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...@petermc.demon.co.uk (Peter McDermott) wrote:
>For what it's worth, I hate Scientology with a vengeance. I think
>it's a corrupt and totalitarian organization that preys on the
>weak and innocent.
>However, I have to say that I've not seen many 'thoughtful, comprehensive
>or intelligent' rebuttals of Bernie's posts yet. I've seen people putting
>different viewpoints forward, but that doesn't constitute a rebuttal.
>>Another point that I find really stubborn about you is how you are always
>>on the side of the cult and the anticultists are "worse" than the cults.
>I'm not sure that Bernie *is* on the side of the cult or not, as yet.
>My readings of his posts so far, suggest that he's attempting to be
>even-handed. It seems to me that he's one of what must be thousands
>of Scientologists who left the cult and who *don't* feel damaged by
>the experience, and while that's not a point of view that's represented
>very often here, it's certainly one that I find of interest.
>My feeling is that many people dislike Bernie because he highlights
>contradictions and hypocracy that people would prefer to ignore.
Then I suggest you read more. Without a doubt Bernie goes out of his
way to defend cults, while taking every opportunity to run down this
mythical "anti-cult" cult.
Let me give you an example. Bernie has, more than once, accused this
"anti cult" cult of using the death of Lisa McPherson to paint the Co$
in a false and bad light. Now ask Bernie if he has read ANY of the
information on her death on the Lisa web page. Ask him if he read the
autopsy. Hell ask him if he even reads the threads that involve Lisa
McPherson. He has already admitted that he has not and does not. I
would not be surprised to find he has not read the logs that were
written by the people that were observing her while she was in the
care of the Co$. Yet Bernie feels very free in saying that Dennis is
using emotional language when describing Lisa's death. How does he
know? Is he even sure what she died of?
I don't see how this can be called "even handed". IF Bernie had gotten
EVERY SCRAP OF INFO on the death of Lisa McPherson, then came to his
conclusion, I would still disagree, but I could at least admire him
from not trying to hide from the truth. As it stands Bernie hides from
the truth. He even avoids just regular critical pages. Ask him. Ask
him why and he will tell you that he just does not have the time.
Excuse me if I believe that if you have the time to post, you have the
time to make sure your basic information is correct.
Bernie has claimed that the "anti-cult" cult (and just WHAT the hell
is that anyway? As far as I can tell it is anyone that agrees with
Dennis, or is critical of the Co$) is just as dangerous as the cults
are. Do you believe that Peter? Do you think that Dennis is as
dangerous as the Co$? Do you think that *I* am as dangerous as the
Co$? Do you even think that (in spite of the flame war that is raging
now) such a comparison is "even handed"?
Bernie is a cult apologist. It is as simple as that. He uses this
"anti-cult" cult term to do the same thing that Hubbard did when
dealing with critical thought about himself. Boomerang it back to the
target that originated the critical thought. It is a most excellent
piece of misdirection. "Lisa was killed while in the care of the Co$".
"You are just using loaded language to describe something you don't
know about. You were not there. You don't know if the Co$ was REALLY
caring for her. You are part of that nasty "anti-cult" cult. If you
had your way you would be kidnapping innocent cultist violently
deprogramming them". Lord give me a break. Please feel free to go to
Déjà News and read some of the threads that Bernie has been involved
in. I think that you will find it an eye opener.
Since you seem to think that there are not many 'thoughtful,
comprehensive or intelligent' post that rebut him, I have tried to use
examples from his own mouth. All I can suggest is that you just keep
reading him.
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Dominion SP2 (Thanks MikeSmith3)
Wearing a black arm band for Lisa McPherson
Born Feb 10, 1959 Died Dec 5, 1995
Murdered by the Church of Scientology
Please see the Lisa McPherson Memorial page:
http://www.primenet.com/~cultxpt/lisa.htm
