The lame-duck says he believes in free speech but doesn't object in the least as the hecklers are removed, possibly arrested, from the grounds of Monticello. Sure, they were disrupting his Independence Day speech but then that's the issue. If freedom of speech is what it was about, he would have let them continue to heckle him.
But then, as you've all heard so many times before, Dubya is unquestionably the worst president in history.
luxor127...@gmail.com wrote in news:bde98db5-7b2d-4436-8fc1- 1bb9523bb...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
> The lame-duck says he believes in free speech but doesn't object in > the least as the hecklers are removed, possibly arrested, from the > grounds of Monticello. Sure, they were disrupting his Independence > Day speech but then that's the issue. If freedom of speech is what it > was about, he would have let them continue to heckle him.
I'm sure McDuck could clarify, but there are limits to free speech, especially with regards to disrupting a public gathering. If they were arrested, it could be for disturbing the peace, attempting to incite a riot or whatever.
> But then, as you've all heard so many times before, Dubya is > unquestionably the worst president in history.
No argument there.
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On Jul 5, 12:19 pm, OceanView <F...@chance.org> wrote:
> luxor127...@gmail.com wrote in news:bde98db5-7b2d-4436-8fc1- > 1bb9523bb...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
> > The lame-duck says he believes in free speech but doesn't object in > > the least as the hecklers are removed, possibly arrested, from the > > grounds of Monticello. Sure, they were disrupting his Independence > > Day speech but then that's the issue. If freedom of speech is what it > > was about, he would have let them continue to heckle him.
> I'm sure McDuck could clarify, but there are limits to free speech, > especially with regards to disrupting a public gathering. If they were > arrested, it could be for disturbing the peace, attempting to incite a > riot or whatever.
I agree with you completely. Perhaps you didn't watch the video? As a heckler repeatedly labeled him with shouts of "War Criminal", Dubya responded, saying, "We believe in freedom of speech in the United States of America." I might believe his freedom of speech claim if that were the issue or if he hadn't so consistently abused the US Constitution so many times during his administration.
> The lame-duck says he believes in free speech but doesn't object in > the least as the hecklers are removed, possibly arrested, from the > grounds of Monticello. Sure, they were disrupting his Independence > Day speech but then that's the issue. If freedom of speech is what it > was about, he would have let them continue to heckle him.
> But then, as you've all heard so many times before, Dubya is > unquestionably the worst president in history.
Only an idiot or someone who can't remember Jimmy Carter would say that. You are surely an idiot if you think shouting down any politician's speech is okay. It is disturbing the peace. The people come to see the politician, not some loudmouthed asshole. So how much was your bail?
> On Jul 5, 11:53 am, luxor127...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The lame-duck says he believes in free speech but doesn't object in > > the least as the hecklers are removed, possibly arrested, from the > > grounds of Monticello. Sure, they were disrupting his Independence > > Day speech but then that's the issue. If freedom of speech is what it > > was about, he would have let them continue to heckle him.
> > But then, as you've all heard so many times before, Dubya is > > unquestionably the worst president in history.
> Only an idiot or someone who can't remember Jimmy Carter would say > that. You are surely an idiot if you think shouting down any > politician's speech is okay. It is disturbing the peace. The people > come to see the politician, not some loudmouthed asshole. So how much > was your bail?
Can you read? I never once suggested that it was okay. I am, however, taking issue with Dubya intoning freedom of speech as the hecklers were being removed. As far as Jimmy Carter is concerned ... no one ever accused Carter of throwing the US Constitution in the toilet.