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luxor127...@gmail.com  
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 More options Jul 5, 2:53 pm
Newsgroups: alt.sports.baseball.ny-yankees, alt.sports.baseball.bos-redsox
From: luxor127...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:53:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 2:53 pm
Subject: Dubya "has brought fascism to our shores"
The lame-duck says he believes in free speech but doesn't object in
the least as the hecklers are removed, possibly arrested, from the
grounds of Monticello.  Sure, they were disrupting his Independence
Day speech but then that's the issue.  If freedom of speech is what it
was about, he would have let them continue to heckle him.

But then, as you've all heard so many times before, Dubya is
unquestionably the worst president in history.


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 More options Jul 5, 3:19 pm
Newsgroups: alt.sports.baseball.ny-yankees, alt.sports.baseball.bos-redsox
From: OceanView <F...@chance.org>
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 21:19:37 +0200 (CEST)
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: Dubya "has brought fascism to our shores"
luxor127...@gmail.com wrote in news:bde98db5-7b2d-4436-8fc1-
1bb9523bb...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

> The lame-duck says he believes in free speech but doesn't object in
> the least as the hecklers are removed, possibly arrested, from the
> grounds of Monticello.  Sure, they were disrupting his Independence
> Day speech but then that's the issue.  If freedom of speech is what it
> was about, he would have let them continue to heckle him.

I'm sure McDuck could clarify, but there are limits to free speech,
especially with regards to disrupting a public gathering.  If they were
arrested, it could be for disturbing the peace, attempting to incite a
riot or whatever.

> But then, as you've all heard so many times before, Dubya is
> unquestionably the worst president in history.

No argument there.

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 More options Jul 5, 3:47 pm
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From: luxor127...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:47:14 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 3:47 pm
Subject: Re: Dubya "has brought fascism to our shores"
On Jul 5, 12:19 pm, OceanView <F...@chance.org> wrote:

> luxor127...@gmail.com wrote in news:bde98db5-7b2d-4436-8fc1-
> 1bb9523bb...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

> > The lame-duck says he believes in free speech but doesn't object in
> > the least as the hecklers are removed, possibly arrested, from the
> > grounds of Monticello.  Sure, they were disrupting his Independence
> > Day speech but then that's the issue.  If freedom of speech is what it
> > was about, he would have let them continue to heckle him.

> I'm sure McDuck could clarify, but there are limits to free speech,
> especially with regards to disrupting a public gathering.  If they were
> arrested, it could be for disturbing the peace, attempting to incite a
> riot or whatever.

I agree with you completely.  Perhaps you didn't watch the video?  As
a heckler repeatedly labeled him with shouts of "War Criminal", Dubya
responded, saying, "We believe in freedom of speech in the United
States of America."  I might believe his freedom of speech claim if
that were the issue or if he hadn't so consistently abused the US
Constitution so many times during his administration.


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 More options Jul 5, 4:14 pm
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From: Gnork <gn...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:14:39 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 4:14 pm
Subject: Re: Dubya "has brought fascism to our shores"
On Jul 5, 11:53 am, luxor127...@gmail.com wrote:

> The lame-duck says he believes in free speech but doesn't object in
> the least as the hecklers are removed, possibly arrested, from the
> grounds of Monticello.  Sure, they were disrupting his Independence
> Day speech but then that's the issue.  If freedom of speech is what it
> was about, he would have let them continue to heckle him.

> But then, as you've all heard so many times before, Dubya is
> unquestionably the worst president in history.

Only an idiot or someone who can't remember Jimmy Carter would say
that. You are surely an idiot if you think shouting down any
politician's speech is okay. It is disturbing the peace. The people
come to see the politician, not some loudmouthed asshole. So how much
was your bail?

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(1 user)  More options Jul 5, 4:24 pm
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From: luxor127...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:24:38 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 4:24 pm
Subject: Re: Dubya "has brought fascism to our shores"
On Jul 5, 1:14 pm, Gnork <gn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Can you read?  I never once suggested that it was okay.  I am,
however, taking issue with Dubya intoning freedom of speech as the
hecklers were being removed.  As far as Jimmy Carter is concerned ...
no one ever accused Carter of throwing the US Constitution in the
toilet.

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 More options Jul 9, 5:22 pm
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From: Cheektowagad...@webtv.net (Larry)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 17:22:19 -0400
Local: Wed, Jul 9 2008 5:22 pm
Subject: Re: Dubya "has brought fascism to our shores"
The current govt believes in free speech,as long as you are in agreement
with them,if not,you are labeled as unpatriotic.

New York Yankees... # 1.


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