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 More options Aug 6 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology, alt.religion.scientology.xenu
From: wg...@loop.com (wgert)
Date: 1997/08/06
Subject: Re: FACTNet's Database and Copyright Infringement

mart...@islandnet.com (Martin Hunt) wrote:
>In article <33e52a0e.2437...@snews.zippo.com>,
>refe...@bway.net (Diane Richardson) wrote:
>>Then why did you ask if you expected an answer you didn't want to see?
>>Dennis, you are playing games of the worst sort here.  If you fail to
>>see what you're doing, I can assure you many others can.

Very true.

>BWAHAHAHAHA! What "others", Diane? :-)

Me for one.

>Speak for yourself; you don't represent me, you don't represent
>anyone but yourself in this new level of vileness.

Get off it.  She answered Dennis' questions - which he already knew
the answers to anyway.  He can't now cry "foul".

>One true sign of desperation approaching utter loss in a debate is
>to haul in nebulous "others" to back up your collapsing position.
>But then, you know that as well as I do, Diane.

I don't see it this way at all.  She has made very good, concise and
straightforward statements all along.  When asked, she answered the
questions.  Unlike many of the people posting on this newsgroup, she
does not seem to have any particular axe to grind and so doesn't have
to take the usual anti-Scientology position, just to get another dig
in.  

>>By Priscilla Coates and by Cynthia Kisser's husband, to be specific.
>>I would not have revealed the names of these sources, Dennis, if you
>>it that were so unwilling to sign over your defense fund to Larry when
>>you had been able to transfer the funds to Larry, you made it quite
>>plain to me that you would never consider such an option because you
>>don't trust the guy.
>>As I have stated above.  Priscilla Coates told me how she personally
>>Priscilla also told me about a meeting of anti-cult groups Wollersheim
>>Bill told me that the last correspondence Wollersheim had with CAN

This description of events sounds very much like Wollersheim. In fact
those who are really in the know, understand that Wollersheim is first
and foremost a salesman. Actually, he crosses over the line and falls
into the category of a "con" in that he inadvertently hypes the latest
gimmick or product to his customers.  The problem is that every single
money making project that he has ever engaged in has resulted in
failure and people getting burned.  It is the nature of the beast.
That is also exactly what is going on with FACTNet at the present
time.  Wollerhseim has made promises he can't keep, has extended
himself and FACTNet financially, he has even sold shares in his
judgement.  I am sure he has most of his lawyers and other FACTNet
members upset with him for promises that he couldn't keep.

>>I could go on.  I think you get the picture.
>Oh, loud and clear. Does anyone need a translation? If so, here it
>is:
>  "I am willing to backstab anyone and everyone and betray every
>  confidence from Dennis Erlich to Rob Clark to all my erstwhile
>  friends in pursuit of vengeance against anyone I ever get angry
>  at."

This is only translation of someone who has no judgement.

>  "Do not ever trust me again, or you may regret it one day."

Bull.

>  - Signed, Diane Richardson.
>Thanks for letting me know, not that I ever did trust you,
>particularly. It's funny; some people I just quickly trust
>and they never seem to let me down, even when mightily tested
>in hot and angry exchanges. You know, as ugly as it once got
>between some critics and I in the past, certain lines were
>still never crossed. Certain lines you have just jumped clear
>over.

This is quite a vindictive statement in itself and is not meant to be
helpful at all but only to try and hurt Diane's feelings.  

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