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Diane Richardson  
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 More options Oct 27 1996, 2:00 am
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: refe...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
Date: 1996/10/27
Subject: Nan's Stupid Honesty

Paulette Cooper claimed that the "Church" of Scientology[tm] had
harassed her by "stealing data pertaining to her from offices of her
lawyer."  This claim was made in Cooper's 1978 lawsuit against the
CoS New York, her 1978 counterclaim to the CoS lawsuit against her
for breach of contract, and Cooper's 1982 lawsuit against
the CoS Boston.

When questioned about this cause of action in deposition on
7 December 1978, Cooper made the following statements:
____________________________________________________________

ISAACS:         What about data allegedly stolen from the office of
                your lawyer?  Which lawyer are you referring to?

COOPER: The law firm of Wier and Folds.

ISAACS:         How did it come to your attention that such data
                had been stolen from the offices of your lawyer?

COOPER: Two Scientologists were arrested.

ISAACS:         Which two Scientologists are you referring to?

COOPER: Coulson and Chopornsky.

ISAACS:         And when were they arrested?

COOPER: I don't know.  Did you ask when they were arrested
                or when I learned about it?

ISAACS:         How did the arrest of these two men lead you to the
                conclusion that this data had been stolen from the
                office of your lawyer?

COOPER: It was an attempted burglary on which they were
                caught.

ISAACS:         I prefer for you to give me your best recollection.
                If you have any notes you can refer to them afterward.
                Were these two men arrested in the course of
                burglarizing your lawyer's office?

COOPER: That's correct.

ISAACS:         At the time of their arrest, did they have in their
                possession records pertaining to you?

COOPER: No.

ISAACS:         Then specifically what happened that led you to
                believe that they were attemping to steal records
                with respect to you?

COOPER: It was my attorney, and they admitted they were
                going after that.

ISAACS:         They admitted they were going after the law firm of
                Wier and Folds, did they specify that they were
                interested in you in any way?

COOPER: No.

ISAACS:         What led you to the conclusion that they were
                attempting to steal the records with respect to you?

COOPER: I believe they were attempting to steal records with
                respect to me and Nan McLean.
________________________________________________________________

The problem with Cooper's claim of harassment was that the attempted
burglary by the Scientologists[tm] occurred before Paulette Cooper
retained Wier and Foulds as her Toronto attorneys, and Nan McLean
knew this.

BAST:           Yeah, Paulette says she gives these Scientology
                lawyers a fit.  They can't keep up with her, because
                she knows how to lie so well.  They can't catch her.

McLEAN: I heard her lie in that deposition.

BAST:           What?  You were at that deposition?

McLEAN: Yes.

BAST:           Oh.  You went with her?

McLEAN: Yes.

BAST:           Oh!  So, she, how did so do?  Did she lie effectively?

McLEAN: No.

BAST:           Oh.  They caught her in a lie?

McLEAN: No.  But she doesn't do it very well.

BAST:           Oh, I see.

McLEAN: One thing that she told me she was going to do,
                which I wrote her a letter at the time, I have a copy
                of the letter, and she did it under that deposition.
                And I wanted to leave the room I was so upset.

BAST:           You know she was lying.  But they didn't know
                she was lying, though.

McLEAN: She was lying about something she had absolutely
                nothing to do with.

BAST:           Like what, what was it she was lying about?

McLEAN: Two men, Michael Churnepski and Alan Coulson.  I
                don't know if you've heard of them or not.

BAST:           No.

McLEAN: They were Canadians that were caught breaking and
                entering or attempting to break and enter my lawyer's
                office, Wier and Foulds, in Toronto.  They were caught
                in an elevator shaft and behind a locked door with
                lock-picking tools.  And they had mentioned Scientology.
                And then they shut up.  It turned out, I know both of them.
                I had audited one of them.  I knew they were there on a
                mission.  They were caught.  They were convicted,
                but as first-time offenders. . . .

BAST:           What did Paulette have to do with them?

McLEAN: Well, that's what I'm getting to now.  She, when she was
                sued in Toronto, asked me for a lawyer.  I referred her
                to my lawyer, Wier and Foulds.

BAST:           Who?

McLEAN: Wier and Foulds.  Prestigious law firm, but very
                conservative.  I'm no longer with them.  She joined that
                firm on the 29th, she had her first conversation with my
                lawyer on the 29th of April.  This business occurred on
                the 17th of April.  The night of the 16th of April.  She is
                claiming that this law firm was her law firm at the same
                time and that they were trying to break in for her.

BAST:           She wan't even a client of theirs?

McLEAN: She wasn't even a client of theirs at that time, and I said,
                "Paulette, I will never back you on that.  This is my lawyer's
                firm, they were attempting to get my documents.  You have
                nothing of your own, you are nothing.

BAST:           Why was she trying to claim that they were her lawyers?

McLEAN: Because it's one of the only incidents.


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