Bob Minton gets Human Rights Award in Germany - alt.religion.scientology

Message from discussion Bob Minton gets Human Rights Award in Germany

Thomas Gandow

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From: Thomas Gandow <gan...@is.in-berlin.de>

Date: 2000/05/27

Subject: Re: Bob Minton gets Human Rights Award in Germany

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Cornelius Krasel schrieb:

> Thomas Gandow <gan...@is.in-berlin.de> wrote:
> > Cornelius Krasel schrieb:
> >> Joe's Garage <swat...@xenu.net> wrote:
> >> > Robert Minton, a man noted for his public opposition to the Scientology
> >> > Organization, will receive the first Alternative Charlemagne Award in the
> >> > Federal Republic of Germany.

> >> I have no evidence for my allegation, but it appears to me that the
> >> "European-American citizens committee for human rights and religious
> >> freedom in the USA" is as much a front group for anti-cultists as
> >> Narconon is a front group for Scientology.

> > No. Please do not redefine the meaning of "front group".
> > A front group is a group where some people or another organisation is
> > hiding behind.
> > This committee *is* the real thing. All names are disclosed.
> > There is nothing *behind* the committee, but there are more and more
> > *supporters*, who are also speaking out in their own names and with
> > their own names or known aliases.(See the list on
> > http://www.alt-charlemagne-award.de)

> The supporters are mostly a.r.s. readers, from what I can see.

But this makes them not a front group.

> The
> "committee" seems to be an outgrowth (I hope you prefer this to
> "front group") of the "Berliner Dialog" group (of which Mr. Gandow
> is incidentally the leader).

That is not fully correct.
The committee was established in 1997 as a Lisa Mc Pherson-Ad
Hoc-Committee. See: http://www.alt-charlemagne-award.de/#English

It grew out of a connection between some ARSians and german parents
associations.

The "Berliner Dialog" is not a group or Organization, but (tries to be)
a quarterly Magazin http://www.religio.de/dialog/dialog.html
The Magazin *reported* on the letter of condolence and the committee.
(Sorry, this issue is not online.)

I am not a leader, but only one of three Vize-presidents of the DCI and
"incidentally" I am the editor-in-chief of the Berliner Dialog.
The "Berliner Dialog" is edited by the Dialog Center International
http://www.dci.dk and the Dialog Zentrum Berlin
http://www.dialogzentrum.de

> I concede that the term "anti-cultists"
> may have been a bad choice but I couldn't think of anything better
> at that moment.
> Well, I don't mind. I just want to put the thing into perspective.

> --Cornelius.

What is true is, that the DCI and the DZB are a supporting part of the
European-American Citizens Committee for Human Rights and Religious
Freedom in the USA http://www.alt-charlemagne-award.de

We support not only the committee, but also the idea, to give a
human-rights award to someone who is defending human rights, freedom of
information and freedom of opinion in the US of America.
You are free to join this committee.

May be that Youare right and it really is a front group: But only in
that sense, that the defense of human rights and dignity puts you in the
frontline between Human dignity and Scientology.

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