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Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
From: Peter Seibel <pe...@gigamonkeys.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:32:01 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jun 23 2005 11:32 pm
Subject: Re: ILC2005: McCarthy denounces Common Lisp, "Lisp", XML, and Rahul
Pascal Costanza <p...@p-cos.net> writes: As did Baker, or rather a dozen or so good points--can't wait until > Kenny Tilton wrote: >> [apologies if this has materialised in similar form or does so soon >> unbeknownst to me, but from where I sit it appears Google ate a >> similar report posted yesterday via google groups.] >> Dr. McCarthy joined with Henry Baker, his predecessor at the >> microphone, in bemoaning the standardization of Common Lisp as >> stultifying if not mortifying, in that it ended innovation. > As much as I like Common Lisp, I think he has a point here. his full slidedeck is available. >> When rahul defended standardization as allowing his code to run ten While concuring with Pascal that that was a weird moment (and it >> years from now, McCarthy indicated that (paraphrasing) by the looks >> of Rahul it was unlikely he would produce code that anyone would >> want to run ten years from now.* > This was one of the most bizarre moments I have experienced ever, wasn't just Rahul who tried to convince McCarthy that the standard was a good thing), I'd like to point out that I don't think McCarthy was insulting Rahul--merely misunderstanding him. From where I was sitting it sounded like Rahul started his comment by saying something along the lines of, "I don't care about standardization because it's going to ensure that code that was written 20 years ago still runs today ...". In that he was riffing off a previously comment from someone else in the audience. He went on to say that the reason he was glad there was a standard was because it meant there were multiple implementations *today* that could all run his code, each with different strengths and weaknesses. However McCarthy appeared to have heard him to say that he did care about having code from 20 years ago that ran today and said that based on Rahul's appearance, it didn't seem that he could have any code from 20 years ago that he'd need to run today, i.e. Rahul is too young. A slight dig, perhaps but not actually an insult. Just didn't want folks to think that McCarthy went out of his way to be rude to folks. -Peter -- You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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