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Carl Shapiro  
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 More options Jun 24 2005, 11:16 pm
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
From: Carl Shapiro <cshapiro+s...@panix.com>
Date: 24 Jun 2005 23:16:05 -0400
Local: Fri, Jun 24 2005 11:16 pm
Subject: Re: ILC 2005: Microsoft Demands Surrender, CL Says It Has Not Yet Begun to Fight

Kenny Tilton <ktil...@nyc.rr.com> writes:
> This correspondent's chin hit the floor when he realized this speaker
> was from Microsoft:
>     http://pdcbloggers.net/Question_and_Answer/PNL02/Patrick_Dussud.category

FYI, this information has been posted on the conference website for
quite some time.

http://international-lisp-conference.org/speakers.html#patrick_dussud

> Mr. Dussud was favored with one of the closing plenary sessions of the
> conference, and used it to suggest Common Lisp cripple itself in
> various ways (help me, someone: static typing is all I remember) so it
> could have the honor of running on Microsoft's CLR. Well, OK, the
> motivation would be in the title of the paper "Re-inventing Lisp for
> Ubiquity".

I think you are missing the point.  It is difficult to integrate Lisp
into an engineering environment where programmers are writing or
integrating software written in many different languages.  The
suggested changes would make Lisp more easily hosted on top of a
contemporary runtime like the JVM or the CLR, in turn making it easier
to deliver the object code of applications written in Lisp.  If you do
not think Lisp has a problem delivering applications, ask yourself why
Lisp completely missed the boat on component software.

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