Recovery Without the "Anticult"--It Can Be Done! (was ARS going downhill, etc...) - alt.support.ex-cult

Message from discussion Recovery Without the "Anticult"--It Can Be Done! (was ARS going downhill, etc...)

Peter McDermott

More options Aug 2 1997, 3:00 am

Newsgroups: alt.support.ex-cult, alt.religion.scientology, alt.cult.maharaji

From: n...@petermc.demon.co.uk (Peter McDermott)

Date: 1997/08/02

Subject: Re: Recovery Without the "Anticult"--It Can Be Done! (was ARS going downhill, etc...)

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In article <33e56cc6.13488...@snews.zippo.com>,
inF...@super.zippo.com (Rev. Dennis Erlich) wrote:

>>I have a question here. Is anyone aware of anybody who held a position
>>of authority in the cult who left solely because they came to
>>recognize that it was a scam, rather than because they were fucked
>>over or mistreated in some way?

> I left mainly because of the former, but it occurred after the
>mistreatment occurred and was not dealt with according to scieno
>policy.

> That's when I knew it was a scam.

OK, but my point in asking this was if you *were* capable of
working out that it was a scam, and of recognizing that your
mistreatment was mistreatment, is it really accurate to call
it 'mind control'.

I'm *not* trying to argue that they aren't liars, that the
organization isn't corrupt, and that they don't spend a
phenomenal amount of time and energy in attempting to shape the
way that you think. I know that they do. I also believe that
their primary reason for doing this is to gain more money and
more power for themselves, and this is unquestionably a 'bad
thing(tm)'

But I do think the term mind control is misleading in the sense
that it implies that they somehow have control over your mind,
and if this were the case, you (Dennis) would surely still be
in there, eating beans and rice and praying for the deprogrammers
or come get you?

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