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Kristin McConaughey  
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 More options Jul 31 2003, 2:30 pm
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From: Kristin McConaughey <k...@pas-de-spam-merci.com>
Date: 31 Jul 2003 18:29:05 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jul 31 2003 2:29 pm
Subject: En Route's tents and trees puzzles
Air Canada's inflight magazine "En Route" has a neat puzzle type that kept
me busy for a little while on a recent flight. In a square grid, maybe
12x12 or so, a certain number of trees are placed in cells. You then have
to attach a tent to each tree, in a cell neighbouring it horizontally or
vertically, such that no two tents neighbour one another (diagonal
neighbours are also disallowed). Numbers beside and below the grid tell
you how many tents should appear in each row and column. It was a fun
puzzle, and I'd like to find some more.

En Route doesn't put their puzzle page on the web. Googling +tents +trees
+puzzle doesn't turn up anything, and I wonder whether this is a known
type of puzzle that usually features other objects I could search for
(i.e. En Route's puzzle editor changed it to trees and tents). Does this
ring a bell with anyone? Has anyone got a recent issue of En Route they
can copy a puzzle from and post it, as an example to others?

Kristin


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Dave Langers  
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 More options Aug 2 2003, 11:08 am
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From: Dave Langers <d.langers.wants-no-s...@wxs.nl>
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 17:09:22 +0200
Local: Sat, Aug 2 2003 11:09 am
Subject: Re: En Route's tents and trees puzzles

In Holland we have (or at least had) monthly editions in which I have
seen such puzzles. A personal webpage in Dutch containing a similar
puzzle is
http://members.lycos.nl/puzzel/logica.html#Puzzel3
I suggest you mail the author of this page for more information on this
type of puzzle.

All the way at the bottom of the aforementioned page you'll find a
diagram, with the following text (translated):

<START TRANSLATION>

House-Tree-Animal
In the diagram, 16 connected triplets have to be drawn. A triplet
consists of a house, a tree and an animal, in which the tree always is
at the centre. Similar symbols can never be found in adjacent squares,
not even diagonally. The three symbols can be placed horizontally,
vertically, or 'cornerwise', but not diagonally. The digits on the right
and bottom indicate the number of symbols in the respective row or column.
<DIAGRAM: http://members.lycos.nl/puzzel/hbb.gif >
If you think you have solved a puzzle, mail it to me:
karengerr...@dolfijn.nl. Make a picture of your solution (e.g. jpg) to
send it in few bytes and with a good result.

<END TRANSLATION>


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Kristin McConaughey  
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 More options Aug 3 2003, 12:00 pm
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From: Kristin McConaughey <k...@pas-de-spam.com>
Date: 3 Aug 2003 15:41:37 GMT
Local: Sun, Aug 3 2003 11:41 am
Subject: Re: En Route's tents and trees puzzles

Dave Langers <d.langers.wants-no-s...@wxs.nl> wrote:
> In Holland we have (or at least had) monthly editions in which I have
> seen such puzzles. A personal webpage in Dutch containing a similar
> puzzle is
> http://members.lycos.nl/puzzel/logica.html#Puzzel3

Thanks! That is just what I was looking for.

> House-Tree-Animal

or Huisje-boomje-beestje! "Beestje" is great - makes you think of
beasties. Dutch is really fun to read when you know German and English. Is
the "-je" at the end of each word same as German "-chen", a diminutive?
"Boomje" sounds like "baumchen".

K


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David Brain  
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 More options Aug 4 2003, 10:52 am
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From: David Brain <n...@davidbrain.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 14:51:44 GMT
Local: Mon, Aug 4 2003 10:51 am
Subject: Re: Re: En Route's tents and trees puzzles
On 3 Aug 2003 15:41:37 GMT, Kristin McConaughey <k...@pas-de-spam.com>
wrote:

>Dutch is really fun to read when you know German and English

I saw an introductory German-language textbook (for English speakers)
which started by printing the weather forecast in Dutch.
It was a rather clever technique for relaxing the nervous.

--
David Brain
London, UK


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Dave Langers  
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 More options Aug 5 2003, 7:16 am
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From: Dave Langers <d.lang...@wxs.nl>
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 13:17:10 +0200
Local: Tues, Aug 5 2003 7:17 am
Subject: Re: En Route's tents and trees puzzles
 >>In Holland we have (or at least had) monthly editions in which I have
 >>seen such puzzles. A personal webpage in Dutch containing a similar
 >>puzzle is
 >>http://members.lycos.nl/puzzel/logica.html#Puzzel3

 > Thanks! That is just what I was looking for.

 >>House-Tree-Animal

 > or Huisje-boomje-beestje! "Beestje" is great - makes you think of
 > beasties. Dutch is really fun to read when you know German and
English. Is
 > the "-je" at the end of each word same as German "-chen", a diminutive?
 > "Boomje" sounds like "baumchen".

You're right, Kristin (is that a Scandinavian name BTW?), it is a
diminutive. "-je" is the basic form, but depending on the last letter of
the word sometimes "-tje", "-pje" or "-etje" has to be added. Like the
tree: 'boom'-'boomPje' (instead of 'boomje').
And "beest" could indeed be translated to "beast", although I think that
"beast" might have a bit of a negative connotation to it, whereas
"beest" doesn't.

Some more news: I did find a tree+tent problem in a recent edition of a
puzzle magazine, so they still exist and are reasonably popular. If you
don't mind the language-difference, you might want to take a peek into
one of the magazines in the category "logische puzzels" on
http://www.abonnee.nu/index_html?titelid=28
(look for "breinbrekers"="brainbashers" and "logimix")
Or on
http://www.denksport.nl/denkshop/puzzel.php?959766020
(look for Logi-Varia)

I have the impression that logic puzzles seem to be slightly more
popular in the Dutch speaking community (including Belgium). For
instance, whole separate editions are devoted to a puzzle type called
"Logikwiz" or "Logigram", whereas I haven't been able to find any such
diagrams on the internet in other languages. See for example my own site
http://home.planet.nl/~d.langers/home.html?3gB
Is this impression correct, or have I just not been able to find the
right sites?


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Kristin McConaughey  
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 More options Aug 7 2003, 1:30 pm
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From: Kristin McConaughey <k...@nicht-spammen.com>
Date: 7 Aug 2003 17:11:13 GMT
Local: Thurs, Aug 7 2003 1:11 pm
Subject: Re: En Route's tents and trees puzzles

Dave Langers <d.lang...@wxs.nl> wrote:
> You're right, Kristin (is that a Scandinavian name BTW?),

Yes, though I just searched the directory at my university in North
America and found such a variety of surnames for people called 'Kristin',
that I guess it's a global name now. I was about to cut-and-paste the list
when I realised I'm probably not supposed to, though it seems harmless
enough.

No prizes for guessing what part of the world "McConaughey" is from.

> Some more news: I did find a tree+tent problem in a recent edition of a
> puzzle magazine, so they still exist and are reasonably popular.

Thanks! I have also made contact with someone whose father works for Air
Canada and has a stack of back issues of En Route with the puzzles, so I
think I'll take one or two along each time I travel from now.

K


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