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Christopher C. Stacy

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From: cst...@news.dtpq.com (Christopher C. Stacy)

Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:44:48 GMT

Local: Mon, Jan 31 2005 4:44 pm

Subject: Re: History of CLIM?

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Paolo Amoroso <amor...@mclink.it> writes:
> Peter Seibel <pe...@javamonkey.com> writes:

> > Can someone point me to a history of CLIM? I gather that it was

> Links to most of the online documentation on CLIM are available at:

> CLIM
> http://www.cliki.net/CLIM

> For historical information I suggest that you check the CLIM mailing
> list archives, at least the ones from 1990 to 1992, which was the time
> around which CLIM was being designed and in transition from version 1
> to 2. The archives from 1996 are also a useful resource for later
> developments--or lack thereof.

> Those archives are a rich source of material on CLIM design decisions,
> the systems it was influenced by, vendor involvement, user acceptance
> and needs, etc. You will also find some information on the history of
> Lisp (e.g. the creation of ALU).

> You may also contact Scott McKay, John Aspinall or other CLIM
> designers.

> > somewhat of a joint venture of different Lisp vendors from the days
> > when "Lisp vendors" included folks like Symbolics. Was it based on the

> The original consortium behind CLIM was called "International Lisp
> Associates".

I don't recall ILA having anything to do with CLIM particularly.
They did internationalization (mostly Japanese) consulting.

The way I remember it, it was a mainly a matter of Symbolics
and Xerox getting together. But it was a long time ago, so I
could easily have forgotten.

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