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Warrior

More options Jun 1 1998, 3:00 am

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From: Warrior <warr...@entheta.net>

Date: 1998/06/01

Subject: Re: Is it true?

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In article <35ec2c23.75916...@news.ping.be>, b...@arcadis.be says...

>Warrior <warr...@entheta.net> wrote:

>>>In article <3597d90f.14121...@news.ping.be>, b...@arcadis.be says...

>>>> For auditors, though, PC folders are sacred and they will defend
>>>> intrusion with nail and teeth. To say that folder culling is a
>>>> standard operating procedure is an insult for those Scientology who
>>>> *do* care about not divulging confidential and personal information,
>>>> and they are the overwhelming majority.

>>In article <MPG.fdbe2ec21a4c75d989...@nntp.lightlink.com>,
>>starshad...@mindless.com says...

>>> I do not believe this, for the above reasons.

>> You are wise, Starshadow.

>> I have seen many many instances of Sea Org execs and MAAs going through
>>pc folders for information. Maybe I'll just have to start naming some names
>>and places.

>> At the org I was on staff at I saw pc folders on the Commanding Officer's
>>desk, in the MAA's office and in the Guardian Office building.

>> It's a total lie that the contents of pc folders are kept confidential.

>Wait. I think we have a basic misunderstanding here. I do not say that
>folders are kept confidential. I know that they aren't, in the sense
>that the GO, MAA's, etc, had access to them. They are also to be seen
>by many tech personel, the CS can change, etc.

One point I wish to make clear is that members of Scientology are
told that the contents of their pc folders are kept confidential. One
exception is during "sec checks", when the "session" begins with the
statement "I am not auditing you". This type of "session" can, and often
is used against the member by "ethics" personnel, GO/OSA, the ED/CO,
the HCO Area Sec'y, or other Scientology execs.

In addition, I have known of instances of curious staff members
(like the Folder Admin person, Folder Page or Tech Services person)
to open folders and read them for information, amusement or to get
"dirt" on people.

>I never claimed that, and if I did, then I must have badly expressed
>myself. What I am refering to is the use of PC folder to use
>information containing therein against critics, and the diffusion of
>such information against their will.

I think others reading this newsgroup would disagree. Ask Dennis
Erlich, Gerry Armstrong, Robert & Stacy Young and David Mayo about
their personal experiences and observations on this subject.

>The content of the PC folder is not diffused outside the above
>terminals, and auditors will defend this diffusion with nails and
>teeth. Exception that may have occured does not represent the CoS
>practice at large, and certainly isnt't a standard operating
>procedure. That's my take of it, based on my personal knowledge.

Generally, auditors are more trustworthy than executives (admin
persons), from my observation.

>We are talking about two completely different things.

Like many things in Scientology, policy is markedly different
from actual practice. Scientology claims there is no "hidden data
line", yet there are many, many issues which are confidential.

As my grandfather loved to say, "The road to hell was paved
with good intentions." I learned to not trust Scientology. I
base my decisions on what I see (actions), and not on what the
cult says.

What business does a GO or OSA staff member have with pc folders
anyway?

Warrior
See http://www.entheta.net/entheta/1stpersn/warrior/

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