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Tiernan

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From: jkl...@nai.net (Tiernan)

Date: 1996/02/10

Subject: Re: Vampyr and elves

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yu145...@yorku.ca (Vandale*&*) verily did say unto All:

>In article <DMC7Gy....@freenet.carleton.ca>, be...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Cliff Goodman) says:
>> (jk0...@acad.drake.edu) writes:
>>> What, if any, is the traditional relationship between
>>> the vampyr and elves? Is it benevolent, malevolent, indifferent, or is there
>>> any relatioship at all in the mythologies?
>>> [snipples]
>>> John

>>Good darned question!
>>Well, historically, I am told that vampyres have often been seen as
>>members of the Unseelie court involved in preying on humans and certain
>>other folk. Thus some fae have allied with vampyres... some have hunted
>>them. Depends on the individuals in question.
>It was always my understanding that the faeriekind and the vampyres
>were actually of the same ilk (different branches of the family tree).
>I know plenty of faeriekinds who prey on humans...

Traditionally, the Wild Hunt is also affiliated with the Seelie Courts
although there is the odd Unseelie Hunter. One is a Hunter within
one's spirit, not one's court affiliations. There was a time, to be
honest, when I and my kind would have hunted true vamps did we find
them...which I must admit, if I do know any they have not outed
themselves to me, and I never pry. But in modern times the old court
affiliations are becoming blurred. Personally, I do not hunt vamps
and I consider them friends and Otherkin as well, Otherkin being the
general term by which fae folke refer to themselves.

>>Vampyres quickly learned NOT to sup on most otherkin. Fae blood can do
>>really nasty things to a vampyre, and fae energies... particularly
>>glamour, can mess up a psyvamp like you wouldn't believe. This is not
>>always true, but is generally the norm.
>Actually, Dreamers, who are half-mortal, are very sought-after by the
>original purebloods. And we are ill-equipped to fight 'em off.

*smile* Imagine a psivamp fool enough to leech an elf. Vandale, one
day dearest we shall have to teach you trapshields.

>>These days... we get along. We're few and far between and there's safety
>>and comfort in numbers (regardless of how the vampyres value their
>>solitude and claim they need no one... there is still some value to this
>>point of view).
>Yes, the Vampyre and the Faerie are cousin and sibling both.

*nods*

>>I think it's still on a person by person basis, only more so. There is, at
>>the least, tolerance and acceptance of each other by both societies.
>>Recognition. Acknowledgement of honour and worth. And both groups have
>>their... "monsters".

>>Me, I think most of 'em are fun to be around.
>>Entertaining sorts.
>You said it, elvish one. If little else, vampies and otherkind have
>their extreme eccentricity in common. ;)

I think what I find resonates with me about vampyres is the cheerful
darkness, if that makes sense. A lot of people both magickal and
mundane assume walking a dark path mean you must be evil, or sombre,
or both. It doesn't, and the vampyres understand that the darker
paths are simply other expressions of the nature of intelligent living
beings.

Too, some things are considered *dark* today that were not always
considered dark. Death, for example, as an object of humor. In our
society a morbid sense of humor is looked upon with suspicion because
we fear death. But there was a time when death was accepted as
casually as taxes are today, and considered a part of the Wheel.

>>But that's just me.
>>Th' Elf
>You and your Dreamer, elvish one.
>-little o (aka Van*&*)

Tiernan

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