Of course I have credibility... just not with you. BTW, I'm not accusing
Stacey of lying, I'm merely suggesting she has edited the actual events
in whatever fashion she deemed appropriate to support her claims.

Yikes! A *witch*! But hang in there Granny, if I'm an idiot then you
have to be a droid. Them's the rules.

What you've seen are things posted on this ng that have been claimed to
be from peoples folders. Common sense (of which I have copious amounts)
would tell you that after millions of hours of auditing, somebody,
somewhere is bound to scan a few folders looking for dirt. It happens in
Law offices, psychiatric offices, doctors offices all the time. But to
make a point: *Scientology* does not utilize the confidental contents of
pc folders for blackmail.

Okay. I'll post this: Tilman Hauser is a direct genetic descendant of
Ghengis Khan, Martin Hunt is actually a plant - a strange hybrid of
pinto beans and basmati rice - and Starshadow is not really a witch,
she's a Loyal Officer. Using your logic it's all now true. Unless, of
course, you can prove otherwise.

Well? Apparently you can't prove it. Except that 'it's been posted'.

<snip dead dog chat>

In other words, you can't prove it.

The Minton-German-evil-psyche-lord-Nazi one is different than the
evil-deathcult-world-takeover-OSA-helicopter one. You gotta remember to
keep your conspiracies straight.

Me too. Thankfully no such cults exist in our fair land.

<snip>

Wow. At least he wasn't a child molester!

<snip>

It's the way of the world. That CofS employs the methods they do doesn't
make them Scientology methods. But it must smart to feel so
self-righteous and keep getting your collective butts kicked by them
terrible people.

Right now Starshadow, there is a power struggle in the ARS Cult. Erlich
has seemingly lost ground because he can't get a job and Wollersheim has
been found out to be what many of us knew all along, an attention-mooch.
Tilman has fallen victim to the clam-meme virus and Rob has proven
steadily that he's too intelligent to buy into _all_ the rants and spew
of this cult. RVY and his bride are angling to fill the vacuum by
planning and staging daring GO type operations and rescuing fair maidens
in the nick of time, but who can trust a couple of ex-GO button men?
Barwell would love to be leader but he *plonks* anyone who says anything
that isn't exactly what he wants to hear. Henson has the smarts, but the
RTC left tread marks on his checkbook. I don't think you want the job...
so... that leaves Dave Bird, He's the only ARS cultie here who has
consistently been looney enough to dribble his garbage out in an
on-policy, 100% standard fashion. Plus there's the added bonus of his
giant beard and bohemian appearance. I vote for Dave!

This from a *witch*? Pot=Kettle?

Why would I lie? If I had any compassion (according to Monica P I don't)
my little feelings might be hurt by that remark. If I'm misinformed I'll
take it like a man. But calling me a liar proves nothing.

<snip>

I disagree. There's a world of difference between failing to confront
something and stonewalling. Witness our current President if you want to
observe a true master. It's effective, produces results and has been the
preferred weapon of our civilization since language evolved. You want
answers? They say nope. Now what ya gonna do? Shoot them? That's life.

I wish you ARS cultists would get it through your skulls... wgert,
gunny, whip and the rest aren't major assets of the CofS. They're
grunts. Foot soldiers. They don't know dick about what the RTC is up to.
The threat of any enemy can be determined by the quality of the assets
sent against it. Erlich, Henson, Wollersheim did, at one point, present
a threat. That's why bigger guns were brought into play. You guys get
wgert. Which shows how much impact ARS has had in the last four years.

True. But I suspect you see my point. Demonizing Scn and falsely
creating a threat that doesn't exist does little or nothing if you
really intend to manipulate a change in the way they treat SO members.
This appears to be way too sophisticated for the ARS clam-crowd to
comprehend. I'll happily explain it though to anyone who cares to drop
the pretense of being the heroic saviours of our children and inspect
what is really going on inside CofS members heads.

Oooh. Wgert got upset... there's a stat for ya!

<snip Wolf's remarks about weight gain, pc's and Ho-Ho addiction>

Actually I didn't know you were sporting any extra poundage. But we all
have been witness to the repeated remarks about good ol' Ron and his
paunch. You folks set the rules on this one, not me. As an aside, Erlich
was the first one I recall really making a big deal about El Lardo and
constantly referring to his tubbiness. Having not seen Erlich for 15
years at the time I didn't think much of it. Imagine my suprise when I
saw his ugly mug splatted across Wired and then on the net... woah! He
ain't missed many feedings himself, despite being out of work.

Well, I yam what I yam. But you must know by now that defending the CofS
is beyond my capabilities. Nor do I care to defend them. OTOH, you folks
here could definitly use a tune-up when it comes to fighting for
something you believe in. Think of me instead as sort of a free
consultant to ARS. Being basically immodest it's easy for me to state
that I was one of the best players the CofS had. They know it too. The
caliber of folks they assign to recover me is way over the level of the
goons they assign to ARS. So here's my free consulting advice to you
meatheads today -> hysterical ranting and raving coupled with cries of
"Clam!" and "Xenu!" will net you the big zero. That crapola is for
mouth-breathers like anti-cult and zinj and butt kissers like Martin.
You people are not likely to destroy Scientology, so why not consider
the possibility that you could continually change it for the better. Get
a plan.

Now I never said *I* was rational, just that my thought processes are. I
obviously like what you write, why else would I be here?

Wolf