Newsgroups: sol.lists.freebsd.chat
From: tlamb...@primenet.com
Date: 01 Dec 2000 03:13:25 +0000
Local: Thurs, Nov 30 2000 10:13 pm
Subject: Re: Here is what IBM thinks about using FreeBSD on their newer
This is getting rat-holed into another "GPL is evil" tirade...
> >Only if you link against it. When was the last time you The real "grep" source code is still available; sure it > >linked against "grep"? > In this case, it's infectious in a different way: It is means you have to assemble the parts instead of just taking FreeBSD and running, but be honest: any product based on FreeBSD, or any Open Source code, for that matter, has to be productized before it is really useful. > Also, proponents of the GPL are now opting for an expanded I haven't heard this, and I have reason to doubt it: the > requirement based on the notion of "performance for profit." > Just running the code in a situation where you made money > from it would trigger a requirement to forfeit one's work. MySQL license was this way, and they moved away from that to go with the GPL instead, which dropped the "no commercial use" restrictions, including the performance for profit restriction. > >People who needed access to a command line, and could actually You may be sure, but you're also wrong. 8-). > >use one, were such access granted, were not in our target > >market. > Ah, but I'm sure that the scripts that run your GUI activate Actually, the UI code on the InterJet is predominantly written The stuff that's not written that way is writen in C, and the In fact, the only things that weren't in this model were the Even in the startup and shutdown scripts (at least two of which Even if you were right and the rest of the world were wrong IBM does not sell InterJets, any more than your local cable Consider if you were to run a program compilation service, Likewise, I could that GCC, modify it, make a compiler that So much for any "performance for profit" clause which might > >There is a Ricoh photocopier and a Ricoh document capture Doubtful. CGIs are underpowered, and scripted CGIs will > >device, both based on FreeBSD. I rather seriously doubt > >that they ship the code in such a state that you could get > >a command line, period. > I'll have to check with Steve Savitzky on this. (He's a always lose out, performance-wise, to compiled code. If you are right, then someone is just going to build the same product, throw out the scripting, and take their market away from them, based on higher performance on equivalent CPU cycles, or the same performance on lower cost hardware with lesser CPU cycles. Binary always beats scripts on everything but prototyping. Scripts are not a good idea for deployment, since they are fragile in the face of system upgrades and other changes which might change the underlying components implementing their functionality (e.g.: grep), and since it is almost impossible to do formal verification against a script: you'd have to verify every system comonent with which the script interacted, and then you'd have to invent a formal validation tool for sh or perl, which while not quite an NP-incomplete problem, would be close enough for the amount of time remaining before your product is obsolete. Terry Lambert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@FreeBSD.org You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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