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Tom Quackenbush  
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 More options Jul 4, 8:45 pm
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.metalworking
From: Tom Quackenbush <tqu...@boguskingcon.com>
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:45:52 -0400
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 8:45 pm
Subject: Cutting oil v. thread cutting oil - difference?
  My "lat" can of cutiing oil wandered off, so I went to the local
Borg to buy some more. All that they had was pints of "dark" thread
cuttiing oil (Oatey 30203), so I bought that.

  I'll be using it for cutting or drillling  iron/steel.

  What's the difference? For Harry homeowner, does it matter?

R,
Tom Q.l


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W. Stief  
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 More options Jul 4, 11:58 pm
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From: "W. Stief" <n...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 22:58:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Cutting oil v. thread cutting oil - difference?

Tom Quackenbush wrote:
>   My "lat" can of cutiing oil wandered off, so I went to the local
> Borg to buy some more. All that they had was pints of "dark" thread
> cuttiing oil (Oatey 30203), so I bought that.

>   I'll be using it for cutting or drillling  iron/steel.

>   What's the difference? For Harry homeowner, does it matter?

> R,
> Tom Q.l

Seems to be the good stuff:

      Ingredient #                             01
      Ingredient Name                          HYDROCARBON OILS
      CAS Number                               1003
      Proprietary                              NO
      Percent                                  0
      Ingredient #                             02
      Ingredient Name                          SULFUR COMPOUNDS
      CAS Number                               1003
      Proprietary                              NO
      Percent                                  0
      Ingredient #                             03
      Ingredient Name                          CHLORINATED PARAFFINS
      CAS Number                               1003
      Proprietary                              NO
      Percent                                  0


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Michael Koblic  
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 More options Jul 5, 12:00 am
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From: "Michael Koblic" <mkob...@uniserve.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 21:00:14 -0700
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 12:00 am
Subject: Re: Cutting oil v. thread cutting oil - difference?
FWIW (I have no qualifications to speak of except enthusiasm and experience
acquired through a string of failures), I use Rapid Tap for both tapping and
drilling. It seems to do the trick on holes up to 3/8" (I seldom do any
bigger).

--
Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC

"Tom Quackenbush" <tqu...@boguskingcon.com> wrote in message

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Brian Lawson  
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 More options Jul 5, 8:47 am
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From: Brian Lawson <laws...@ciaccess.com>
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 08:47:05 -0400
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 8:47 am
Subject: Re: Cutting oil v. thread cutting oil - difference?
Hey Michael,

Rapid Tap (trade name) is great stuff, but it gives off a less than
desirable plume of fumes if "heated", as by drilling or turning, so
watch out.

One of the Rapid Tap products is labeled as being "non-staining" for
Aluminum.  I've never seen the difference when it is used on anything
else, so that is what I use.  Same problem with the smoke though!.

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 21:00:14 -0700, "Michael Koblic"


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Jim Wilkins  
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 More options Jul 5, 12:39 pm
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From: Jim Wilkins <KB1...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 09:39:30 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 12:39 pm
Subject: Re: Cutting oil v. thread cutting oil - difference?
On Jul 4, 8:45 pm, Tom Quackenbush <tqu...@boguskingcon.com> wrote:

>   My "lat" can of cutiing oil wandered off, so I went to the local
> Borg to buy some more. All that they had was pints of "dark" thread
> cuttiing oil (Oatey 30203), so I bought that.

>   I'll be using it for cutting or drillling  iron/steel.

>   What's the difference? For Harry homeowner, does it matter?

> R,
> Tom Q.l

It seems to be a little better than Crown cutting oil from MSC but not
nearly as good as the fancy tapping fluids.

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Michael Koblic  
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 More options Jul 5, 4:44 pm
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From: "Michael Koblic" <mkob...@uniserve.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:44:06 -0700
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: Cutting oil v. thread cutting oil - difference?

"Brian Lawson" <laws...@ciaccess.com> wrote in message

news:83ru64h802aui6mvlmqoa25ujfb2li8bvg@4ax.com...

> Hey Michael,

> Rapid Tap (trade name) is great stuff, but it gives off a less than
> desirable plume of fumes if "heated", as by drilling or turning, so
> watch out.

> One of the Rapid Tap products is labeled as being "non-staining" for
> Aluminum.  I've never seen the difference when it is used on anything
> else, so that is what I use.  Same problem with the smoke though!.

Would that explain the visions I have been having lately?

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Tom Gardner spamless  
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From: "Tom Gardner" <tom(spamless)@ohiobrush.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 07:40:13 -0400
Local: Sun, Jul 6 2008 7:40 am
Subject: Re: Cutting oil v. thread cutting oil - difference?

"Brian Lawson" <laws...@ciaccess.com> wrote in message

news:83ru64h802aui6mvlmqoa25ujfb2li8bvg@4ax.com...

> Hey Michael,

> Rapid Tap (trade name) is great stuff, but it gives off a less than
> desirable plume of fumes if "heated", as by drilling or turning, so
> watch out.

> One of the Rapid Tap products is labeled as being "non-staining" for
> Aluminum.  I've never seen the difference when it is used on anything
> else, so that is what I use.  Same problem with the smoke though!.

> Take care.

> Brian Lawson,
> Bothwell, Ontario.
> XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

If you're not smokin', you're doing it wrong!  It's the color of the smoke that
counts.


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Jim Wilkins  
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 More options Jul 6, 9:21 am
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From: Jim Wilkins <KB1...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 06:21:57 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Jul 6 2008 9:21 am
Subject: Re: Cutting oil v. thread cutting oil - difference?
On Jul 5, 4:44 pm, "Michael Koblic" <mkob...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> "Brian Lawson" <laws...@ciaccess.com> wrote in message

Same problem with the smoke though!.

> Would that explain the visions I have been having lately?

Wash off your safety glasses???

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sta...@prolynx.com  
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 More options Jul 6, 2:52 pm
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From: sta...@prolynx.com
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:52:57 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Jul 6 2008 2:52 pm
Subject: Re: Cutting oil v. thread cutting oil - difference?
On Jul 4, 6:45 pm, Tom Quackenbush <tqu...@boguskingcon.com> wrote:

>   My "lat" can of cutiing oil wandered off, so I went to the local
> Borg to buy some more. All that they had was pints of "dark" thread
> cuttiing oil (Oatey 30203), so I bought that.

>   I'll be using it for cutting or drillling  iron/steel.

>   What's the difference? For Harry homeowner, does it matter?

> R,
> Tom Q.l

The dark stuff has more sulfur in it, eases cutting threads on steel/
iron pipe with pipe dies.  Also reacts with aluminum, so don't use it
for cutting that.  A good choice for dabbing on a steel workpiece.
Expensive and messy for coolant setups, have seen it used, though.
When the workpiece gets hot, it smokes, other inhabitants may not
appreciate it.  I use it all the time for drilling and tapping harder
steels, like guns.

Usually the clear cutting oils rely more on chlorine, kind of does the
same job, not as effective, in my opinion, for hand uses on hard
steels.  This stuff also reacts with aluminum, usually more
vigorously.

Lard oil is another good choice, should you find an old-timey hardware
store that carries it.  Can be found in some of the "green" mixes,
it's biodegradeable.

Stan


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Robert Swinney  
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 More options Jul 4, 10:31 pm
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Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 21:31:46 -0500
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Subject: Re: Cutting oil v. thread cutting oil - difference?
The heavy black sulfurized stuff is hightly recommended as a replacement for the oil lard oil used
in the past.  I have never found a source for real lard oil so I have no basis for comparison.  The
black stuff works pretty well on threading.  Don't ask me if I think it is worth the mess.

Bob (don't say Crisco or bacon fat) Swinney

"Tom Quackenbush" <tqu...@boguskingcon.com> wrote in message

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  My "lat" can of cutiing oil wandered off, so I went to the local
Borg to buy some more. All that they had was pints of "dark" thread
cuttiing oil (Oatey 30203), so I bought that.

  I'll be using it for cutting or drillling  iron/steel.

  What's the difference? For Harry homeowner, does it matter?

R,
Tom Q.l

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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:36:23 -0500
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Subject: Re: Cutting oil v. thread cutting oil - difference?

"Robert Swinney" <judy...@tx.rr.com> wrote in message news:...

The heavy black sulfurized stuff is hightly recommended as a replacement for the oil lard oil used
in the past.  I have never found a source for real lard oil so I have no basis for comparison.  The
black stuff works pretty well on threading.  Don't ask me if I think it is worth the mess.

Bob (don't say Crisco or bacon fat) Swinney

"Tom Quackenbush" <tqu...@boguskingcon.com> wrote in message

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  My "lat" can of cutiing oil wandered off, so I went to the local
Borg to buy some more. All that they had was pints of "dark" thread
cuttiing oil (Oatey 30203), so I bought that.

  I'll be using it for cutting or drillling  iron/steel.

  What's the difference? For Harry homeowner, does it matter?

R,
Tom Q.l

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 More options Jul 9, 6:55 pm
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:55:27 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jul 9 2008 6:55 pm
Subject: Re: Cutting oil v. thread cutting oil - difference?
On Jul 4, 10:31 pm, "Robert Swinney" <judy...@tx.rr.com> wrote:

> ...I have never found a source for real lard oil so I have no basis for comparison.  

Grocery store, ethnic food shelves.

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