ok guys, I did get a domain name, i also got a hosting, installed WordPress, I found couple of Magazine Like Themes, and I am gonna start organizing it tonight,
any of you would like to be one of the first contributes, everyone edit their own section, you can import your own blog entries here, and we will try to market it as a single place for free Arab point of views, as I said all subjects will be allowed except for encouraging violence.
www.Furaty.com I think it is an interesting Name and it was that I was able to find not registered, and idea of slogan for that.
> ok guys, > I did get a domain name, i also got a hosting, installed WordPress, I > found couple of Magazine Like Themes, and I am gonna start organizing > it tonight,
> any of you would like to be one of the first contributes, everyone > edit their own section, you can import your own blog entries here, and > we will try to market it as a single place for free Arab point of > views, as I said all subjects will be allowed except for encouraging > violence.
> www.Furaty.com <http://www.furaty.com/> I think it is an interesting Name > and it was that I was > able to find not registered, and idea of slogan for that.
> 3asht 2eedak, and it all sounds very promising :)
> define violence though?!
> On Feb 11, 2008 7:23 PM, Laith <lnyou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ok guys, > > I did get a domain name, i also got a hosting, installed WordPress, I > > found couple of Magazine Like Themes, and I am gonna start organizing > > it tonight,
> > any of you would like to be one of the first contributes, everyone > > edit their own section, you can import your own blog entries here, and > > we will try to market it as a single place for free Arab point of > > views, as I said all subjects will be allowed except for encouraging > > violence.
> > www.Furaty.com I think it is an interesting Name and it was that I was > > able to find not registered, and idea of slogan for that.
why furat in particular? what does it indicate? these questions will follow us for ever and ever long after we are all dead haha :) i am having trouble thinking of it myself, let alone the poor gonna-be-confused readers.
maybe you can give us options? start this as a democratic process:) choosing the name of the site! how about that?:)
On Feb 11, 2008 7:47 PM, khalid jarrar <khalidjar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 3asht 2eedak, and it all sounds very promising :)
> define violence though?!
> On Feb 11, 2008 7:23 PM, Laith <lnyou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ok guys, > > I did get a domain name, i also got a hosting, installed WordPress, I > > found couple of Magazine Like Themes, and I am gonna start organizing > > it tonight,
> > any of you would like to be one of the first contributes, everyone > > edit their own section, you can import your own blog entries here, and > > we will try to market it as a single place for free Arab point of > > views, as I said all subjects will be allowed except for encouraging > > violence.
> > www.Furaty.com <http://www.furaty.com/> I think it is an interesting > > Name and it was that I was > > able to find not registered, and idea of slogan for that.
lets adjust that to: commit any acts that encourage hurting innocent civillians.
because, the first definition include prohibiting resistence, and i have to say that that wouldnt make it a free website but rather previosuly-directed one! i am one of people that support the resistence, as in using armed force in defneding one's self, family and properties, and land also. that could unfortunatly -and i mean that, not being sarcastic- harming any army that occupies my country. and that would be harming others! is that what you meant? or does my suggested adjusted definition more express what you meant? :)
On Feb 11, 2008 7:50 PM, Laith <lnyou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "What is not allowed is encourging people to commit any act that may > result in harming others"
> On Feb 11, 2008 12:47 PM, khalid jarrar <khalidjar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > 3asht 2eedak, and it all sounds very promising :)
> > define violence though?!
> > On Feb 11, 2008 7:23 PM, Laith <lnyou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > ok guys, > > > I did get a domain name, i also got a hosting, installed WordPress, I > > > found couple of Magazine Like Themes, and I am gonna start organizing > > > it tonight,
> > > any of you would like to be one of the first contributes, everyone > > > edit their own section, you can import your own blog entries here, and > > > we will try to market it as a single place for free Arab point of > > > views, as I said all subjects will be allowed except for encouraging > > > violence.
> > > www.Furaty.com <http://www.furaty.com/> I think it is an interesting > Name and it was that I was > > > able to find not registered, and idea of slogan for that.
> lets adjust that to: commit any acts that encourage hurting innocent > civillians.
> because, the first definition include prohibiting resistence, and i have > to say that that wouldnt make it a free website but rather > previosuly-directed one! i am one of people that support the resistence, as > in using armed force in defneding one's self, family and properties, and > land also. that could unfortunatly -and i mean that, not being sarcastic- > harming any army that occupies my country. and that would be harming others! > is that what you meant? or does my suggested adjusted definition > more express what you meant? :)
> On Feb 11, 2008 7:50 PM, Laith <lnyou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > thanks a lot khalid
> > "What is not allowed is encourging people to commit any act that may > > result in harming others"
> > On Feb 11, 2008 12:47 PM, khalid jarrar <khalidjar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > 3asht 2eedak, and it all sounds very promising :)
> > > define violence though?!
> > > On Feb 11, 2008 7:23 PM, Laith <lnyou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > ok guys, > > > > I did get a domain name, i also got a hosting, installed WordPress, > > I > > > > found couple of Magazine Like Themes, and I am gonna start > > organizing > > > > it tonight,
> > > > any of you would like to be one of the first contributes, everyone > > > > edit their own section, you can import your own blog entries here, > > and > > > > we will try to market it as a single place for free Arab point of > > > > views, as I said all subjects will be allowed except for encouraging > > > > violence.
> > > > www.Furaty.com <http://www.furaty.com/> I think it is an interesting > > Name and it was that I was > > > > able to find not registered, and idea of slogan for that.
in regard to the cost, , it will cost you guys nothing, I intened to get it up at this point on my own expensse, till it reach a point where it will be costly , at that point when i move it to a dedicated server, I may add advertisment to support it, I want it to be free for all users, over the long run in case it get popular and there will be decent adv revenue that cover the runing cost well, then will definetly switch to profit sharing with the main contrbuters.
Furat, I think I will play dictatorship rule here only with the name, It was very hard to find a name that is available as .com and also memorable, and easy to write with few letters, thats why its Furaty, and since its a river it mean a continous flood of information ;)
in regard to your argument about the resisteance, I dont think having multiple political views about anyone have any problem, in fact that what the website value will be, but anything that encourage a War or a fight will not be a content that represent point of view as much as lack of all other means, trust me the Arab world are full of places for people to encourage fighting, this will be a Peace solution and discussion place for all arab views, and a place for political argument, not like the other places when all solutions are associated with war.
I am not trying to supress views about resistance, buit I dont want the place to be another anger management platform, I want it to be a place for writers to share views, on politics, sports , Art , and as many other subjects as possible.
Laith
On Feb 11, 2008 12:51 PM, khalid jarrar <khalidjar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> why furat in particular? what does it indicate? these questions will follow > us for ever and ever long after we are all dead haha :) i am having trouble > thinking of it myself, let alone the poor gonna-be-confused readers.
> maybe you can give us options? start this as a democratic process:) choosing > the name of the site! how about that?:)
> On Feb 11, 2008 7:47 PM, khalid jarrar <khalidjar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 3asht 2eedak, and it all sounds very promising :)
> > define violence though?!
> > On Feb 11, 2008 7:23 PM, Laith <lnyou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > ok guys, > > > I did get a domain name, i also got a hosting, installed WordPress, I > > > found couple of Magazine Like Themes, and I am gonna start organizing > > > it tonight,
> > > any of you would like to be one of the first contributes, everyone > > > edit their own section, you can import your own blog entries here, and > > > we will try to market it as a single place for free Arab point of > > > views, as I said all subjects will be allowed except for encouraging > > > violence.
> > > www.Furaty.com I think it is an interesting Name and it was that I was > > > able to find not registered, and idea of slogan for that.
i still would like to participoate in the initial costs, if possible, i dont tink its fair at all for you to pay it alone.
using armed resistance, is a political view :) and its a thought that lets say at least well represented among people, i dont want to say widely supported because that would be contrivertial for the lack of statistic evidence, but i would say its widely spread, and as long is we can keep it all in a nice respective way ( i promise :D ) i dont think you have the right to sensor that at all :) otherwise it would very much look like an americanized attempt to marginize resitence, and people that support it, and at that point the website would lose its importance in representing all sides.
so no anger management, but a rational argument about the belief in the use of legitimate armed resistance as a political tool to get ones stolen rights, given that that resistence to be supported must respect human lives and properties and not involve harming any innocent civillians in any way but be directed particulary against he occupier! thats a legitimate right not only granted by a lot of religions, but also in international agreements.
ok for the lack of other choices -unless can be kind enough to find us a name that doesnt raise questions, and is short and easy to spell and read, which would be nice if we tried to find- we could go with dictatorshio in that, but otherwise in setting policies that prohibit any political views, specially one as spread, i would have to say no to that :) we have to start this right, in the right way and on the right bases, you either not put sencership at all or i will have to suggest my idea of what shoulnt be there too as you suggester your idea of what shouldnt be there, and then i will hve to say ok no armed resistence but only if also no political views that support the occupation in any way or shape. and that would be rediculious no? then everyone else have their own demands for their red lines too. you put ideas in the field, and let them prove themselves! if anything i would say there would be no limits at all, but if you insist i would say the limits are encouragin killing innocent civillians, and the use of foul language. those are two rules that are as broad as possible, give everyone hte freedom of expression, but keeps it civilized.
On Feb 11, 2008 8:40 PM, Laith <lnyou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> in regard to the cost, , it will cost you guys nothing, I intened to > get it up at this point on my own expensse, till it reach a point > where it will be costly , at that point when i move it to a dedicated > server, I may add advertisment to support it, I want it to be free for > all users, over the long run in case it get popular and there will be > decent adv revenue that cover the runing cost well, then will > definetly switch to profit sharing with the main contrbuters.
> Furat, I think I will play dictatorship rule here only with the name, > It was very hard to find a name that is available as .com and also > memorable, and easy to write with few letters, thats why its Furaty, > and since its a river it mean a continous flood of information ;)
> in regard to your argument about the resisteance, I dont think having > multiple political views about anyone have any problem, in fact that > what the website value will be, but anything that encourage a War or a > fight will not be a content that represent point of view as much as > lack of all other means, trust me the Arab world are full of places > for people to encourage fighting, this will be a Peace solution and > discussion place for all arab views, and a place for political > argument, not like the other places when all solutions are associated > with war.
> I am not trying to supress views about resistance, buit I dont want > the place to be another anger management platform, I want it to be a > place for writers to share views, on politics, sports , Art , and as > many other subjects as possible.
> Laith
> On Feb 11, 2008 12:51 PM, khalid jarrar <khalidjar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ummm furaty is confusing.
> > why furaty why not dijlawy?
> > why furat in particular? what does it indicate? these questions will > follow > > us for ever and ever long after we are all dead haha :) i am having > trouble > > thinking of it myself, let alone the poor gonna-be-confused readers.
> > maybe you can give us options? start this as a democratic process:) > choosing > > the name of the site! how about that?:)
> > On Feb 11, 2008 7:47 PM, khalid jarrar <khalidjar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 3asht 2eedak, and it all sounds very promising :)
> > > define violence though?!
> > > On Feb 11, 2008 7:23 PM, Laith <lnyou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > ok guys, > > > > I did get a domain name, i also got a hosting, installed WordPress, > I > > > > found couple of Magazine Like Themes, and I am gonna start > organizing > > > > it tonight,
> > > > any of you would like to be one of the first contributes, everyone > > > > edit their own section, you can import your own blog entries here, > and > > > > we will try to market it as a single place for free Arab point of > > > > views, as I said all subjects will be allowed except for encouraging > > > > violence.
> > > > www.Furaty.com <http://www.furaty.com/> I think it is an interesting > Name and it was that I was > > > > able to find not registered, and idea of slogan for that.
You have very good argument, I think I need to emphasize my argument in easer way to make it applicable, both sides that support the resistance and that support the occupation are allowed, no one will be against that, whats not accepted is ONLY lines that encourage hurting any other huan being ( civilian or not ) will not be allowed. like for example if lets assume somone for the execution of the X Defence Minster will be allowed to express the political reasons for that but not a call for executing him.
I dont intened to censor this project at all, in fact it will be self censored mostly, but I am more explaining the outlines that i would want it to be clear so that writers feel comfortable sharing their views. of course if you are going to have people who use bad words in their writing, readers will shy away from them one way or another. the concept will emerge over the long run as an approach for the writers too to see how developed their approach too.
On Feb 11, 2008 2:00 PM, khalid jarrar <khalidjar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i still would like to participoate in the initial costs, if possible, i dont > tink its fair at all for you to pay it alone.
> using armed resistance, is a political view :) and its a thought that lets > say at least well represented among people, i dont want to say widely > supported because that would be contrivertial for the lack of statistic > evidence, but i would say its widely spread, and as long is we can keep it > all in a nice respective way ( i promise :D ) i dont think you have the > right to sensor that at all :) otherwise it would very much look like an > americanized attempt to marginize resitence, and people that support it, and > at that point the website would lose its importance in representing all > sides.
> so no anger management, but a rational argument about the belief in the use > of legitimate armed resistance as a political tool to get ones stolen > rights, given that that resistence to be supported must respect human lives > and properties and not involve harming any innocent civillians in any way > but be directed particulary against he occupier! thats a legitimate right > not only granted by a lot of religions, but also in international > agreements.
> ok for the lack of other choices -unless can be kind enough to find us a > name that doesnt raise questions, and is short and easy to spell and read, > which would be nice if we tried to find- we could go with dictatorshio in > that, but otherwise in setting policies that prohibit any political views, > specially one as spread, i would have to say no to that :) we have to start > this right, in the right way and on the right bases, you either not put > sencership at all or i will have to suggest my idea of what shoulnt be there > too as you suggester your idea of what shouldnt be there, and then i will > hve to say ok no armed resistence but only if also no political views that > support the occupation in any way or shape. and that would be rediculious > no? then everyone else have their own demands for their red lines too. you > put ideas in the field, and let them prove themselves! if anything i would > say there would be no limits at all, but if you insist i would say the > limits are encouragin killing innocent civillians, and the use of foul > language. those are two rules that are as broad as possible, give everyone > hte freedom of expression, but keeps it civilized.
> On Feb 11, 2008 8:40 PM, Laith <lnyou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I will answer your questions one by one,
> > in regard to the cost, , it will cost you guys nothing, I intened to > > get it up at this point on my own expensse, till it reach a point > > where it will be costly , at that point when i move it to a dedicated > > server, I may add advertisment to support it, I want it to be free for > > all users, over the long run in case it get popular and there will be > > decent adv revenue that cover the runing cost well, then will > > definetly switch to profit sharing with the main contrbuters.
> > Furat, I think I will play dictatorship rule here only with the name, > > It was very hard to find a name that is available as .com and also > > memorable, and easy to write with few letters, thats why its Furaty, > > and since its a river it mean a continous flood of information ;)
> > in regard to your argument about the resisteance, I dont think having > > multiple political views about anyone have any problem, in fact that > > what the website value will be, but anything that encourage a War or a > > fight will not be a content that represent point of view as much as > > lack of all other means, trust me the Arab world are full of places > > for people to encourage fighting, this will be a Peace solution and > > discussion place for all arab views, and a place for political > > argument, not like the other places when all solutions are associated > > with war.
> > I am not trying to supress views about resistance, buit I dont want > > the place to be another anger management platform, I want it to be a > > place for writers to share views, on politics, sports , Art , and as > > many other subjects as possible.
> > Laith
> > On Feb 11, 2008 12:51 PM, khalid jarrar <khalidjar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > ummm furaty is confusing.
> > > why furaty why not dijlawy?
> > > why furat in particular? what does it indicate? these questions will > follow > > > us for ever and ever long after we are all dead haha :) i am having > trouble > > > thinking of it myself, let alone the poor gonna-be-confused readers.
> > > maybe you can give us options? start this as a democratic process:) > choosing > > > the name of the site! how about that?:)
> > > On Feb 11, 2008 7:47 PM, khalid jarrar <khalidjar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > 3asht 2eedak, and it all sounds very promising :)
> > > > define violence though?!
> > > > On Feb 11, 2008 7:23 PM, Laith <lnyou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > ok guys, > > > > > I did get a domain name, i also got a hosting, installed WordPress, > I > > > > > found couple of Magazine Like Themes, and I am gonna start > organizing > > > > > it tonight,
> > > > > any of you would like to be one of the first contributes, everyone > > > > > edit their own section, you can import your own blog entries here, > and > > > > > we will try to market it as a single place for free Arab point of > > > > > views, as I said all subjects will be allowed except for encouraging > > > > > violence.
> > > > > www.Furaty.com I think it is an interesting Name and it was that I > was > > > > > able to find not registered, and idea of slogan for that.
