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 More options Feb 3 2005, 11:41 am
Newsgroups: sci.environment
From: "peroxisome" <peroxis...@ntlworld.com>
Date: 3 Feb 2005 08:41:01 -0800
Local: Thurs, Feb 3 2005 11:41 am
Subject: Re: McKintyre & McKitrick publish again !

>You denialists cite John Daly, CO2 science, SEEP, Lomb­org, Cato
>Institute, etc.  When we direct you to the scientific journa­ls, you
ignore
>them.

Hi Lloyd
I am not sure I understand your argument. Are you saying that hypocrisy
is okay if you believe in MBH'98 ? That two wrongs make a right ?
Or are you saying it is pretty poor to make an abusive statement about
a paper when you have not even read that paper ?

>>I will say that the Mann & Schmidt comment on real climate ­makes
>>several statements which I believe to be factually incorrec­t.
>And your qualifications to make this judgment are?

My qualifications for this are that I can read, and understand logic.
That's all it takes.
For example, when Mann says:
"All of their original claims have now been fully discredited "
this is a straightforward untruth. Mann himself published in 2004,
acknowledging that M&M had drawn his attention to a number of errors in
MBH'98. Therefore, Mann himself has acknowledged that some of the
claims of M&M are true.

Given that Mann made this latter statement in 2005, and he himself has
made a contradictory and mutually exclusive statement in 2004, it is
very difficult for me to understand how this is not a deliberate
falsehood.

yours a little confused
per


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