Took the plunge and just bought my first DLSR. Could so far afford the luxury of using cameras without slapping mirrors (my last camera was a Sony R1).
Well, this slapping mirror is really an earthquake. When you press the shutter, it makes the entire camera vibrate. I'm still awaiting delivery of a 70-300mm lens, but I'm wondering if this slapping mirror will compromise sharpness at long focal lengths. What is the solution here? Using MLU for every shot can't be an option. --
In article <MPG.22db46618d9c589d98b...@news.supernews.com>, Alfred
Molon <alfred_mo...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Well, this slapping mirror is really an earthquake. When you press the > shutter, it makes the entire camera vibrate. > I'm still awaiting delivery of a 70-300mm lens, but I'm wondering if > this slapping mirror will compromise sharpness at long focal lengths. > What is the solution here? Using MLU for every shot can't be an option.
Without knowing the specific camera, it's hard to comment. But all of the DSLRs I've heard are much quieter than their 35mm predecessors, and definitely more quiet than a medium format.
> Took the plunge and just bought my first DLSR. Could so far afford the > luxury of using cameras without slapping mirrors (my last camera was a > Sony R1).
> Well, this slapping mirror is really an earthquake. When you press the > shutter, it makes the entire camera vibrate. > I'm still awaiting delivery of a 70-300mm lens, but I'm wondering if > this slapping mirror will compromise sharpness at long focal lengths. > What is the solution here? Using MLU for every shot can't be an option.
Mmmm, obviously you have never used a film SLR, the modern D-SLRs are much quieter. You don't get anything for nothing mate, get over it.
>> Took the plunge and just bought my first DLSR. Could so far afford the >> luxury of using cameras without slapping mirrors (my last camera was a >> Sony R1).
>> Well, this slapping mirror is really an earthquake. When you press the >> shutter, it makes the entire camera vibrate. >> I'm still awaiting delivery of a 70-300mm lens, but I'm wondering if >> this slapping mirror will compromise sharpness at long focal lengths. >> What is the solution here? Using MLU for every shot can't be an option.
The solution is to not worry about mirror slap. Worry about camera motion due to your own hands moving the camera when you press the button. The mirror simply does not cause problems. Apparently the designers know how to design cameras, at least Canon and Nikon do.
In article <g4rct7$of...@news.acm.uiuc.edu>, says...
> The solution is to not worry about mirror slap. Worry about camera > motion due to your own hands moving the camera when you press the button. > The mirror simply does not cause problems. Apparently the designers > know how to design cameras, at least Canon and Nikon do.
Well, I don't know. I heard that if the exposure is long and you use a tripod, the slapping mirror will affect shots at long focal lengths (unless you use MLU - a feature Sony astutely took out of the A350). I think I'll just wait until the 70-300 lens arrives and will then make some tests. --
> Took the plunge and just bought my first DLSR. Could so far afford the > luxury of using cameras without slapping mirrors (my last camera was a > Sony R1).
> Well, this slapping mirror is really an earthquake. When you press the > shutter, it makes the entire camera vibrate. > I'm still awaiting delivery of a 70-300mm lens, but I'm wondering if > this slapping mirror will compromise sharpness at long focal lengths. > What is the solution here? Using MLU for every shot can't be an option. > --
> Alfred Molon > ------------------------------
Ya know, people asked the same question about the Nikon F when they brought it our in the 1950's....
Alfred Molon wrote: > Took the plunge and just bought my first DLSR. Could so far afford the > luxury of using cameras without slapping mirrors (my last camera was a > Sony R1).
> Well, this slapping mirror is really an earthquake. When you press the > shutter, it makes the entire camera vibrate. > I'm still awaiting delivery of a 70-300mm lens, but I'm wondering if > this slapping mirror will compromise sharpness at long focal lengths. > What is the solution here? Using MLU for every shot can't be an option.
The simple answer is that mirror slap can only be a problem in a restricted range of shutter speeds, and it varies from camera to camera, but iirc, it was almost always in the range from ~ 1/8-1/30. Google the topic - I'm too lazy!
The effect is very mild in most cameras and can probably be ignored - at those speeds you should probably be on a tripod anyway esp. if shooting long..
I have had a couple of (old) cameras that seemed to have a bit of a problem - and I remember being grateful my old Zenit was so heavy that it damped the huge kerthunk. But nowadays...
Alfred Molon wrote: > In article <g4rct7$of...@news.acm.uiuc.edu>, says...
>> The solution is to not worry about mirror slap. Worry about camera >> motion due to your own hands moving the camera when you press the button. >> The mirror simply does not cause problems. Apparently the designers >> know how to design cameras, at least Canon and Nikon do.
> Well, I don't know. I heard that if the exposure is long and you use a > tripod, the slapping mirror will affect shots at long focal lengths > (unless you use MLU - a feature Sony astutely took out of the A350). > I think I'll just wait until the 70-300 lens arrives and will then make > some tests.
Excellent idea. A handful of folks have posted here about the necessity for mirror lock up for almost anything over 1/60th. I think it's way overrated in many situations.
Alfred Molon <alfred_mo...@yahoo.com> wrote: >Took the plunge and just bought my first DLSR. Could so far afford the >luxury of using cameras without slapping mirrors (my last camera was a >Sony R1).
>Well, this slapping mirror is really an earthquake. When you press the >shutter, it makes the entire camera vibrate. >I'm still awaiting delivery of a 70-300mm lens, but I'm wondering if >this slapping mirror will compromise sharpness at long focal lengths. >What is the solution here? Using MLU for every shot can't be an option.
By far the best option for _YOU_ is to go back to a P&S or maybe a bridge camera. You keep on complaining about everything that characterizes an SLR, so obviously an SLR is not the right camera for you.
J.H. Holliday wrote: > "Alfred Molon" <alfred_mo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.22db46618d9c589d98bd2c@news.supernews.com... >> Took the plunge and just bought my first DLSR. Could so far afford the >> luxury of using cameras without slapping mirrors (my last camera was a >> Sony R1).
>> Well, this slapping mirror is really an earthquake. When you press the >> shutter, it makes the entire camera vibrate. >> I'm still awaiting delivery of a 70-300mm lens, but I'm wondering if >> this slapping mirror will compromise sharpness at long focal lengths. >> What is the solution here? Using MLU for every shot can't be an option. >> --
>> Alfred Molon >> ------------------------------
> Ya know, people asked the same question about the Nikon F when they brought > it our in the 1950's....
I was just thinking, it hasn't been a major issue for the half-century or so that SLRs have been around, so why should it be now?
