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  <title type="text">Django developers Google Group</title>
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  Discussion group for Django developers. This group is used for discussion of developing Django itself, not user questions; Please use django-users for issues regarding using the framework, questions for the Django user community outreach, etc.
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  <updated>2008-08-30T15:50:12Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>daonb</name>
  <email>bennyd...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-08-30T15:50:12Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/5e9d28a878091346/a21de2e80b7cec10?show_docid=a21de2e80b7cec10</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/5e9d28a878091346/a21de2e80b7cec10?show_docid=a21de2e80b7cec10"/>
  <title type="text">Re: A (last-minute) compromise on {% url %}</title>
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  +1 for a sweet feature.
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  <author>
  <name>chris.moffitt@gmail.com</name>
  <email>chris.moff...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-08-30T14:48:33Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/47c33595eb35ab17/e9f96d8d9b5c3303?show_docid=e9f96d8d9b5c3303</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/47c33595eb35ab17/e9f96d8d9b5c3303?show_docid=e9f96d8d9b5c3303"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Working on comments</title>
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  Hey Bruce, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Reading between the lines, I think you meant to post this in Satchmo- &lt;br&gt; dev ;) Nonetheless, this is good news! &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-Chris
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Karen Tracey</name>
  <email>kmtra...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-08-30T12:40:33Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/58016bf56b5a3da3/e5586ae10ad6e733?show_docid=e5586ae10ad6e733</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/58016bf56b5a3da3/e5586ae10ad6e733?show_docid=e5586ae10ad6e733"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Does CharField still required max_length? Or is it a bug?</title>
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  I don&#39;t believe this is correct. A CharField needs a max_length parameter &lt;br&gt; to pass validation. You may not need it for issuing test queries, etc. in a &lt;br&gt; manage.py shell, but it is still needed in general, as documented: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/db/models/#field-options&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; Karen &lt;br&gt; p.s. This conversation really belongs on django-users, please follow up
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>M N Islam Shihan</name>
  <email>mnis4...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-08-30T04:56:39Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/58016bf56b5a3da3/f817d47c02f81b59?show_docid=f817d47c02f81b59</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/58016bf56b5a3da3/f817d47c02f81b59?show_docid=f817d47c02f81b59"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Does CharField still required max_length? Or is it a bug?</title>
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  Yes, it has been made optional with this syntax class CharField(* &lt;br&gt; max_length=None*[, ***options*]) &lt;br&gt; This is true for all other model fields as well that were expecting &lt;br&gt; max_length parameter. &lt;br&gt; Regards, &lt;br&gt; Shihan
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  <author>
  <name>Bruce Kroeze</name>
  <email>bkro...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-08-30T06:40:39Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/47c33595eb35ab17/b8b1d9b9183f19db?show_docid=b8b1d9b9183f19db</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/47c33595eb35ab17/b8b1d9b9183f19db?show_docid=b8b1d9b9183f19db"/>
  <title type="text">Working on comments</title>
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  I&#39;m mostly through with a drop-in replacement for the old comments, using &lt;br&gt; the new Comment system and signals. It should be slick. &lt;br&gt; When it tests out, I&#39;ll also commit the new save() parameters mentioned in &lt;br&gt; the backwards-incompatible page, and we should be again compatible with the &lt;br&gt; latest Django trunk.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>guoqiang qian</name>
  <email>gonef...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-08-30T04:49:20Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/58016bf56b5a3da3/e2386e9f881b993c?show_docid=e2386e9f881b993c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/58016bf56b5a3da3/e2386e9f881b993c?show_docid=e2386e9f881b993c"/>
  <title type="text">Does CharField still required max_length? Or is it a bug?</title>
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  hi,all &lt;br&gt; I use django beta2 and find that model&#39;s charfield doesn&#39;t require &lt;br&gt; max_length parameter anymore. Is there any thing wrong?
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  <author>
  <name>Martin Diers</name>
  <email>mar...@diers.us</email>
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  <updated>2008-08-29T20:33:53Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/300d8ec9d040c06a/1532c972074e1253?show_docid=1532c972074e1253</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/300d8ec9d040c06a/1532c972074e1253?show_docid=1532c972074e1253"/>
  <title type="text">Re: 500 error if django run in scgi mode(fcgi is ok)</title>
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  If you want a response, you will need to ask this on the django-users &lt;br&gt; list. This list is for the discussion of developing the Django &lt;br&gt; framework itself.
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  <author>
  <name>Jannis Leidel</name>
  <email>jan...@leidel.info</email>
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  <updated>2008-08-29T19:07:35Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/5e9d28a878091346/bfe01f207fe08de5?show_docid=bfe01f207fe08de5</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/5e9d28a878091346/bfe01f207fe08de5?show_docid=bfe01f207fe08de5"/>
  <title type="text">Re: A (last-minute) compromise on {% url %}</title>
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  Am 29.08.2008 um 17:18 schrieb Jacob Kaplan-Moss: &lt;br&gt; Hell, no! That&#39;s perfect and also works with blocktrans. &lt;br&gt; ..and let&#39;s us kill that captureas in Pinax, yay! &lt;br&gt; Cheers, &lt;br&gt; Jannis
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Malcolm Tredinnick</name>
  <email>malc...@pointy-stick.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-08-29T18:02:56Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/3bc47fa32f13b87f/79f038de94645704?show_docid=79f038de94645704</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/3bc47fa32f13b87f/79f038de94645704?show_docid=79f038de94645704"/>
  <title type="text">Re: queryset set difference</title>
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  And because I wasn&#39;t concentrating about which list I was reading, here &lt;br&gt; comes the obligatory statement: &lt;br&gt; Please take any follow-ups to django-users. This mailing list is &lt;br&gt; for the internal development of Django itself. &amp;quot;How to use&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; questions should go to the django-users mailing list.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Malcolm Tredinnick</name>
  <email>malc...@pointy-stick.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-08-29T18:00:37Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/3bc47fa32f13b87f/6f2b2d1cd1f15a22?show_docid=6f2b2d1cd1f15a22</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/3bc47fa32f13b87f/6f2b2d1cd1f15a22?show_docid=6f2b2d1cd1f15a22"/>
  <title type="text">Re: queryset set difference</title>
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  If they already exist as querysets, the set difference is the way to go. &lt;br&gt; There&#39;s probably no need to turn it back into a list at the end, since &lt;br&gt; Python&#39;s sets are iterable containers. It depends what you want to do &lt;br&gt; with it afterwards. &lt;br&gt; However, if you know the filters you are applying, you can get the
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>ryan</name>
  <email>cekan...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-08-29T17:51:29Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/3bc47fa32f13b87f/9e113be0d8e0aa6e?show_docid=9e113be0d8e0aa6e"/>
  <title type="text">queryset set difference</title>
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  I have 2 querysets q1 and q2. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I want q3 = q2-q1, where q3 is a queryset object and contains only the &lt;br&gt; objects in q2 that are not in q1. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Is there built in support for this operation? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;The only thing I can think to do is: &lt;br&gt; list( set(q2) - set(q1) ) &lt;br&gt; It doesn&#39;t return a queryset, but I can deal with it if there&#39;s no
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Eduardo O. Padoan</name>
  <email>eduardo.pad...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-08-29T15:53:28Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/5e9d28a878091346/78ba2683c462c620?show_docid=78ba2683c462c620</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/5e9d28a878091346/78ba2683c462c620?show_docid=78ba2683c462c620"/>
  <title type="text">Re: A (last-minute) compromise on {% url %}</title>
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  +1 -- Pinax could deprecate {% captureas %} with this feature. Seems &lt;br&gt; like a non-intentional pro :)
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>David Larlet</name>
  <email>lar...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-08-29T15:43:48Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/5e9d28a878091346/454017eb2277b59f?show_docid=454017eb2277b59f</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/5e9d28a878091346/454017eb2277b59f?show_docid=454017eb2277b59f"/>
  <title type="text">Re: A (last-minute) compromise on {% url %}</title>
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  Le 29 août 08 à 17:18, Jacob Kaplan-Moss a écrit : &lt;br&gt; +1 for this, before I test if someone already knows the answer, is it &lt;br&gt; possible to use this var in blocktrans? &lt;br&gt; {% url args as myurl %} &lt;br&gt; {% blocktrans %} &lt;br&gt; foo &amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;{{ myurl }}&amp;quot;&amp;gt;baz&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; {% endblocktrans %} &lt;br&gt; That&#39;s potentially the best solution for the endless discussion about
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jacob Kaplan-Moss</name>
  <email>jacob.kaplanm...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-08-29T15:18:49Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/5e9d28a878091346/6ce26cfc0f5cd8dc?show_docid=6ce26cfc0f5cd8dc</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/5e9d28a878091346/6ce26cfc0f5cd8dc?show_docid=6ce26cfc0f5cd8dc"/>
  <title type="text">A (last-minute) compromise on {% url %}</title>
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  Hi folks -- &lt;br&gt; While working on some URL-related issues, I ran across a pretty big &lt;br&gt; problem with having ``{% url %}`` propagate ``NoReverseMatch`` up into &lt;br&gt; the templates: if it does that, there&#39;s no way to have &amp;quot;optional&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; links. The perfect example is #7810 and the admin docs: if the URLs &lt;br&gt; for the admin doc views are installed, the admin should show a
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jacob Kaplan-Moss</name>
  <email>jacob.kaplanm...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-08-29T14:16:55Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/a218b0a99ff952d5/7ffdafadec4d711b?show_docid=7ffdafadec4d711b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/a218b0a99ff952d5/7ffdafadec4d711b?show_docid=7ffdafadec4d711b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Recover/Reset password on code.djangoproject.com</title>
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  &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.djangoproject.com/accounts/password/change/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; Jacob
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