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Frank  
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 More options Jul 3, 2:42 am
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From: Frank <FRMaho...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 23:42:33 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 3 2008 2:42 am
Subject: Purchasing rivetted maille on the cheap?
Hello, Folks. I'm working towards putting together my own heavy
fighting kit for use in Nordskogen. I'm primarily interested in things
that happened before 1350, which means that in one form or other, a
suit of maille is called for. The going rate for a knee length, full
sleeve hauberk of wedge rivetted flat rings seems to be in the
neighborhood of 700$. I don't want to pay 700$ if it can at all be
help, but at the same time I'd really rather not go in for a suit of
butted maille, and I sincerely do not wish to make my own maille.

So, this is the question. Where can I find a rivetted maille hauberk,
preferably knee length and with sleeves of at least 3/4s length, for
any price less than 700$, and preferably closer to free, stolen, or
taken from the still hands of a fallen enemy. Failing that, who is a
reputable vendor from whom I might purchase a quality set of maille?


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David Friedman  
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 More options Jul 4, 5:55 am
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From: David Friedman <d...@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com>
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:55:03 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 5:55 am
Subject: Re: Purchasing rivetted maille on the cheap?
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<b917b44f-6f6b-4eee-9fad-789a6087d...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,

 Frank <FRMaho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, Folks. I'm working towards putting together my own heavy
> fighting kit for use in Nordskogen. I'm primarily interested in things
> that happened before 1350, which means that in one form or other, a
> suit of maille is called for. The going rate for a knee length, full
> sleeve hauberk of wedge rivetted flat rings seems to be in the
> neighborhood of 700$. I don't want to pay 700$ if it can at all be
> help, but at the same time I'd really rather not go in for a suit of
> butted maille, and I sincerely do not wish to make my own maille.

> So, this is the question. Where can I find a rivetted maille hauberk,
> preferably knee length and with sleeves of at least 3/4s length, for
> any price less than 700$, and preferably closer to free, stolen, or
> taken from the still hands of a fallen enemy. Failing that, who is a
> reputable vendor from whom I might purchase a quality set of maille?

You might consider the alternative of lamellar, which fits your time
constraints, is a lot easier to make yourself than mail, and provides
protection for SCA combat.

--
 http://www.daviddfriedman.com/ http://daviddfriedman.blogspot.com/
 Author of _Harald_, a fantasy without magic.
 Published by Baen, paperback in bookstores now


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Frank  
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 More options Jul 5, 3:42 pm
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From: Frank <FRMaho...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:42:13 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 3:42 pm
Subject: Re: Purchasing rivetted maille on the cheap?
On Jul 4, 4:55 am, David Friedman <d...@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com>
wrote:

I'm more interested in maille for the look and feel of it than any
protection value. a coat of maille in inextricably tied to my concept
of what a 'knight' is, from the 800's to about 1300. I actually have a
Lamellar Klibanion based off of the instructions in Cariadoc's Misc.,
but I want to look right, if that makes any sense. I guess I'm trying
to look like my ideal knight in shiny armor, except instead of full
plate I want oily, messy, loud, heavy rings.

That said, if I can't get a suit of maille I'll most likely just stick
with the Klibanion and declare myself to be a turk.


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David Friedman  
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 More options Jul 5, 6:14 pm
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From: David Friedman <d...@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com>
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:14:51 -0700
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 6:14 pm
Subject: Re: Purchasing rivetted maille on the cheap?
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I'm glad you found the article useful.

You don't have to declare yourself a Turk--lamellar was used in lots of
places. There were a variety of lamellae found at Wisby, for instance,
and the famous Chinese pottery soldiers excavated some years back were
largely wearing lamellar.

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 Author of _Harald_, a fantasy without magic.
 Published by Baen, paperback in bookstores now


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Frank  
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 More options Jul 5, 6:29 pm
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From: Frank <FRMaho...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:29:07 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 6:29 pm
Subject: Re: Purchasing rivetted maille on the cheap?
You know, I didn't realize who I a was talking to. I'd like to thank
you for Miscellany. It's been immensely helpful to me over the years,
both as a practical guidebook and a source of inspiration.

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David Friedman  
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From: David Friedman <d...@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com>
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:09:09 -0700
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 7:09 pm
Subject: Re: Purchasing rivetted maille on the cheap?
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 Frank <FRMaho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You know, I didn't realize who I a was talking to. I'd like to thank
> you for Miscellany. It's been immensely helpful to me over the years,
> both as a practical guidebook and a source of inspiration.

Glad to be of use.

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 Author of _Harald_, a fantasy without magic.
 Published by Baen, paperback in bookstores now


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From: John Campbell <jcamp...@lynn.ci-n.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:52:21 GMT
Local: Sat, Jul 26 2008 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: Purchasing rivetted maille on the cheap?

Frank wrote:
> Hello, Folks. I'm working towards putting together my own heavy
> fighting kit for use in Nordskogen. I'm primarily interested in things
> that happened before 1350, which means that in one form or other, a
> suit of maille is called for. The going rate for a knee length, full
> sleeve hauberk of wedge rivetted flat rings seems to be in the
> neighborhood of 700$. I don't want to pay 700$ if it can at all be
> help, but at the same time I'd really rather not go in for a suit of
> butted maille, and I sincerely do not wish to make my own maille.

> So, this is the question. Where can I find a rivetted maille hauberk,
> preferably knee length and with sleeves of at least 3/4s length, for
> any price less than 700$, and preferably closer to free, stolen, or
> taken from the still hands of a fallen enemy. Failing that, who is a
> reputable vendor from whom I might purchase a quality set of maille?

        Several of the locals hereabouts have flat-linked riveted mail hauberks
that they bought from Sir Karl von Sussen. Poking around his eBay store
(http://stores.ebay.com/Highland-Arms) a little, it looks like he
charges about $500-600 depending on whether you want stainless or mild
steel. (There's at least one aluminum one on the field around here, too,
but I don't see them on his site. I'm guessing you don't want aluminum,
anyway.) I don't think that includes shipping, though, so you might be
right back up to $700 after figuring in the cost of mailing 30 pounds of
steel around.

--
AEthelwulf of Mountain Freehold
mka John Campbell
jcamp...@lynn.ci-n.com


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Robert Uhl  
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:02:13 -0600
Local: Tues, Jul 29 2008 11:02 pm
Subject: Re: Purchasing rivetted maille on the cheap?

Frank <FRMaho...@gmail.com> writes:
> You know, I didn't realize who I a was talking to. I'd like to thank
> you for Miscellany. It's been immensely helpful to me over the years,
> both as a practical guidebook and a source of inspiration.

I'll second that.  The Miscellany was--along with the Florilegium and
the Rialto itself--a good part of what got me interested in the SCA in
the first place.  It's a great piece of work and deserves its share of
praise &c.

--
Guthlac of Caerthe <http://public.xdi.org/=ruhl>
Try travelling from state to state in America without a driver's license
and proof of insurance, to be yielded up to the first uniformed
road-thug who demands it.                       --L. Neil Smith


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