"Things are going very bad for Scientology around the world particularly in the US. The faint smell of real panic of a ship going down is showing up more and more both in critical US litigation and in their new media relations.
Income is down. New people are leaving faster as they find out what's going on and as they hear more about Scientology's real nature and history. Recruiting and promotion is getting tougher every day. Every effort they make is almost immediately countered.
The future looks like it is only going to get a lot worse and stay that way, but this is exactly the time you can expect Scientology to initiate a massive counter attack and counter PR attack. Policy absolutely demands it!
Much like the failed strategy of the Nazis in the battle of the bulge, over history they have traditionally used the Christmas holidays to finalize and or launch their silly counter attacks because some "Big Being in the Blue Barn thinks the rest of us are relaxing with our holiday parties.
What I suspect is coming as the "new" counter attack is some type of massive reworking of the Conspiracy - RICO or religious persecution type lawsuits against Scientology adversaries with the appropriate PR fantasy machine revved up to full speed to match the wild rhetoric of the new suits. They have already been betraying their panic by dropping the wildest rhetoric in court I have seen in 17 years.
Don't be fooled for a minute. They really don't expect to win these new conspiracy type suits. In fact, I believe they are most certainly fabricating them with the clear intention of dropping them latter on after they have served their real purpose, which is to have a really big, dramatic, exciting story to yell to the world that will help redirect and misdirect membership attention away from the sea of bad reports that they are continually being exposed to.
They are VERY VERY worried about internal defections --- much more than any outside threat, and they should be. They already know that 1998 will be leading off with some of the worst mass publicity they have EVER had and then its rapidly going downhill from there.
I want this on the record so those of you understand mind control in closed authoritarian environments will not yourselves be misdirected or redirected and can properly prepare for this very predictable and somewhat boring large scale coming counter offensive. If you are aware of it you will be more likely to keep focused on the real objective of accelerating the efforts at bringing the truth about Scientology directly to the members, their families and Scientology's new recruits."
>"Things are going very bad for Scientology around the world particularly >in the US. The faint smell of real panic of a ship going down is >showing up more and more both in critical US litigation and in their new >media relations.
>Income is down. New people are leaving faster as they find out what's >going on and as they hear more about Scientology's real nature and >history. Recruiting and promotion is getting tougher every day. Every >effort they make is almost immediately countered.
>The future looks like it is only going to get a lot worse and stay that >way, but this is exactly the time you can expect Scientology to initiate >a massive counter attack and counter PR attack. Policy absolutely >demands it!
>Much like the failed strategy of the Nazis in the battle of the bulge, >over history they have traditionally used the Christmas holidays to >finalize and or launch their silly counter attacks because some "Big >Being in the Blue Barn thinks the rest of us are relaxing with our >holiday parties.
>What I suspect is coming as the "new" counter attack is some type of >massive reworking of the Conspiracy - RICO or religious persecution >type lawsuits against Scientology adversaries with the appropriate PR >fantasy machine revved up to full speed to match the wild rhetoric of >the new suits. They have already been betraying their panic by dropping >the wildest rhetoric in court I have seen in 17 years.
>Don't be fooled for a minute. They really don't expect to win these new >conspiracy type suits. In fact, I believe they are most certainly >fabricating them with the clear intention of dropping them latter on >after they have served their real purpose, which is to have a really >big, dramatic, exciting story to yell to the world that will help >redirect and misdirect membership attention away from the sea of bad >reports that they are continually being exposed to.
>They are VERY VERY worried about internal defections --- much more than >any outside threat, and they should be. They already know that 1998 will >be leading off with some of the worst mass publicity they have EVER had >and then its rapidly going downhill from there.
>I want this on the record so those of you understand mind control in >closed authoritarian environments will not yourselves be misdirected or >redirected and can properly prepare for this very predictable and >somewhat boring large scale coming counter offensive. If you are aware >of >it you will be more likely to keep focused on the real objective of >accelerating the efforts at bringing the truth about Scientology >directly to the members, their families and Scientology's new recruits."
>IMHO
>Lawrence Wollersheim >Personally
>Joe
Massive offensive eh?
Considering the massively offensive nature of the DAing attacks by wgert et al, pet murder, PR fiascos obviously Operation Foot-Bullet is the most effective campaign every run by a fictitious conspiracy, and requires nothing more than letting the cult do what comes naturally.
While I don't doubt that scientology theory demands the belief that a conspiracy must be responsible for the present low state of stats, it's also obvious that the ARSCC is incapable of agreeing on thin crust or thick. What a nice crazy conspiracy.
RICO is a criminal charge tho, and it would take a totally brain dead DA to even consider filing them. Far as I know there are no civil RICO possibilities.. which really screws up the old harassing machinery.
>What I suspect is coming as the "new" counter attack is some type of >massive reworking of the Conspiracy - RICO.....
Ah yes, good old RICO. In the late 80s, OSA Int had a unit specifically working on RICO lawsuits. I would imagine this still exists.
Unfortuantly, the Co$ has not figured it out yet - whatever they send out in the way of PR will come back and hit them 10X, at least. The last year of mirroring sites when the original was shut down should have taught them this. I guess they haven't found the real SP that is destroying them internally yes (insert low toned snicker here).
Merry Christmas,
Ex-CMO
"People who would aspire to transform the world should start by transforming their own life and let it serve as an inspiration for others. Hubbard wrote best about what he most needed to learn." - Joe Harrington <joeh...@worldnet.att.net>
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Future808 <future...@aol.com> wrote: >>What I suspect is coming as the "new" counter attack is some type of >>massive reworking of the Conspiracy - RICO.....
>Ah yes, good old RICO. In the late 80s, OSA Int had a unit specifically working >on RICO lawsuits. I would imagine this still exists.
>Unfortuantly, the Co$ has not figured it out yet - whatever they send out in >the way of PR will come back and hit them 10X, at least. >The last year of mirroring sites when the original was shut down should have >taught them this. I guess they haven't found the real SP that >is destroying them internally yes (insert low toned snicker here).
Last RICO suit they tried was thrown out of court and their lawyers sanctioned. Apparently OSA didn't get it figured out then either. A RICO suit is going to be hard to bring and would galavanize the net again.
I think they will stick to their petty harassments ala Bob Minton for the while.
Look in 1998 for ARSCC pickets designed into getting them to over react ala CW.
Doe1thru5 wrote: > >From: future...@aol.com (Future808) > > In the late 80s, OSA Int had a unit specifically working > > on RICO lawsuits. I would imagine this still exists. > An interesting comparison in the use of RICO suits to harass ideological > enemies is in the campaign by the Christic Institute, a radical left wing > political cult, who tried using RICO because of the crippling legal costs it > puts on defendants and because of procedural features of the suit. They had no > realistic chance of winning such a suit against anyone they used it against, > but found it was a worthwhile tool of harassment nevertheless. It's odd that > groups like the Christic Institute, with ties to violent organizations having > more deaths that can be laid at their feet than the CoS could hope to muster, > aren't hounded in the public as much as this kind of barratry would suggest. > The downside of barratrous legal harassment may well be overestimated when you > start looking over the range of people doing it, not just a single abuser
Yes, I agree with that. I've said before the Co$ isn't doing anything that the legal system isn't allowing them to do.
I have to admit I was really ignorant of the legal system, period, until getting involved with the Co$. I was stunned to learn that with a writ of seizure (especially seeing that the Judges didn't totally chekc out and verify the data they received from the Co$ BEFORE putting their signature to them) the Co$ could enter and pillage private citizens homes.
Since finding that out and then being able to get on the net and follow all the legal shenanigans that have followed, as well as see and learn about the legal manipulations from earlier available on web pages, I am amazed but mostly saddened to see that the legal system is nothing more than a game where in too many cases the one with the most money wins.
I think that is why the Co$ is really on an all out war against Bob Minton. The people that Bob has out of an individuals right of choice decided to help by balancing the prior unfair scales of monetary power has caused the Co$ much upset.
Mainly because without MONEY, they would have been steamrolled. Now due to what is right or wrong, but strictly out of money. Now the playing field has been leveled and there is an opportunity for them to get fair access to the courts (isn't it amazing that fair access depends on money!!), and they are absolutely infuriated that their despised enemies have now been able to fight back rather than have to succumb to quitting because they ran out of funds and end up being gagged and have to do other forms of compliance in order to avoid being strangled by financial asphyxiation.
I hope that these cases make a reform not ONLY for the Co$, but somehow they will affect the abuses in the legal system that as you have pointed out have been going on and are not only used by the Co$. Good grief, give us po' little guys equality for justice, too.
>From: future...@aol.com (Future808) > In the late 80s, OSA Int had a unit specifically working > on RICO lawsuits. I would imagine this still exists.
An interesting comparison in the use of RICO suits to harass ideological enemies is in the campaign by the Christic Institute, a radical left wing political cult, who tried using RICO because of the crippling legal costs it puts on defendants and because of procedural features of the suit. They had no realistic chance of winning such a suit against anyone they used it against, but found it was a worthwhile tool of harassment nevertheless. It's odd that groups like the Christic Institute, with ties to violent organizations having more deaths that can be laid at their feet than the CoS could hope to muster, aren't hounded in the public as much as this kind of barratry would suggest. The downside of barratrous legal harassment may well be overestimated when you start looking over the range of people doing it, not just a single abuser.
: While I don't doubt that scientology theory demands the belief that a : conspiracy must be responsible for the present low state of stats, it's also : obvious that the ARSCC is incapable of agreeing on thin crust or thick. : What a nice crazy conspiracy.
Dammit! Chicago Style! I can't believe I was the only one who raised my hand. A thousand psychiatrists, bankers, news hounds, and other assorted ARSCC members, allround the big table at ARSCC HQ (which also does not exist) and not one other hand gets raised in support.
I do get a little worried about Scientology, and it's thoughts of mounting an offensive - in the past, they've sent thugs out to beat the tar out of people who've disagreed with them, attempted to frame critics for crimes ranging from rape to assaination... and that was without the current pressure of being cornered on all sides.
My wory is that when the time comes for them to commit to their 'righteous attack' that they may go beyond a war of words. If the command comes from on high to draw blood, will the command be carried out?
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Sister Clara wrote: > In message <67kajl$1v...@malgudi.oar.net> > cob...@tigerden.com (Chris Sutor) wrote:
> > I do get a little worried about Scientology, and it's thoughts of mounting > > an offensive - in the past, they've sent thugs out to beat the tar out of > > people who've disagreed with them, attempted to frame critics for crimes > > ranging from rape to assaination... and that was without the current > > pressure of being cornered on all sides.
> > My wory is that when the time comes for them to commit to their 'righteous > > attack' that they may go beyond a war of words. If the command comes from > > on high to draw blood, will the command be carried out?
> I doubt that Scientology will go the way of the Japanese Cult, though that is > an ever-present fear. I think it every bit as likely that any violence shown > by this cult in its death throes would be directed inward, as has happened to > so many other cults in the past.
> Mass suicide seems to haunt so many cults like an ever-present shadow.....
I would'nt have said that there was a possibility of mass suicide some years ago.
I changed my mind while writing my own account upon scientology, and second, by reading ars.
I am sure there is some danger of any OT level to come could command people to commit suicide as a method of getting true freedom and unlimited powers.
Think about this:
If one has been able to swallow every bit of elwrong's craps from the beginning up to OT III- NOTs, then , one is very able to swallow the following super-hyper crappy steps, whatever they are.
If one has lost every bit of criticism trough the ethics/delation/sec check system, one is ready to everything.
In every language, the word exists! It's called FANATISM.
