[18:50] ElJefe Packbiers: We're offering the 2004 Tempranillo, 3 pack
[18:50] You: to your questions about wine 2.0 and "what's the point"...
[18:50] Sips Supply: why are we here
[18:50] Tresora Stonewall: sip
[18:50] Winelife Forager: Wine 2.0 - interacting with others that help me discover new stuff
[18:50] Lenndevours Cooke: the point is that it's something new...with lots of potential
[18:50] ElJefe Packbiers: widgets are toys
[18:50] You: ...i think that we are at the beginning of a major shift in how wine is sold
[18:50] Sips Supply: bingo
[18:50] ElJefe Packbiers: so far
[18:50] Lenndevours Cooke: you think so, Tim
[18:50] Lenndevours Cooke: how so
[18:50] You: and the relationships wineries can have with consumers
[18:50] Tresora Stonewall: you've gotta start somwhere
[18:51] Lenndevours Cooke: I think the relationship part of what ou're saying is true...but sales are still sales
[18:51] Marshy Flossberg: interesting thought, vino
[18:51] Hugo Cordeaux: in Oz, mosst wineries aren't so tech savvy!!
[18:51] RussianRiver Vallely: If we had wine to sell right now, what I would offer is a three month subscription to greendomes. They stop all your junk mail and plant a tree for every month you are a member.
[18:51] Sips Supply: its beyond that, but your heading there
[18:51] Tresora Stonewall: so ill try again. what about semantic web any takers
[18:51] Winelife Forager: Yes, tim - you have the potential to really learn customers and what they want and are doing in real time.
[18:51] Mudita Wilber: Yeah, Vino, i agree with you about the value of relationship between wineries and consumers
[18:51] You: i don't have to go to CA and taste Twisted Oak or Capozzi to want to buy it becasue of the online relationship via blogs, etc.
[18:51] RussianRiver Vallely: *greendimes rather
[18:51] ElJefe Packbiers: vino - bingo
[18:52] Lenndevours Cooke: Again...aren't these relationship that this group is talking about pretty geek-focused
[18:52] You: man, i missed a bunch typing those last bits
[18:52] California Maverick: also it sorts out information for people
[18:52] Winelife Forager: not really
[18:52] Winelife Forager: lenn
[18:52] ElJefe Packbiers: I think I made the point b4 - you are selling wine, but you are also selling an IDEA behind the wine
[18:52] Lenndevours Cooke: my mom and dad aren't going to start buying wine any differently
[18:52] You: no, not geeky when rss gets integrated everywhere
[18:52] Sips Supply: exactly
[18:52] Lenndevours Cooke: when...that's key
[18:52] Winelife Forager: Its not your father's oldsmobile, certainly, but this is the lanuage today
[18:52] You: then you mom will find out how famous you are, lenn ;-)
[18:52] Lenndevours Cooke: we're all early adopters people
[18:52] Mudita Wilber: Everything on the internet starts out geeky ... until it becomes mainstream.
[18:52] Marshy Flossberg: mom and dad use Amazon now
[18:52] ElJefe Packbiers: lenn - roger that'
[18:52] Tresora Stonewall: it's getting there. it's just now showing up in browsers.
[18:53] Lenndevours Cooke: haha...i'm only famous in my own mind
[18:53] Hugo Cordeaux: that's all that counts Lenn
[18:53] Hugo Cordeaux: ;)
[18:53] ElJefe Packbiers: still not clear myself on how rss in browsers is going to save the world
[18:53] Sips Supply: only 2% of wine drinkers buy 95% of the wine over $20
[18:53] Marshy Flossberg: here, here, el jefe
[18:53] RussianRiver Vallely: not sure thats acurate Sips
[18:53] You: wow, thats an interesting stat
[18:53] California Maverick: i think web 2.0 is going to make it easier to advertise to your target market
[18:53] Sips Supply: it's close
[18:54] Mudita Wilber: i think sips is on target with that stat ... matches my own market research
[18:54] Lenndevours Cooke: How is it going to help you segment better
[18:54] Mudita Wilber: but
[18:54] ElJefe Packbiers: advertise
[18:54] You: but advertising is changing
[18:54] Winelife Forager: Mav - that is very true
[18:54] Tresora Stonewall: makes margins all that more important
[18:54] California Maverick: there is just way more information about people preferences now
[18:54] Sips Supply: what does wine do that no other food or beverage do
[18:54] You: it's about content now, not brand or hocus pocus
[18:54] Mudita Wilber: premium wines are a small percent of the wine market
[18:54] Mudita Wilber: but they're a huge percent of the ONLINE wine market
[18:54] Winelife Forager: Create a community
[18:54] Winelife Forager: Sips
[18:54] ElJefe Packbiers: give you a buzz
[18:54] Mudita Wilber: because they're worth looking for
[18:54] Lenndevours Cooke: at my job, my boss' boss just wanted to do Web 2.0 becuase it's "hot"...he throws out "community" all the time...but doesn't know what it means
[18:54] Sips Supply: brings people togther
[18:55] Winelife Forager: amen
[18:55] Tresora Stonewall: people need help figuring our wine
[18:55] Sips Supply: I ask again...why are we here
[18:55] Sips Supply:
[18:55] Tresora Stonewall: er, figuring out wine. grenache is kicking in!
[18:55] ElJefe Packbiers: thassshhh rite!
[18:55] Marshy Flossberg: are there any retail wine sites that integrate a strong collaborative component
[18:55] You: because we are trying to figure this web 2.0 thing out and not all of us live in San Francisco ;-)
[18:56] Sips Supply: some try
[18:56] Lenndevours Cooke: I don't think many retail sites do it for shit
[18:56] Mudita Wilber: Lenn, i agree with you
[18:56] Lenndevours Cooke: I mean...does everyone's favorite, wine.com do anything
[18:56] California Maverick: whats the deal with rating wine on 2.0 sites
[18:56] Sips Supply: we all can be a core to a new movement
[18:56] Mudita Wilber: can you imagin how powerful it would be if Wine.com understood the power of 2.0
[18:56] Winelife Forager: Is there an opportunity to create a Wine 2.0 social engine that can host wineries - leverage our knowelege
[18:56] California Maverick: does a normal person have the ability to rate a wine
[18:57] ElJefe Packbiers: is wine.com relevant
[18:57] Tresora Stonewall: absolutely!
[18:57] Winelife Forager: Create communities for people who don't know how
[18:57] Lenndevours Cooke: Wine ratings are a whole other disucssion
[18:57] You: ratings are a way to connect communities of wine lovers together on something all of them can relate to
[18:57] Lenndevours Cooke: but sure...even if it's jsut "I like it" or "I don't like it"
[18:57] Lenndevours Cooke: that's a wine rating for that person
[18:57] RussianRiver Vallely: wine.com just got another 9 mil in funding who knows what they'll do with it
[18:57] Winelife Forager: Wine.com is irrelevant
[18:57] ElJefe Packbiers: I have been buying stuff from amazon for years - partly based on consumer reviews
[18:57] Sips Supply: correct
[18:57] Lenndevours Cooke: how can people pump money into that place
[18:57] Hugo Cordeaux: true forager
[18:57] You: then you can normalize the scores and put the data into a recommendation system
[18:57] Sips Supply: not me too expensive
[18:57] Tresora Stonewall: how else will people build a wine vocab if the don't rate and describe
[18:57] ElJefe Packbiers: A thoughtful review is evident from reading it
[18:58] Mudita Wilber: Good point, Vino!
[18:58] Winelife Forager: I wish I knew who their investor were so I can get a piece of that
[18:58] Lenndevours Cooke: there is a big difference between buying a TV from amazon and buying wine
[18:58] ElJefe Packbiers: wine can benefit from the same sort of thing
[18:58] Mudita Wilber: I think Vino just hit the nail on the head
[18:58] Marshy Flossberg: Len, not if you read a review
[18:58] ElJefe Packbiers: lenn - I don't think so
[18:58] You: that's were microformats come in; the ol' 5 star ratings
[18:58] Lenndevours Cooke: with a TV or whatever...if something is put together poorly and cracks...that's an absolute
[18:58] Winelife Forager: Vino - I have thought about that very thing problem is there are too many wines
[18:58] Tresora Stonewall: what about reviews from people your "trust"
[18:58] Winelife Forager: That would require too many ratings to normalise
[18:58] Lenndevours Cooke: that's where i was going Tresora
[18:58] ElJefe Packbiers: a review that explains why they like (fill in the blank) can be very helpful
[18:58] RussianRiver Vallely: Agreed tresora
[18:58] You: i'm trying to get the 100 point scale into microformats for my site now
[18:58] Lenndevours Cooke: You show me ANY wine
[18:59] Lenndevours Cooke: and I'll show you someone who will like it
[18:59] Sips Supply: there are not too many wine...just not enough time
[18:59] You: how about this concept...
[18:59] Tresora Stonewall: unless it's easy for people to review and rate
[18:59] Lenndevours Cooke: so if you see three 5 star ratings about some syrupy sweet Niagra from the Hudson Valley...if you don't trust those palates...
[18:59] ElJefe Packbiers: when they explain WHY they like it, I learn something
[18:59] You: a wine 2.0 site that calibrates palates and recommends wines
[18:59] Winelife Forager: True dat Sips
[19:00] California Maverick: how vino
[19:00] You: the idea would be everyone divides and shares ratings
[19:00] Hugo Cordeaux: that's what i awas thinking tim
[19:00] Lenndevours Cooke: I think a large-scale thing like that is hard
[19:00] Winelife Forager: Lenn
[19:00] Winelife Forager: precisely
[19:00] ElJefe Packbiers: lenn - it's more like a novel not a TV
[19:00] You: so i'm not rating the same wines lenn is or hugo
[19:00] Lenndevours Cooke: I know that with my own lil blog with my own lil reach...I have readers who buy wine based on what I write. But that's because they have read my stuff for a while and interacted with me
[19:00] Winelife Forager: Like Amazon.com and books - Millions of users and not many relevant ratings
[19:00] You: right, joel, exactly
[19:01] Tresora Stonewall: so tasting note aggregation then
[19:01] Sips Supply: many sites have user ratings
[19:01] California Maverick: i dont think this whole ratings and tasting tags thing is going to catch on until people have a reason to do it
[19:01] ElJefe Packbiers: it's not about the stars
[19:01] Lenndevours Cooke: Because I have to raise the question
[19:01] You: out of the thousands of wines on the market, i'd like to only pick up the good ones
[19:01] California Maverick: it just doesnt seem to provide value
[19:01] Lenndevours Cooke: if you leav eit open...what's to keep wineries from stuffing the ballot box
[19:01] Hugo Cordeaux: the whole thing about 2.0 is being smart and making the digitallworld connesct peop. it has to be possible to connect similar pallettes
[19:01] ElJefe Packbiers: it is about why the book made them laugh, cry, what they learned
[19:01] Tresora Stonewall: and avoid the bad ones, right
[19:01] RussianRiver Vallely: by the way if you cIick your history button you can read text that has flown past you
[19:01] You: right now, i do this by reading a lot of sites and newsletters
[19:01] Lenndevours Cooke: I mean...jeff COULD do a pile of 'reviews' of his own wines
[19:02] Lenndevours Cooke: no
[19:02] Hugo Cordeaux: the whole thing about 2.0 is being smart and making the digitallworld connesct peop. it has to be possible to connect similar pallettes
[19:02] Winelife Forager: good 2.0 sites allow the community to regulate what goes in
[19:02] ElJefe Packbiers: i could - and I believe it happens on amazon with books
[19:02] Tresora Stonewall: and gravitate to what they like/prefer
[19:02] ElJefe Packbiers: like with anything else, you have to read and decide the veracity of it
[19:02] ElJefe Packbiers: yourself
[19:03] You: is anyone else working with microformats
[19:03] Mudita Wilber: what are microformats
[19:03] Lenndevours Cooke: It definitely happens with books Jef
[19:03] Tresora Stonewall: besides scrugy, you mean
[19:03] ElJefe Packbiers: and it will happen with wine reviews
[19:03] You: yea, james was going to show here
[19:03] Winelife Forager: It happens with books because there are MILLIONS of Amazon users
[19:03] ElJefe Packbiers: fortuneately, people are clumsy
[19:03] You: cork'd uses MF for their reviews
[19:03] Sips Supply: I need to go get more grenache brb
[19:03] Winelife Forager: law of large numbers
[19:03] ElJefe Packbiers: lol
[19:04] You: basically microformats are ways to structure data in ways bots can harvest and then put together
[19:04] RussianRiver Vallely: For those building wine/web 2.0 sies: how do you plan on building trafic
[19:04] You: the hReview format is the one i'm working with and cork'd has implemented
[19:04] ElJefe Packbiers: brb
[19:05] Tresora Stonewall: wineries can also microformat their location (geo) and wine releases.
[19:05] California Maverick: i think the best way to build traffic is through designing your service so that the blogosphere writes aboutit
[19:05] Winelife Forager: I've gotta put the baby to sleep. This was great for me. Sips et al - you can reach me at jc@juicecowboy.com. TTYL
[19:05] Lenndevours Cooke: I'm still waiting for NY wineries to wake up and get on the internet WELL
[19:05] Winelife Forager: p.s.- I agree with Mav - get the community involved
[19:05] ElJefe Packbiers: back
[19:05] You: see ya, joel
[19:05] California Maverick: later joel
[19:05] RussianRiver Vallely: Night Joel
[19:05] Sips Supply: bye
[19:06] Sips Supply: joe;
[19:06] Sips Supply: jeo;
[19:06] Sips Supply: joel
[19:06] Winelife Forager: too much wine Sips
[19:06] Mudita Wilber: Folks, Marshy and I are in a similar situation to what Sips described ... in that we have a concept for a new (serious) Wine 2.0 endeavor
[19:06] Mudita Wilber: but, we've got a concept completed :-)
[19:06] Mudita Wilber: we're about a week away from launching our site
[19:06] Sips Supply: no, been up since 4AM
[19:06] ElJefe Packbiers: ta
[19:06] California Maverick: whats your site mudita
[19:06] You: bye el jefe
[19:06] Hugo Cordeaux: that' close enough to tell Mud
[19:07] Winelife Forager: Mudita - you got me for 2 minutes more if you spill the beans
[19:07] You: i'd be interested to check the site out, etc.
[19:07] Mudita Wilber: CA Mav, our site is called WineQ
[19:07] Mudita Wilber: short version:
[19:07] ElJefe Packbiers: no that was ta to joel
[19:07] Mudita Wilber: We let you queue up wines like movies, read reviews from other consumers before you buy, and get free shipping on orders of $35 or more
[19:07] ElJefe Packbiers: im staying
[19:07] Mudita Wilber: All our wines are shipped winery direct
[19:07] Sips Supply: we need to talk also
[19:08] RussianRiver Vallely: interesting - do you have a large inventory How do you fulfill orders
[19:08] Lenndevours Cooke: Guys...I need to tend to a website I'm launching tomorrow...gotta jet. I'd love to help any of the new sites out...so just shoot me an email lenndevours@gmail.com
[19:08] California Maverick: are the wines user generated
[19:08] You: can i mix and match wines from different wineries
[19:08] Mudita Wilber: Vino, yes
[19:08] ElJefe Packbiers: see ya lenn, was nice
[19:08] Mudita Wilber: you can mix and match from different wineries
[19:08] Sips Supply: bye Lenn
[19:08] RussianRiver Vallely: night Lenn
[19:08] Lenndevours Cooke: definitely...let's do it again folks
[19:08] Mudita Wilber: we built that into the business model
[19:08] Marshy Flossberg: don't forget ratings and user profiles!
[19:08] You: later lenn
[19:08] Mudita Wilber: Take care Lenn
[19:08] Lenndevours Cooke is Offline
[19:08] Winelife Forager: Free shipping over $35 thats all I need to hear
[19:08] Mudita Wilber: And, as Marsh pointed out, we also have user ratings (together with the reviews) and user profiles for our members
[19:09] Tresora Stonewall: kid duty. i'm out. thanks for the idea, vinoe.
[19:09] You: can i set an amount for each monthly shippment, say $75 or less
[19:09] Tresora Stonewall is Offline
[19:09] Mudita Wilber: Vino - Yes
[19:09] Mudita Wilber: You get to choose how many bottles
[19:09] Mudita Wilber: it's oriented toward quantity rather than price ... but you can choose whatever priced wines you want
[19:09] Sips Supply: wineq.com
[19:09] RussianRiver Vallely: Im curious about inventory Mud- hows the selection
[19:09] Mudita Wilber: Now, in the beginning, our selection is fairly modest ... we're working with about 7 small wineries right now
[19:10] You: ext week it will be live so i can check it out
[19:10] Mudita Wilber: with plans to add new wineries each month for members to choose from
[19:10] Hugo Cordeaux: can we have an invitation to ineq.cm
[19:10] Sips Supply: yes, can we
[19:10] You: me too
[19:10] Mudita Wilber: Yes, we'd love to have you beta test for us
[19:10] Hugo Cordeaux: cheers thatt o
[19:10] ElJefe Packbiers: i'll give it a try - also contact me about the selling side pse
[19:11] You: great,
[19:11] Mudita Wilber: If you're interested in beta testing, please send me an e-mail to joshua@wineq.com
[19:11] You: see ya hugo
[19:11] You: cheers!
[19:11] Mudita Wilber: and include your blog URL
[19:11] ElJefe Packbiers: bye hugo
[19:11] You: will do
[19:11] Sips Supply: you all can reach me at BarnettRob@yahoo.com or tel 858-566-3344
[19:11] Hugo Cordeaux: sorry, i'm not going
[19:11] California Maverick: cool, later sips
[19:11] Mudita Wilber: ElJefe ... you asked about the selling side
[19:11] Mudita Wilber: You're with a winery
[19:12] Sips Supply: I;m not leaving yet, just didn;t want to forget
[19:12] Winelife Forager: Thanks all, now I'm going for real. Mudita - sounds cool. I'll ping you.
[19:12] Winelife Forager: by for real
[19:12] Mudita Wilber: Awesome, by Winelife
[19:12] RussianRiver Vallely: night
[19:12] ElJefe Packbiers: tata joel
[19:12] Marshy Flossberg: bye Winelife!
[19:12] Sips Supply: maybe next time we should do a FreeConference
[19:13] You: thanks for the island use, josh
[19:13] Sips Supply: see ya Joel
[19:13] Winelife Forager is Offline
[19:13] RussianRiver Vallely: sure thing
[19:13] California Maverick: yeah, thanks josh
[19:13] Sips Supply: josh
[19:13] You: great idea, sometime after the first of the year or in Dec
[19:13] Sips Supply: yes
[19:13] Mudita Wilber: HEY
[19:13] Sips Supply: vino what
[19:13] Sips Supply: your email
[19:14] California Maverick: alright guys, have a good evening
[19:14] Mudita Wilber: Anyone interested in a e-mail discussion forum dedictated to this topic
[19:14] ElJefe Packbiers: u2
[19:14] California Maverick: thanks for talking
[19:14] Mudita Wilber: a Wine 2.0 e-mail discussion forum
[19:14] ElJefe Packbiers: mudita - yes
[19:14] Mudita Wilber: or is e-mail discussion too 20th century
[19:14] California Maverick is Offline
[19:14] Mudita Wilber: I tend to prefer e-mail because it's a ... familiar environment
[19:14] ElJefe Packbiers: lol get over it
[19:14] You: it was suggested we have a followup session, but in a conference call format; i agreed that might be better than this, so i was wondering when would be good, Dec or Jan
[19:14] Mudita Wilber: also, you get to think a bit more as you're typing
[19:14] Marshy Flossberg: I think thats a great idea
[19:14] Mudita Wilber: I'm game for Dec, Vino
[19:15] ElJefe Packbiers: mudita - set up a google group
[19:15] Sips Supply: same same
[19:15] RussianRiver Vallely: a conference call with 12 people would be...crazy
[19:15] Mudita Wilber: OK, i'll set up a google group
[19:15] Mudita Wilber: e-mail me at joshua@wineq.com if you'd like an invitation
[19:15] You: better idea
[19:15] ElJefe Packbiers: call would need a moderator
[19:15] Sips Supply: yes
[19:15] Mudita Wilber: yeah, phone call format might get a little hairy
[19:15] Sips Supply: can we set any agenda
[19:15] Mudita Wilber: i think the idea of an agenda is great
[19:15] Mudita Wilber: to help focus the discussion
[19:15] Sips Supply: yes
[19:15] Mudita Wilber: and so we can prepare our thoughts beforehand
[19:16] ElJefe Packbiers: on a big call - one topic is good
[19:16] You: let's setup the google group and post back and forth on the agenda... then we can agree on the right chat venue next time
[19:16] Sips Supply: yes, but need a format to follow
[19:16] Mudita Wilber: sounds good
[19:16] ElJefe Packbiers: right!
[19:16] Sips Supply: wineq what's the email again
[19:16] You: you are setting the group up mudita
[19:16] Mudita Wilber: yes, doing that now
[19:17] Mudita Wilber: joshua@wineq.com
[19:17] ElJefe Packbiers: pick a cool name :)
[19:17] You: email me and i will post it in my blog post on this...
[19:17] Hugo Cordeaux: like ice
[19:17] Hugo Cordeaux: ;)
[19:17] Marshy Flossberg: you can email marshall@wineq.com too... i get lonely sometimes
[19:17] Mudita Wilber: will do, vino
[19:17] You: winecast@gmail.com
[19:17] ElJefe Packbiers: lol
[19:17] You: ok, i think we have concluded the session tonight; thanks everyone!
[19:18] Mudita Wilber: goodnight, thank again Vino!
[19:18] ElJefe Packbiers: THANKS JOSH!
[19:18] Mudita Wilber: yes, thanks again for hosting, Josh
[19:18] You: night; have a great friday, hugo
[19:18] RussianRiver Vallely: and there we are. no problem all
[19:18] Marshy Flossberg: josh, when's harvest
[19:18] Hugo Cordeaux: thanks all, Josh Tim
[19:18] ElJefe Packbiers: lovely vineyards, BTW
[19:18] You: yea, josh, when will the winery be done"
[19:18] You:
[19:19] RussianRiver Vallely: 2008 the winery will be complete
[19:19] Hugo Cordeaux: It's now 2pmF riday and i'm heading down the coast soon =)
[19:19] You: no, i mean here in SL
[19:19] RussianRiver Vallely: Feb the Sl winery will be complete
[19:19] ElJefe Packbiers: way cool
[19:19] You: great start
[19:19] ElJefe Packbiers: looking forward to BOTH grand openings!
[19:19] RussianRiver Vallely: )
[19:19] You: one last thing, josh; did you mail a t-shirt to me
[19:20] Marshy Flossberg: vino pass that cup over here
[19:20] RussianRiver Vallely: It is on its way
[19:20] You: i'd like to take that picture ;-)
[19:20] Sips Supply: Josh, I just sent you an email
[19:20] ElJefe Packbiers: josh - we need to do a shirt swap.
[19:20] Hugo Cordeaux: Ok, i'm off. Thanks everyone.
[19:20] You: how
[19:20] Marshy Flossberg:
[19:20] RussianRiver Vallely: Jefe - I need to come up to your place
[19:20] Sips Supply: see ya
[19:20] Sips Supply: see ya
[19:20] ElJefe Packbiers: please!
[19:21] Hugo Cordeaux: I've always wanted to fly off in a great exit kinda way
[19:21] Marshy Flossberg: inventory, somehow
[19:21] ElJefe Packbiers: lol!
[19:21] Sips Supply: down to 7
[19:21] Hugo Cordeaux: didnt' work so well ;(
[19:21] ElJefe Packbiers: josh - i'm having a hard time seeing this as web 3.0
[19:21] RussianRiver Vallely: lol
[19:22] Sips Supply: vino, how'd you get the glass
[19:22] ElJefe Packbiers: except in a sort of keystone cop sort of way...:)
[19:22] Hugo Cordeaux is Offline
[19:22] You: huh, i'm just getting into 2.0 right now ;-)
[19:22] ElJefe Packbiers: josh - please come and see us - and give me notice so i can be sure to be in town
[19:22] RussianRiver Vallely: Jefe - I'm not convinced that second life is the answer but it is a start
[19:23] ElJefe Packbiers: it is certainly something to keep the 'buzz' alive until you have real wine!
[19:23] RussianRiver Vallely: very true
[19:23] You: just copyed and pasted the transcript to my computer; will read and blog later
[19:24] ElJefe Packbiers: please do post it
[19:24] Sips Supply: I still want a glass
[19:24] You: how do i give something away
[19:24] RussianRiver Vallely: go to inventory and drag it on an avatar
[19:24] You: the glass is marked as such
[19:24] You: oh, sips first
[19:25] You: that didn't work
[19:25] Mudita Wilber: anybody know how to save a copy of our historic conversation, here
[19:25] Sips Supply: whoa
[19:25] You: history, then copy and paste
[19:25] ElJefe Packbiers: wtf
[19:26] RussianRiver Vallely: batmobile
[19:26] Marshy Flossberg: sorry
[19:26] Marshy Flossberg: that was my batmobile
[19:26] ElJefe Packbiers: cool!
[19:26] Sips Supply: can you do a bat-turn in it
[19:26] You: where are those scripts, josh
[19:26] RussianRiver Vallely: up here
[19:26] Sips Supply: don't lose your clothes on that thing
[19:27] RussianRiver Vallely: up up
[19:27] Mudita Wilber is Offline
[19:28] Sips Supply is Offline
[19:28] RussianRiver Vallely is Offline
[19:28] ElJefe Packbiers: bye all
[19:28] You: later, el jefe
[19:28] ElJefe Packbiers is Offline
[19:29] You: thanks for being here
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