Google Groups Home
Help | Sign in
Message from discussion Plan the play
The group you are posting to is a Usenet group. Messages posted to this group will make your email address visible to anyone on the Internet.
Your reply message has not been sent.
Your post was successful
Charles Brenner  
View profile
 More options May 17, 12:31 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
From: Charles Brenner <cbren...@berkeley.edu>
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 09:31:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, May 17 2008 12:31 pm
Subject: Re: Plan the play
On May 16, 6:58 pm, "Cakemeister"

<cakemeis...@nospaam.comcast.net.delete> wrote:
> "kingfish" <sandybarnes...@verizon.net> wrote in message

> news:3d047a6a-5c15-4919-ac3f-ff35ec604cfd@i36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On May 16, 4:23 am, "Cakemeister"

> <cakemeis...@nospaam.comcast.net.delete> wrote:
> > Contract 6S.

> > Matchpoints, no opposining bidding

> > K963
> > -
> > A32
> > AKJ532

> > AJ74
> > AQJ7432
> > K
> > 4

> > Too bad you don't have the 10 of hearts or else you would want to be in
> > 6NT.

> > A diamond is led.

> > This is a complicated hand where a number of lines of play could work. But
> > what do you think is the best line?

> > Regards,
> > Cakemeister

>    ***
> I would try to set up dummy.  After the diamond king wins, club to
> ace, club ruff.  Heart ace, throwing a diamond, spade ace and spade to
> king.  Club ruff.  this wins with 4-2 clubs and 3-2 spades.

> Sandy Barnes
>    ***

> I wonder what the probability of this line is as opposed to the crossruff
> line.

> Unfortunately, your play fails as the cards lay, barring a defensive error.

> RHO had:
> Q10xx
> Kxx
> Jxx
> Qxx

> So, when you play ace of clubs, ruff a club, ace of hearts, ace of spades,
> king of spades, LHO will show out. Now you can play the king of clubs and
> thankfully the queen drops.

> That leaves something like:

> 9x
> -
> A
> Jxx

>                          Q10
>                          Kx
>                          Jx
>                          -

> J
> QJxxx
> -
> -

> All RHO has to do is duck dummy's four winners and he will take the last two
> tricks with the Q10 of spades.

> The crossruff line which is king of diamonds, ace of hearts discarding a
> club, ruff a heart, ace of diamonds discarding a heart, ruff a diamond, ruff
> a heart, ace king of clubs, ruff a club, ruff a heart with the king, ruff a
> club with the jack, works.

But it must be hugely against the odds. The chance to score two club
ruffs in hand is under 50%, hence already the crossruff is
substantially inferior to Sandy's line. Never mind the possibility
that the hearts may be xx on the right.

Indeed, if you begin as you propose (i.e. club A,K, ruff) and see that
clubs are 3-3, what seems natural to me simply play spade A, K and try
to run the clubs. This works when trumps are 3-2 which is of course
better than the chance to score a club ruff with the trump J.

As a slight technical improvement, along the way ruff a heart just in
case RHO is 4333 as in the matrix above.

But now we are at a line that is easy to compare with Sandy's. Is it
better to cash two clubs before ruffing one, or only one as he does?
Cashing two clubs gains some of the time that the Q drops tripleton
(36%) and trumps are 1=4 (14%). Cashing one club usually gains when
RHO has Qxxx of clubs (16%) and trumps are 3-2 (68%). Some of 5% is
less than most of 11%.

> I like ruffing a heart in dummy early because if the king drops you are in
> good shape.

I don't. Yes, you are nearly home the 16% of the time that the hK is
doubleton. But the price you pay is the chance to establish the clubs
when someone has Qxxx (32%) and in addition trumps are 3-2 (net of
22%).

Charles


    Reply to author    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.

Create a group - Google Groups - Google Home - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy
©2008 Google