"SuN Tsu" <bananananae [at]_ blockedby.us> screeched and flung his
feces in message
news:1105807838.088494.146360@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

"emotional and emotional problems"? Getting to you, am I, little
retarded monkey? You're oh-so-obvious low mental capabilities are
showing again. What's the matter, didn't know how to spell
'psychological', and couldn't figure out how to get your Speak & Spell
to work, again?

Riiiggghhhtttt... so, explain these fantasy scenarios of yours, Sun
Tstupid:

Sun Fool making false accusations of spamming against an anti-spammer:
====================
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/browse...
(Post #23)
====================

Sun Fool calling an anti-spammer a liar:
====================
"You're full of c...@p, Bob. Prove it! Post your email exchange with
DirectNic.com complete with headers. Otherwise, it's all just spammer
speak coming from an idiot/k00k like yourself."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/76...

Not once, but twice:

"Have a good weekend. Oh, when you decide to do some real
investigative
work to disprove anything posted, call DirectNic.com and ask for
Donny, if
there really is a Donny, and ask him to verify Bob's bullsh!t story."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/1e...
====================

Sun Fool attacking anti-spammers who question his false accusations:
====================
"Reread the entire article and come back when you can see past your
own
nose/self-interest and post anything that contradicts the facts. If
you
believe anything that Bob the bafoon's is spewing, you ae a
disappointment."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/9b...

"Now, Steve, if you actually want to do something useful and can't
understand too much information presented in one article, do some
googling
on your own or do you have to be spoon fed the facts in the fight
against
spam like some ignorant newbie to NANAE. Just because *you* can't put
two
and two together doesn't mean someone else can't."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/60...

"Now you sound like a spammer and/or someone who can't control his
emotions
and/or someone who forgot how to exhibit proper manners and employ
good
interpersonal skills in hos posts. :("
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/60...

"Your lack of common sense and good judgement is also legenday now as
well.
You made a personal attack when none was made upon youself. You were
foolish and therefore you should now have no tolerence for yourself."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/ee...

"Your inability to do such research and make the connection is no
reason or
excuse for such an emotional outburst and unwarranted attack
on another poster. There is *nothing* you can post to justify what you
have done, Andrew, but you are welcome to try if that is your
pleasure."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/ee...

"Well, you did prove one thing, Andrew, that your sole purpose in
posting
in this thread is simply to satisfy a personal vendetta and not to
fight
spam."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/25...

"Your inability to understand reality is clouded by your emotional
need to
be right and to have it domonstrated in NANAE. This was never about
you,
Andrew, but you seem to want it to be, or need it to be."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/25...

"Hmm, just how many puppets does Bob have in his sock drawer? Another
"anonymous" one-time poster steps forward to support Bob who
can't stand on his own two feet."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/e0...

"Donny was being facetious and since you don't sound like the
brightest
bulb in the circuit...
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=facetious
You are acting like a one-eyed-poster who appears to need some
attention by
involving yourself in something that doesn't concern you. How sad for
you."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/18...

"You are not thinking clearly because you are motivated by a one-eyed
personal agenda trying to prove theBanana wrong rather than posting
with a
two-eyed agenda of trying to fight spam. That's your misfortune."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/18...

"You successfully sued AdultFriendFinder.com yet they still spam
regularly.
This just proves that you are an ineffective spam fighter. You did,
however, put money in your own pocket from the lawsuit, which does
prove
that fighting spam can be profitable. Oh, you still can't spell and
are too
lazy to use a spell checquer. One more thing, you are a bad little
Pavlov
doggie. DING! SWITCH!"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/e0...
====================

Sun Fool continuing to stand by his false accusations against an
anti-spammer, in the face of overwhelming evidence that he's lying:
========================================
"OK, Steve, now you have some clues, no *proof,* that Bob is a
spammer.
Either follow them and prove or disprove the accusation, or apologise
for
your rude behaviour."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/60...

"Bob, are you Bob Greenawalt of webreseller.net
(r...@webreseller.net)?
Webreseller.net hosted some of the most egregious pr0n spammers on the
Internet, pus.bz and sic.bz, for SPEWS S1758 / isolate.net (sued by
MSN)
and SPEWS S1620 / Joshua Dean Stewart / John Morrison Johnson /
verynicetits / bentspokemedia / dirtytraffic.com (now hosted with PV).
From
http://spews.org/html/S1620.html"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/84...

"This post is dedicated to those "one-eyed regulars" who fall/fell
victim
to spammy's FUD and whine in NANAE in support of a spammer who
advocates fighting abuse with abuse, rather than spending their time
researching *spammers* and helping to stop spam."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/6e...

"::::    or are you this spammer?    ::::
 Google Search: 151.164.243.21
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=151.164.243.21&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&s..."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/76...

"You know, Bob, it all makes sense now. You are spouting, "down with
the
Russian spam gang!" and "look at me, I'm a super fscking spam fighter
who
got the Russian spam gang's domains shut down at Intercosmos.com!" And
at
the very same time you question the link between SPEWS S2134 and
thePlanet.com; why is that, Bob? Is it because Phil Doroff / SPEWS
S2134
and the Russian spam gang are competitors?"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/76...

"Remember almost one year ago when spammy was DDoSing Spamhaus,
Osirusoft,
Monkeys.com and a few other anti-spam sites, that Spamhaus.org said
that it
was two different spam gangs doing the DDoS attacks, one Russian and
one
American? Hmm, let's see, Phil Doroff of SPEWS S2134 is suspect in
some of
those DDoS attacks as was a Russian spam gang."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/76...

"Correction, bfs isn't your sock puppet, it's *you* Bob and *this* is
simply an alias you created within the last few days to have a go with
some
of the regulars. It's your form of amusement. You are a spammer, Bob,
plain and simple and you used to post as tube...@hotmail.com and an
expose'
on you is forthcoming. Soon, Bob, very soon.
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/76...

"Spoken like *true* chickenboner, Bob. There's that "we" again. Just
how
many frogs do you have in your "widdle itty bitty" pants pockets. You
talk
c...@p, Bob. You *are* c...@p, Bob! You pr0n spammers all have that
"thingie"
about being such great orators and just love to see your words in
print
"above the line" as Stewart like to say. And you "get off" by
pretending
to be some "hot babe" in a chat room on AOL whilst talking to a *male*
about sex."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/76...

"There's that "isole" stench of humour, again, Bob. You're making fun
of
Spitzer since he settled with Snotty, "orangeya?" Hmm, maybe you
know Snotty personally, do you, Bob?"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/76...

"Bob, you are either a mortgage spammer yourself or you support, or
have a
vested interest in, the mortgage spam industry. Tell us (tinu) the
truth,
Bob, you're here with a hidden agenda, "orangeja?""
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/76...

"Agreed. Bob is well versed is spamming and defending against being
stopped."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/97...

"Spammny registered /29's using 303 Second Street in San Francisco and
is
most likely related to globalofferz.biz, a *most* egregious pills/pron
spammer. Can you find any of his other /29's or link him to any SPEWS
records?"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/60...

"OK, people, move along. Nothing to see here "butt" another Rule # 1
challenged spam supporter/spammer/poster pretending to be ignorant and
yanking everyone's chain for the attention as spammers and k00ks often
do."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/44...

"More to follow later. Seems Mr. "Anon" has been busy the last three
days
posting in NANAE for some ulterior motive than to learn about SPEWS.
It
will be a long post, but revealing. It shouldn't come as a surprise to
anyone that the story will trace back to 2002 and be related to Mr.
Doroff
and his accomplices/partners..."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/44...

"You might want to spend your time seeking out Bob's true identity and
not
wasting it on a personal vendetta. Start by googling on "303 Second
Street" and see if you can dertemine on your own how Bob's address
used to
register his /29 is related to one of the *most* egregious spammers
ever
discussed in NANAE."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/ee...

"You're a spammer, Bob."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/4b...
====================

Of course, once caught, Sun Fool falls back to his spam-friendly ways
(Rule #1: Lying), claiming that he never accused an anti-spammer of
being a spammer:
========================================
"No one claimed that you were a spammer. You keep saying this with
absolutely *NO* proof."
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?selm=2f0f6d90.0411122249.72b0abd3%4...

"Darren, you really need to take a few steps backwards and stop and
think
for a moment about how you look and what you are doing. The link you
supply below leads to an email exchange with Donny which *clearly*
demonstrates that he cannot confirm your accusation that *anyone*
claimed
that you were a spammer much less Ronnie Scelson."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/b0...
========================================

You'll notice that Sun Tstupid had the first post above removed from
Google Groups US in an attempt at hiding his lies... but what he
doesn't realize (being the newbie that he is) is that Google is
worldwide.

Of course, he's done some other spam-friendly things, like post our
email addresses in the clear in an *admitted* attempt at causing our
spam receival rate to increase:

Sun Fool admitting to posting the email addresses of anti-spammers in
the clear, so he can help his spammer buddies deliver more spam:
========================================
"Read the sig, Bob, Bob, Bob, and think about how many times your
stupidity
has caused your email address, which you claim receives no spam, to be
harvested by spammer bots. Statistics suggests that you'll be
receiving a
lot more spam in the near future."
http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=5a07596f.0410292024.233bb198%40po...
========================================

Notice again that Sun Tstupid had Google remove this post in an
attempt at covering up his sleazy behavior... and again shows everyone
that he has no cognizance of the fact that Google is worldwide.

And he's posted our email addresses in the clear repeatedly. Here are
just a few of the numerous examples:

========================================
http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=5a07596f.0411250928.bef2751%40pos...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/64...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=630e418f.0411260524.1c7f2584%40po...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/9d...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=5a07596f.0411250902.412adbab%40po...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/1f...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=630e418f.0411260427.39161039%40po...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/ed...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=630e418f.0411260427.39161039%40po...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/ed...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=2f0f6d90.0411301247.62ad2c13%40po...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/97...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=630e418f.0411260648.3a6d2d54%40po...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/e1...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=630e418f.0411260648.3a6d2d54%40po...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/e1...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=5a07596f.0411250928.bef2751%40pos...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/64...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=5a07596f.0411250928.bef2751%40pos...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/64...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=630e418f.0411260524.1c7f2584%40po...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/9d...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=5a07596f.0411250902.412adbab%40po...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/1f...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=630e418f.0411260427.39161039%40po...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/ed...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=2f0f6d90.0411290552.264a5490%40po...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/61...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=5a07596f.0410250728.55bcc7a7%40po...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/f2...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=5a07596f.0410250920.247ddefc%40po...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/c4...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=5a07596f.0410250941.65f96672%40po...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/24...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=2f0f6d90.0410270908.73e74c2a%40po...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/58...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=5a07596f.0410271351.2164b69d%40po...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/msg/228fb2fcb7...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=5a07596f.0410290130.64859a46%40po...
(Removed from US Google Groups by SuN Tsu in an attempt at covering up
his sleazy behavior)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=5a07596f.0410292024.233bb198%40po...
(Removed from US Google Groups by SuN Tsu in an attempt at covering up
his sleazy behavior)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=2f0f6d90.0410310446.8ed641f%40pos...
(Removed from US Google Groups by SuN Tsu in an attempt at covering up
his sleazy behavior)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=5a07596f.0410310641.242c2f39%40po...
(Removed from US Google Groups by SuN Tsu in an attempt at covering up
his sleazy behavior)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=5a07596f.0410310708.467b10ac%40po...
(Removed from US Google Groups by SuN Tsu in an attempt at covering up
his sleazy behavior)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=5a07596f.0411010655.1c398e12%40po...
(Removed from US Google Groups by SuN Tsu in an attempt at covering up
his sleazy behavior)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=2f0f6d90.0411011233.23e14c96%40po...
(Removed from US Google Groups by SuN Tsu in an attempt at covering up
his sleazy behavior)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=5a07596f.0411020945.5a3f16db%40po...
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/a6...)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=5a07596f.0411040922.56165446%40po...
(Removed from US Google Groups by SuN Tsu in an attempt at covering up
his sleazy behavior)

http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=2f0f6d90.0411041901.bc896b1%40pos...
(Removed from US Google Groups by SuN Tsu in an attempt at covering up
his sleazy behavior)
========================================

And Sun Tsu continues this sleazy, spam friendly behavior to this day.

He's also posted an anti-spammers address and telephone number to
NANAE:
====================
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/1a...

While stating:
"Now spammers know who you are and where you are."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.spam/msg/39fc7f981af9744a
====================

Of course, the scummy, spam-friendly things Sun Tsu has done aren't
limited to just falsely accusing anti-spammers of being spammers, or
attacking other anti-spammers when they question those false
accusations, or changing what others write in your attributions of
their posts, or posting anti-spammer's email addresses in the clear in
an *admitted* attempt at causing their spam receival rate to increase,
or 'outing' an anti-spammer on a newsgroup known to have spammers
lurking on it... no, he's taken it to the next k00k level, and is
stalking anti-spammers:

========================================
Sun Fool stalking an anti-spammer to alt.spam and attacking him:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.spam/msg/39fc7f981af9744a
========================================

But, does Sun Tsu's spam-friendly actions end there? NO! Of course
not... he's going for the title of King-k00k! That's why he's also
been morphing:
========================================
Sun Fool morphing:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/9d...
From: banana_nanae [at]_ yahoo.co.uk (bananananae)

Sun Fool getting caught morphing:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/f9...
"Quit morphing for fsck's sake.

*RE-PLONK*"
========================================
Sun Fool getting caught morphing again:
"You don't you use a consistent From:. Why not? Are you intentionally
morphing?"
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?selm=ui7bp0tvqll4609eq4bi42tbqflnpc...
========================================

Let's see... how about making things up? Does Sun Tsu make things up,
then carry on as though the entire world believed him, even though
he's the *only* one spouting this crap? Why, yes, yes he does:
========================================
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/6e...

Yes, it's a claim that only Sun Tsu and one other have brought up, Sun
Tsu being the main proponent The only other proponent made
unattributed posts, and later retracted his statements due to an error
in which registrar he thought was being discussed:

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?as_q=%22Ronnie+Scelson%22+AND+Di...
==========
Giblet - USA Resident posted:
"I saw Directnic accept registrations with 8no* contact information at
all - all the WHOIS fields were blank.
but then again... I truly believe that Directnic is owned/controlled
by
Ronnie Scelson"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/9c...
Immediately debunked.

Here's a post that *appears* to be Jeff Higgins stating this:
"Many regular NANAE posters have felt that DiretNIC.com was more black
hat
than white hat. Some have even suggested that Ronnie Scelson either
hosts
his spam servers at DirectNIC.com or is involved with them in some
other
capacity."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/5e...

But we find that this is just a result of oversnipping, and the real
author is:

"Many regular NANAE posters have felt that DiretNIC.com was more black
hat
than white hat. Some have even suggested that Ronnie Scelson either
hosts
his spam servers at DirectNIC.com or is involved with them in some
other
capacity."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/6e...

Say, isn't that *YOUR* post that Jeff Higgins is attributing, Sun Tsu?
It is. Well, cross that one off the list...

Ahhh, now we get to the 'unattributed post' I previously mentioned. It
is
unattributed because Giblet - USA Resident states the following:
"It is highly suspected in many circles that DirectNic is controlled
by
career spammer Ronnie Scelson."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/9c...

Yet they provide no links to these 'many circles'. Indeed, they
provide no
link at all.

But wait... isn't the poster in the link directly above the same
poster as
in the first link... the link that was immediately debunked?
Hmmm... "Giblet - USA Resident"
Yes, yes it was.

And didn't Giblet - USA Resident later retract that statement? Why
yes, he
stated that he was mistaken in the company that he thought accepted
blank
registrations, which was the basis for his assertion.

"Actually, a correction - the one that I saw accept blank
registrations was
bestregistrar.com"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/21...
==========
========================================

So, above are just a very few examples (in proportion to the total
amount of retardation Sun Tsu has spewed into NANAE) of the fantasy
world Sun Tsu has set up for himself, in which he is always right,
everyone else is always wrong, he is smarter than everyone else,
everyone else is too stupid to fight spam and therefore must listen to
Sun Tsu, and if they don't, he attacks them as he's been attacking me
for nearly 6 months now.

Why hasn't he explained any of his abusive, spam-friendly behavior?
Because he knows he's wrong... he was wrong about the false
accusations he made against me, he was wrong to attack me, and he
continues to be wrong about everything he posts, yet is too proud and
stubborn to admit to making mistakes.

This is why we saw him turn into a whiny little child in the last two
weeks of 2004, after he'd been inextricably backed into a corner, with
his own words and his own evidence proving him wrong on everything
he'd posted for an entire two week period. He couldn't think of any
way to make himself look good based upon the inescapable weight of his
own evidence proving him wrong, so he tried to tell us all how it was
he who was the victim, that he's not the stalker, that he's not the
liar, that he's not the sleazebag with bad behavior. Of course, no one
believed him. Sun Tsu seems not to realize that actions speak louder
than words, and his actions simply scream "Abusive sleazy retarded
kook asshat!"

This is also why we see many of Sun Tsu's posts above removed from the
US Google Groups... he is attempting to cover up his sleazy behavior
by having some of his posts showing the worst of his behavior removed.
But, in his stupidity, he doesn't realize that Google is a worldwide
phenomenon, and all one must do is search on Google Groups based in
other countries.

You're really *not* very good at this, are you, little retarded
monkey? That stupidity rock you've been 'Sisyphusing' seems to be
rolling back over the top of you. No wonder, with each
stupidity-filled post you make, that stupidity rock gets a bit bigger.

--
When will the stalker k00k Sun Tsu / bananananae apologize for his
false accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.google.co.uk/groups?th=1bca4b08b5c23290&seekm=2f0f6d90.040806154 6.7fd0b...@posting.google.com#link23
http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=bR2rd.26861%24zx1.14305%40newssvr...
http://www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=Reewd.34672$zx1.24...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
(You'll have to kill-file him four times, he's posting with four email
accounts).