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JB Lingerman  
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 More options Mar 17 2001, 6:59 pm
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: JBLinger...@tella.de (JB Lingerman)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 23:58:22 GMT
Local: Sat, Mar 17 2001 6:58 pm
Subject: Anderson Report Beginning: sums up Scientology perfectly
The Anderson Report

PREFATORY NOTE

There are some features of scientology which are so ludicrous
that there may be a tendency to regard scientology as silly
and its practitioners as harmless cranks. To do so would be
gravely to misunderstand the tenor of the Board's conclusions.
This Report should be read, it is submitted, with these
prefatory observations constantly in mind. Scientology is
evil; its techniques evil; its practice a serious threat to
the community, medically, morally and socially; and its
adherents sadly deluded and often mentally ill.

(....)
---
Charlatanism is a necessary price of religious freedom.


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El Roto  
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 More options Mar 18 2001, 1:04 am
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From: "El Roto" <fin...@google.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:01:28 -0600
Local: Sun, Mar 18 2001 1:01 am
Subject: Re: Anderson Report Beginning: sums up Scientology perfectly

"JB Lingerman" <JBLinger...@tella.de> wrote in message

news:3ab3fa07.17389300@localhost...

> The Anderson Report

> PREFATORY NOTE

> There are some features of scientology which are so ludicrous
> that there may be a tendency to regard scientology as silly
> and its practitioners as harmless cranks. To do so would be
> gravely to misunderstand the tenor of the Board's conclusions.
> This Report should be read, it is submitted, with these
> prefatory observations constantly in mind. Scientology is
> evil; its techniques evil; its practice a serious threat to
> the community, medically, morally and socially; and its
> adherents sadly deluded and often mentally ill.

It's awful when you realize just how harmful this cult's been for
decades, no?  It hit me like a punch in the stomach.

Steve G.


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Kymus  
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 More options Mar 18 2001, 11:42 am
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From: kymus2...@aol.comnospam (Kymus)
Date: 18 Mar 2001 16:40:39 GMT
Local: Sun, Mar 18 2001 11:40 am
Subject: Re: Anderson Report Beginning: sums up Scientology perfectly

>From: JBLinger...@tella.de  (JB Lingerman)
>The Anderson Report

>PREFATORY NOTE

>Scientology is
>evil; its techniques evil; its practice a serious threat to
>the community, medically, morally and socially; and its
>adherents sadly deluded and often mentally ill.

Buddha statutes are idoltrous, made by idoltorors for idoltry.  Buddha statues
are evil, their presence evil and a serious threat to humanity, and those who
worship Buddha statues are sadly deluded and not in harmony with Allah.

Isn't it FUN how many people can play at the game of parading around their
value judgments on fundamental questions as though they are simply facts of
existence everyone is bound to acknowledge, and acknowledge in the fashion most
favorable to the value judgments of the bigot making the pronouncement?

The Church of Scientology's ludicrious smears of the entire psychiatric
industry and the Anderson Reports mean spirited smear of Scientology are mirror
images of opposite sides.

It impresses me how often the opponents of Scientology in fighting it have so
little compunction about using the same underhanded tactics Scientology uses.
Now THAT statement is an excellent summary and introduction to the Anderson
Report.

=  The a.r.s. prime directive: Make Jokes About Scientologist's Deaths=

Example, regarding Attorney Moxon and his UNFORTUNATE loss:   "Maybe he
believes there are no underground transformer vaults in Europe."  (JB
Lingerman)


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mimus  
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 More options Mar 18 2001, 12:22 pm
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From: tinmimu...@hotmail.com (mimus)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:21:59 GMT
Local: Sun, Mar 18 2001 12:21 pm
Subject: Re: Anderson Report Beginning: sums up Scientology perfectly

QUOTE

HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex
HCO POLICY LETTER OF 18 JUNE 1968

Remimeo
Flag Order

ETHICS

The Purpose of Ethics is
TO REMOVE COUNTER INTENTIONS FROM THE ENVIRONMENT.
And having accomplished that the purpose becomes
TO REMOVE OTHER INTENTIONNESS FROM THE ENVIRONMENT.
...

L. RON HUBBARD
Founder

LRH:js.cden
Copyright (c) 1968
by L. Ron Hubbard
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED

END QUOTE

Are you so morally obtuse as not to understand the absolute evil of
the above?

--
.sigzip*


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Kymus  
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 More options Mar 18 2001, 12:54 pm
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From: kymus2...@aol.comnospam (Kymus)
Date: 18 Mar 2001 17:52:42 GMT
Local: Sun, Mar 18 2001 12:52 pm
Subject: Re: Anderson Report Beginning: sums up Scientology perfectly
From: tinmimu...@hotmail.com  (mimus)

I am not morally obtuse and I do not understand how absolute evil even exists
except as an article of religious faith, let alone see the job description of a
branch of the Scientology organization embodies it.

Organizations by nature might find themselves in conflict and might find
themselves disunited, so organizations traditionally have a means of acting as
an organization, and maintenance of that capacity if assigned to the Ethics
department in Scientology.  

What's the big deal?  Shriners would remove a disease proponent or hospital
bombing advocate from their midst (remove counter intention) and discourage
constant yack about which is the best beer during a meeting to plan out
fundraising (remove other intentionness).  Subgenii who rent a hall for a
devival would probably oppose a landlord who tries to lock the door to the hall
and exclude all subgenii (counter intention) and exclude livestock merchants
from herding their wares into the hall under the pretext of enrolling all his
stock as ordained ministers of Bob *IF* that interfered with the devival too
much (other intentions).  Strictly speaking I know many Subgenii would welcome
additional livestock at devivals, as livestock are not yet AIDS infected and a
condom is not required, but other Subgenii are not completely in accord on this
I understand.
We could list an endless number of organizations that assign the function of
opposition to rivals and maintenance of focus on the groups activities to
someone, just as Ethics has that function in Scientology.

=  The a.r.s. prime directive: Make Jokes About Scientologist's Deaths=

Example, regarding Attorney Moxon and his UNFORTUNATE loss:   "Maybe he
believes there are no underground transformer vaults in Europe."  (JB
Lingerman)


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Rev Fredric L. Rice  
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 More options Mar 18 2001, 3:52 pm
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From: fr...@SPAMNOTlinkline.com (Rev Fredric L. Rice)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:41:58 GMT
Local: Sun, Mar 18 2001 3:41 am
Subject: Re: Anderson Report Beginning: sums up Scientology perfectly

kymus2...@aol.comnospam (Kymus) wrote:
>>From: JBLinger...@tella.de  (JB Lingerman)
>>The Anderson Report
>>PREFATORY NOTE
>>Scientology is
>>evil; its techniques evil; its practice a serious threat to
>>the community, medically, morally and socially; and its
>>adherents sadly deluded and often mentally ill.
>Buddha statutes are idoltrous, made by idoltorors for idoltry.  Buddha statues
>are evil, their presence evil and a serious threat to humanity, and those who
>worship Buddha statues are sadly deluded and not in harmony with Allah.

Adhearants to the Buddah don't claim murder, extortion, espionage,
and racketeering as a religious right.  Scientology does.  The killers
claimed that they had the religious right under the "Religious Freedom
Restoration Act" passed by Florida to kill Lisa McPherson -- even though
the killers continued to deny that they killed her.

---
Send information concerning incidents of racketeering and
terrorism by the Scientology cult to the Domestic Terrorism
Task Force at norf...@fbi.gov   http://www.skeptictank.org/
For psychological assistance check: http://www.shrinktank.com/


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Tommy  
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 More options Mar 18 2001, 4:50 pm
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From: Tommy <Tommy_Sp**ges...@Xs.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:57:44 -0600
Local: Sun, Mar 18 2001 4:57 pm
Subject: Re: Anderson Report Beginning: sums up Scientology perfectly

Quite correct.
You are morally bankrupt.
Big difference.

                                Tommy
--
Thank you for your very detailed letter regarding
Scientology. We haven't yet found a way to attack
these jackals who feed on children and young adults
who are too emotionally weak to stand by themselves
when they reach the age of consent.

Congressman Leo J. Ryan, shortly before being gunned down
by another cult in Jonestown


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Discussion subject changed to "If you find the Buddha in usenet, put him in your killfile." by Keith &quot;Justified And Ancient&quot; Cochran
Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran  
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 More options Mar 18 2001, 9:18 pm
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From: ja...@dimensional.com (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran)
Date: 18 Mar 2001 19:13:40 -0700
Local: Sun, Mar 18 2001 9:13 pm
Subject: If you find the Buddha in usenet, put him in your killfile.
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Kymus <kymus2...@aol.comnospam> wrote:
>>From: JBLinger...@tella.de  (JB Lingerman)

>>The Anderson Report

>>PREFATORY NOTE

>>Scientology is
>>evil; its techniques evil; its practice a serious threat to
>>the community, medically, morally and socially; and its
>>adherents sadly deluded and often mentally ill.

>Buddha statutes are idoltrous,

Wrong.  People don't stand, clap, and sing to Buddha statues.

>made by idoltorors for idoltry.

Wrong.  Buddhists don't worship statues.

>Buddha statues are evil,

Wrong.  Statues are not good or evil, they are statues.

>their presence evil

Wrong.  See above.

>and a serious threat to humanity,

Buddhists don't tie people up in the Ft. Harrison and starve them to death.

>and those who
>worship Buddha statues are sadly deluded and not in harmony with Allah.

Oh, boy.  I suggest you start with _any_ book on Buddhism.

>The Church of Scientology's ludicrious smears of the entire psychiatric
>industry and the Anderson Reports mean spirited smear of Scientology are
>mirror images of opposite sides.

Not really.  For one, the Anderson report contains facts, the cult's
smears of the psychiatrists are lies and distortions.

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Discussion subject changed to "Anderson Report Beginning: sums up Scientology perfectly" by John C. Randolph
John C. Randolph  
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 More options Mar 18 2001, 9:44 pm
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From: "John C. Randolph" <j...@idiom.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:35:59 -0800
Local: Sun, Mar 18 2001 9:35 pm
Subject: Re: Anderson Report Beginning: sums up Scientology perfectly

If Buddhists made a habit of financially ruining their followers, and occasionally
offing one of them in a transformer vault or tied to a bed in the Fort Homicide
Hotel, you might have a point.  But they don't, so you you don't.

[snippage]

> The Church of Scientology's ludicrious smears of the entire psychiatric
> industry and the Anderson Reports mean spirited smear of Scientology are mirror
> images of opposite sides.

I defy you to point out any inaccuracy in the Anderson Reports.

-jcr


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 More options Mar 19 2001, 2:46 pm
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From: "Kevin Brady" <rocks...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:45:53 GMT
Local: Mon, Mar 19 2001 2:45 pm
Subject: Re: Anderson Report Beginning: sums up Scientology perfectly

"mimus" <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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Yes.  If someone is in my house, and my intention is to work, play, etc. and
they are there to shoot heroin, smoke crack and rob passers-by, ethics would
induce me to remove that intention from my environment.  Whether that meant
helping him with a crack or heroin problem, reporting his robberies to the
police, or SOME OTHER SOLUTION, which is where it could be misinterpreted
for evil use, the policy itself does not recommend evil.

kgb
rocks...@hotmail.com


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