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gairlochan  
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 More options Jul 18, 12:47 pm
Newsgroups: rec.arts.int-fiction
From: gairlochan <stratopla...@mac.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:47:47 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Fri, Jul 18 2008 12:47 pm
Subject: Re: Spatterlight 0.5.0

Heh, I don't believe this! Just when I had given the Alan 3 language up as a
bad job because it had no Mac interpreter that I could find. And I'd thought
it was meant to be the language for me to learn on, as my technophobic
husband's name is Alan and my son's name is ... yes ... Tor! So much for
synchronicity!

Erica MacKenzie

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Discussion subject changed to "Alan (Re: Spatterlight 0.5.0)" by Greg Ewing
Greg Ewing  
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 More options Jul 21, 11:48 pm
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From: Greg Ewing <greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:48:14 +1200
Local: Mon, Jul 21 2008 11:48 pm
Subject: Alan (Re: Spatterlight 0.5.0)

gairlochan wrote:
> Heh, I don't believe this! Just when I had given the Alan 3 language up as a
> bad job because it had no Mac interpreter that I could find.

If you'd like to give Alan another go, I'd be happy to
help you with whatever compilation problems you were
having before.

IMO, Alan is quite a nice language that deserves more
attention than it gets. It would be good to see it
discussed here more.

--
Greg


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James Jolley  
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 More options Jul 22, 5:17 am
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From: James Jolley <james.jol...@me.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:17:36 +0100
Local: Tues, Jul 22 2008 5:17 am
Subject: Re: Alan (Re: Spatterlight 0.5.0)
On 2008-07-22 04:48:14 +0100, Greg Ewing <greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz> said:

> gairlochan wrote:

>> Heh, I don't believe this! Just when I had given the Alan 3 language up as a
>> bad job because it had no Mac interpreter that I could find.

> If you'd like to give Alan another go, I'd be happy to
> help you with whatever compilation problems you were
> having before.

> IMO, Alan is quite a nice language that deserves more
> attention than it gets. It would be good to see it
> discussed here more.

I'd like to know more about it in general. I've never even seen any
code or anything. Isn't it similar to I7 in that it attempts to make
language elements more englishlike?
--
Best

-James-


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greg  
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 More options Jul 22, 9:11 pm
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From: greg <g...@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:11:05 +1200
Local: Tues, Jul 22 2008 9:11 pm
Subject: Re: Alan (Re: Spatterlight 0.5.0)

James Jolley wrote:
> I'd like to know more about it in general. I've never even seen any code
> or anything.

I've appended a few snippets from the manual below to
give an idea of the flavour.

I'll see if I can dig out the Alan 2 game I wrote a while
back, which will provide a more substantial example.

 > Isn't it similar to I7 in that it attempts to make language
 > elements more englishlike?

In a way, but it doesn't go nearly as far in that direction.
It's English-like to about the same extent that COBOL was
English-like. The syntax has a clear structure to it, and
there is a BNF grammar for it published in the manual.

--------------------------------------------------------------

The kitchen Isa location
  Exit east To hallway.
End The Kitchen.

The hallway Isa location
   Description
     "In front of you is a long hallway. In one end
     is the front door, in the other a doorway. From
     the smell   Kitchen."
   Exit west To kitchen
     Check door Is open
       Else "The door is closed."
     Does
       "As you enter the kitchen the smell of
       something burning is getting stronger."
   End Exit west.
End The hallway.

The door Isa object At hallway
  Is closed.
  Description
   "The door to the kitchen is a sliding door."
   If door Is closed Then
    "It is closed."
   Else
    "It is open."
   End If.
   Verb open
    Does
     Make door Not closed.
   End Verb open.
End The door.

Start At kitchen.


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James Jolley  
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 More options Jul 23, 6:36 am
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From: James Jolley <james.jol...@me.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:36:09 +0100
Local: Wed, Jul 23 2008 6:36 am
Subject: Re: Alan (Re: Spatterlight 0.5.0)
On 2008-07-23 02:11:05 +0100, greg <g...@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz> said:

Code Snipped

Thanks a lot for all your help there. It's certainly an interesting
system, makes me think a little of AGT but not sure why.

Thanks and if you can dig up the code and feel like sending it, feel
free to email me.
--
Best

-James-


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Blank  
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 More options Jul 24, 11:54 am
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From: Blank <bl...@nowhere.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:54:56 +0100
Local: Thurs, Jul 24 2008 11:54 am
Subject: Re: Alan (Re: Spatterlight 0.5.0)

Greg Ewing wrote:
> gairlochan wrote:

>> Heh, I don't believe this! Just when I had given the Alan 3 language
>> up as a
>> bad job because it had no Mac interpreter that I could find.

> If you'd like to give Alan another go, I'd be happy to
> help you with whatever compilation problems you were
> having before.

> IMO, Alan is quite a nice language that deserves more
> attention than it gets. It would be good to see it
> discussed here more.

Yes, in a way it's a pity that the Alan mailing list is such a nice,
friendly place because it means that all the Alan chit-chat happens out
of sight of other raif readers.

--jz


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greg  
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 More options Jul 26, 2:55 am
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From: greg <g...@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:55:24 +1200
Local: Sat, Jul 26 2008 2:55 am
Subject: Re: Alan (Re: Spatterlight 0.5.0)

Blank wrote:
> Yes, in a way it's a pity that the Alan mailing list is such a nice,
> friendly place because it means that all the Alan chit-chat happens out
> of sight of other raif readers.

Not that there's been much chit-chat on the mailing list
either in recent times. Not sure if this means that
everything is crystal-clear to everyone, or that nobody
is doing anything with Alan. I rather fear the latter...

--
Greg


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Blank  
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 More options Jul 30, 7:38 am
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From: Blank <bl...@nowhere.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:38:32 +0100
Local: Wed, Jul 30 2008 7:38 am
Subject: Re: Alan (Re: Spatterlight 0.5.0)

greg wrote:
> Blank wrote:

>> Yes, in a way it's a pity that the Alan mailing list is such a nice,
>> friendly place because it means that all the Alan chit-chat happens
>> out of sight of other raif readers.

> Not that there's been much chit-chat on the mailing list
> either in recent times. Not sure if this means that
> everything is crystal-clear to everyone, or that nobody
> is doing anything with Alan. I rather fear the latter...

Yeah, for me I just got discouraged when I saw how much of the
documentation is yet to be written (especially all the stuff around
NPCs). Being a hobbyist programmer I have neither the experience nor the
time to play blind-man's-buff with the compiler to discover what works
and what doesn't.

--jz


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greg  
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 More options Jul 30, 9:06 pm
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From: greg <g...@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:06:57 +1200
Local: Wed, Jul 30 2008 9:06 pm
Subject: Re: Alan (Re: Spatterlight 0.5.0)

Blank wrote:
> Yeah, for me I just got discouraged when I saw how much of the
> documentation is yet to be written

You may find the Alan 2 manual helpful for filling
in the gaps. Most things are fairly similar between
the two.

--
Greg


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