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Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology, soc.culture.german, alt.support.ex-cult
From: b...@arcadis.be (Bernie)
Date: 1997/08/02
Subject: Re: Case study: Kathleen Wilson
mart...@islandnet.com (Martin Hunt) wrote in article >In article <3476521b.496634...@snews.zippo.com>, b...@arcadis.be (Bernie) wrote: The Bavarian measure doesn't speak about "continued >>n...@petermc.demon.co.uk (Peter McDermott) wrote in article <B007E49596681B8...@0.0.0.0>: >>>So it isn't true that these people are discriminated against. >>>The truth is that their continued involvement in the cult >>>shows that they are either conscious of these crimes and >>>therefore corrupt, or unconscious of them, and therefore >>>stupid. Either quality is enough to reasonably debar someone >>>from such employment. >>Do you really think that every members are willfully >>participating in the corrupt actions of the COS? Is it your >>experience that Scientologists are usually stupid people? What >>about ex-Scn? Do think Dennis Erlich, Martin Hunt, Monica >>Pignotti, Joe Harrington, are stupid people? >Bernie, you clueless asshole, there was no "continued >involvement" on my part. involvement", only whether one is or not a Scientologist, or using LRH tech. >I left. Why don't this morons They have other reasons, other interpretations and other >who have *seen* the facts leave, also? I'll put my vote >on massive stupidity or wilful ignorance. They've been >*told* what Hubbard's grades in school were, and they >still quack quack quack on about how wonderful "Study >tech" is. They've *read* BFM, some of them, and they're >*still* in the fucking cult! circumstances than yours or mine. This doesn't make them more or less stupid. >I call that fucking clueless! Stupid! Moronic! If reading Most of these are so full of distorted information and so full >Atack's book and Miller's book and all the documents on the >web about overboarding, Hubbard' rampant drug use, Lisa's >death, and a million other things doesn't crack their >mind, there's nothing there to crack. of irrational reactions, such as the one you display in this post, that it does not have any credibility in their eyes. >My plea was never related to intelligence; it was related You can be ignorant while intelligent. Actually, I consider that >to ignorance. the highest form of intelligence is to be aware of one's ignorance, something you are obviously far to achieve. You are so full of your many absolute certainties that it often makes you sound stupid, something which I don't think you are. >They fucking lied to me about every little Which is a good illustration of the mistaken way you assess your >thing, and it was stupid of me not to see though their >lies as easily as I see through yours and Diane's and the >other assholes here experience with the cult. Your arguments against Diane have been amongst the most silly ones (apart those from the GluGlu Bird) I was given to read. And as far as I go, can you quote a single lie I made? Or is it just one of your many generalizations and near insane rantings fit? >who can't see the forest for the trees, They don't see "the truth", Martin. That's cultists who believe >but it is *infinitely* more stupid of these cultists to >stay in the fucking cult after *learning* the truth, *seeing* >it everywhere, and *still* not getting a fucking clue. they have *the* truth and that everyone else who don't think along their way are stupid, mean, or deluded. Scieno just have a different interpretations than those outside the group. But this doesn't mean that it's a fixed and permanent viewpoint (unlike many of the anti-cultists). >Please quit misusing my name in this manner to oppose I suggested that, as an ex-member currently posting, you may not >Peter; be stupid. Is that "misusing" your name? Oh, I am sorry. And you really have a gall to complain about "abuses" of your >I've had it out with him long before you were here, This post doesn't leave place for an inch of doubt about that. >and settled it in a lengthy and intelligent and honest debate... >something which does not happen on this newsgroup any more Yea, people you can't easily dismiss or intimidate, who actually >with stupid little fucks like you crawling about all over >it. argue with others and take issue on anti-cult member's exaggerations, distortions and overall cultic behavior. Annoying, eh? I understand how this must be a real frustration for you and the likes of Erlich. >Why don't you get your shit together, Bernie? You're fucked Really? On what are you basing yourself? Can you quote anything >in the head by Scientology right now, today, this instant. I said that will demonstrate that? Or is it just some more gratuitous assertions and wishful thinking of yours? No doubt a most convincing illustration of "*learning* the truth, *seeing* it everywhere". I am crushed. >Why don't you kick that shit out of your head? Aren't you My head is considerably clearer than yours, Martin. >able to or what? >Scientology is bullshit, Bernie; pure Oh, thank you, Martin. *Now* I understand. >fucking bullshit. It's hollow, empty, soulless crap. >People who cling to it become hollow, shallow, empty and meaningless, So you say. >so chuck it the fuck out of your brain, or be fucked. Don't I have an option? >Incredibly sincerely, Sincerely, Martin. To step back an reflect somewhat on your many >martin. sloppy beliefs and quick statements would do you an awful good, and may even bring your credibility scale a bit higher in this newsgroup. I am convinced you can do better than that. >Following-up to yourself, you little puke? *Bad* sign. Bernie, LOL! Thanks, Martin. You really are my funny clown. I like you. >take your vomit and your abuse of my name and shove it *deep* >up your asshole, where it belongs, you sick little fuckwit. >Digest this: <one-finger salute> And, please, don't forget to >FOAD, asswipe. Bernie You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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