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Tilman Hausherr  
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 More options Oct 26 1996, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: til...@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr)
Date: 1996/10/26
Subject: Re: Hollywood stars attack German's scientology policy

In <199610212016.NAA09...@mailmasher.com>, nob...@huge.cajones.com (Huge

Cajones Remailer) wrote:
>There are examples in the HATE booklet published in 1993:

Ernie? Is this you?

Do you know that scientologists were fined for distributing this hate
booklet?

Do you know that almost all in this booklet are disputes between private
parties?

>- November 1989: I received an anonymous call at 3 a.m. and was
>insulted for being a "sect pig" and was threatened with the "death of
>all Scientologists."

This is not "discrimination". This is an abusive phone call.

>- August 1990: At the real estate office, the rental contract was
>written and I signed it.  A few days later, an employee of the office
>called me and told me that I couldn't have the apartment.  The
>apartment owner had said no.  He did not want to have sect members in
>his apartment.

Unlogical. No one says "Hi, I am a scientologist" when applying for an
apartment. I think more truthful is that someone wanted to open a
scientolgy org. Also no details.

I suggest you word-clear and clay-demo LRH's text "The anti-social
personality.... speaks in generalities ... etc". Could someone please
e-mail me the text?

>- The following is a statement by an opponent of the Scientology
>religion at an event in North Germany on June 11, 1991: "Unfortunately
>they [the Scientologists] don't wear an SC [Scientology Church] label
>which would make it easier to recognize them."

This is not discrimination. This is a very stupid language. Also, you
don't say who said that.

>- May 16, 1992: Anonymous phone call to the 72 year-old mother of a
>Scientologist at a home for the elderly: "Scientology pig."

This is not "discrimination". This is an abusive phone call.

>- July 10, 1991: A letter from the Catholic Bildungswerks [education
>group] to a female employee, who had been working for this group for
>sever years: "After the last Board meeting, I have to inform you that
>the Catholic Bildungswerk won't be able to employ you any longer due to
>your membership in the Scientology Church."

Employee who divorces gets also fired. Besides, you claim scientology is
a religion. So what?

>- Spring 1990: At a bookstore in Gronau the display windows were
>smashed.  A note was left which said that the windows were broken as a
>protest against the store displaying the book Dianetics.

This is not "discrimination". This is vandalism. Same happened routinely
in the Berlin "dianetik bookshop".

>- During a 1993 concert in Stadt of Golden Bough, an American folk
>singing group whose members are Scientologists, Christian Democratic
>Union youth affiliate members marched to the stage with banners to
>intimidate and ridicule the musicians.  Earlier a German magazine
>printed a list of names of musicians who were Scientologists suggesting

You say "suggesting". So obviously they were not calling for a boycott.

>boycotting all musicians on the "hit" list.  In the fall of 1991 the
>Hamburg city government cancelled their contract at Hamburg's music
>hall, as did the city of Celle due to their "connection" with the Church
>of Scientology.

The can get private facilities for their recruitment tours. Why should
the state lease to people whose aim is to destroy it?

>- The Kath's, a German family who got into Scientology in 1992, had
>their 3 year old son ostracized from kindergarten after the head of the
>kindergarten told other children not to play with him because he was a
>Scientologist.  

I hope that this is not true. Considering the honesty of such
propaganda, it probably isn't.

>The father, Detlef, was forced out of his job at
>Mecklenburge Insurance Company.  Detlef attempted to defend Scientology
>at an anti-Scientology rally in Berlin, was called a "devil" and forced
>to leave.

Labor laws are very pro-employee here, unlike the US. He could sue. 90%
of all cases are decided pro-employees. Funny, no mention of a lawsuit.

Let me guess. The guy proselytised for co$, was told three times to stop
it, didn't stop, was fired.

>- Scientologist Klaus Kempe and his wife attempted for 7 years to adopt
>a child, which was denied due to the fact that they were Scientologists.
>They fought for 7 years in the courts but by the end of that time, the
>issue became moot as both had passed the upper age limit allowed for
>adoption.

No discrimination. Kempe is a hard-core scieno. The concept of "adults
in small bodies" is not compatible with the general view how children
should be raised.

Why didn't Kempe try to adopt a fresh baby from the source where Tom
Cruise got his?

>- In 1992 the Commerz Bank of Hanover closed the business account of
>Hubillus and Partners, a real estate business as "Mr. Kubillus is a
>Scientologist."

Or maybe poor credit behaviour?

>- Stuttgart police who witnessed Frank Pass being threatened by a man
>while handling out pamphlets, stood by and did nothing.  They then
>seized the pamphlets, took him to police headquarters and fined him for
>not carrying ID at all times.

Define "threatened". I assume that "scientology sucks" is already a
threat. The rest is completely correct here.

>The book draws parallels between the treatment of Scientologists and
>other minorities in Germany now, as compared to the beginnings of the
>Jewish persecution in Germany.  It's an interesting comparison.

It's propaganda. Like the title says: "Hate and Propaganda".

Tilman


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