In article <6n6mna$...@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com>,
Stephen Jones   <snjo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

It actually makes very good sense on several levels.

How does one avoid reading something of which one has no detailed
knowledge?  You'd practically have to read it first.

If you're a Web-surfing Scientologist and looking for good news about Scn,
Scn businesspersons, other Scientologists, etc., it can be a hassle to
weed thru the copious (and extremely repetitive) Web links "critics" have
entered in all the search engines.

Why not have a tool that does it for you to some degree?

And what about Scientologists with kids? Haven't those parents a right to
some control?

This is perceptive, Ydrrisil, and quite true.

...

Someone challenged me to do my own web-surfing with the filter.  I'll
decline, both because I don't wish to bother and because others will
undoubtedly dissect the filter in detail.

In fact, I am fully certain some "critics," desirous of mischief, will
gain knowledge of it specifically in order to engineer anti-Scn pages --
perhaps even paraphrased descriptions of the OT materials -- that will
get past the filter.

- Whippersnapper

"How come I'M not allowed to do that?!"  -- Calvin

From: Whips...@cris.com (WHIPPERSNAPPER):

Cory has signed herself "Cory Brennan, Director of Special Affairs, LA Org" on
posts from TNX (reposted to a.r.s. anonymously) that were from around the end
of the time she was posting here, but sources had claimed she held precisely
this position in the middle of the time that she was posting most actively --
and dodging tough questions.  Doesn't sound as innocuous as just CCHR.

There's also the tendency of CoS posters to post most around the time stats are
due on Thursday; if they're not posting as part of their duties, they're
obviously including it in their personal stats, and if staff were posting on
their own I would expect it to be at sometime other than the peak period for
completing stats that count for job performance.  And analyses of Cory's
posting pattern showed that she tended to post most in the period right before
2:00 Thursday.

And then "Vera" was accidently outed do to a slip up by CoS in Ward's court
case, as having been .  Oddly most of the pro-CoS accounts that post to a.r.s.
from AOL also have no personal profile, and are not the same people who post to
AOL's internal boards.  And how would Vera have known to "out" an anonymous
critic unless she was party to CoS' investigations?  Similarly, some of the
other pseudonymous posters here have been shown from time to time to be in
posession of "inside" information, only hours old.  Mike Smith's occasional
posts finding some small point to ridicule, indicate to me that he reviews
a.r.s. extensively if not in full, and I can't imagine why he'd take the time
to do so unless its part of his job.  And don't forget all the snippets of text
from CoS' websites posted in various "spam attacks", which copyrighted material
it's hard to believe CoS would have tolerated the posting of had these not been
officially sanctioned operations.  The preponderance of evidence and
circumstance clearly indicates ongoing OSA operations through multiple
individuals and accounts.

I'll have to admit that those who see OSA pulling the strings of every CoS
member who posts here, and quite a few newbies, seem to me to be stretching the
issue to a ridiculous extent.  Though don't forget that "RonsAmigo" started out
by pretending to be a critic.

I.

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In <6n74nl$...@examiner.concentric.net>, Whips...@cris.com

You are a liar. You must say "but the fact of mentioning the scientology
membership on their website or in scientology magazines".

I could also say that people are having articles in Freedom Magazine and
unwanted scrutiny or exposure for absolutely no reason but the fact of
being psychiatrists.

Scientology is a hate group. It is only fair to present members of that
hate group, so that critics can see where the funds come, and can see
what this hate group members do.

--
Tilman Hausherr        [KoX, SP4]
til...@berlin.snafu.de     http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/#cos

    Resistance is futile. You will be enturbulated. Xenu always prevails.

Find broken links on your web site:  http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/xenulink.html
Annoy scientology by buying books:   http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/bookstore.html

In article <35b2280b.39625...@news.snafu.de>, til...@berlin.snafu.de says...

http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/bookstore.html

Having been 'outed' by Rod the bot I would like to say something here.

to start with.. I didn't post in my own name for a couple of years since I
worked for the government. As of the time that 'Rod' outed me I no longer did..
so it didn't bother me.

My name is:

Joe Lynn
9939 1/2 Farralone Ave.
Chatsworth Ca. 91311

Tel: (818) 993-0403

I'm still Zinjifar because I'm an old BBSer.. and happen to like nicks
especially mine :)

as a statement:

I represent noone
nor does anyone pay me god knows that's true

I am a sychophantic hero worshipper
and I think Keith Henson is certainly one of my heroes

I began picketting because they wouldn't let him.

(by the way.. Grady Ward is also one of my heroes and I look forward to his
poodle book)

I don't want the destruction of scientology.. although I understand the people
with deeply ingrained trauma that do.

I want a scientology that can't pay for golf courses at hemet.. can't pay for
Gene Ingram the swine can't pay for anything but what they claim that they are:

which is an applied religious technology

go for it you squirming remnants of a poodle's lifted leg

In my opinion Scientology is a cult
a mind-control cult at that.

I began working with self-hypnosis 30 years ago
I stopped because I found out that it was possible to bypass all of the filters
I had spent my life making for my mind.

I put those filters there for good reason :)
Auditine is self-hypnosis
it is mind control

Most scientologists are very honest and dedicated people
they are not evil

The entire goal of scientology is evil

think about it dear little scientologists.. the goal of scientology is EVIL

think about it

Zinj

--
I don't believe in the tech; think it's rubbish; think Hubbard was a
megalomaniac who in the end was eaten by the demons he released.
Don't forget - Last Rat off the Ship Goes to Jail

In article <6n79eb$...@drn.newsguy.com>, warr...@entheta.net says...

the Arscc paramilitary pulls out it's parasols and goes walking in the noonday
sun with the para crime fighters who found the thugees in the underbrush and
para shot them till they stopped killing tavelers in the name of para kali

thank god

Zinj

--
I don't believe in the tech; think it's rubbish; think Hubbard was a
megalomaniac who in the end was eaten by the demons he released.
Don't forget - Last Rat off the Ship Goes to Jail

In article <6n75v3$...@examiner.concentric.net>,
        Whips...@cris.com (WHIPPERSNAPPER) wrote:

I disagree.

If it is labeled, SCIENTOLOGY SECRETS - THE OT LEVELS, I think the
concerned Scientologist would be wise enough to avoid reading
it....wouldn't you?  Aside from a clear label, another factors would warn
the Scientologist: Context.  Who is displaying a page with Advanced Levels.
The CoS wouldn't display such a page.  Who would?  A critic.  Context,
Whip.  The fact that the CoS does not publish Advanced material on the web
for all to see should be a warning to Scientologists should they
"accidently" encounter such materials.

Sure, why not.  Obviously the CoS has a few coders, why not create a
program that does exactly what you describe.  Scientologists could download
it from the CoS web site and install it on their machines.  The CoS could
even charge for it (GoodNews 98!).  I don't care what kind of filter you
want to run. I think the individual would want to have some control over
the filter, though.

Without a doubt. Parents can install any filter they want.  How BabyWatch
98 gives a parent control over what their children see is beyond me.  The
parent has *no* control. The CoS has control.  Can a parent examine and
alter the list of filtered terms? I don't think so.  By installing
BabyWatch 98, the parent gives control of their own and their children's
web surfing to the CoS.

<snip>

The information will no doubt come from the "critics".  Once again, critics
giving you information the CoS will not.  I think you don't wish to bother
because you'd resent the CoS telling you what you could or could not read.
Of course, Scientologists are not as bright as you and might end up in
trouble.

Who are these Scientologists hunting and searching for OT materials?  It
seems you think there are loads of "scientologists" desirous of mischief
hunting for these OT materials.

Stephen Jones

In article <1998062904314600.AAA22...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,

Whipper seems more concerned with "protecting" scienos from
the OT levels than Hubby was, who apparently had grand
designs -- with _Revolt to the Stars_ -- to cause a plague
of deaths from pneumonia. No, I don't mean from the script,
either, though from the sound of it his screenwriting
career in the early 80s wasn't a smashing success...

The "don't post OT data 'cause it's restimulative" excuse is
pretty lame anyway; I mean, hearing about the Xenu incident
is supposed to kill those who aren't ready, not just cause
ARC breaks and the like.

Anthony

--
"The Wrong Thing to Do Is Something" - Xenu

"Japanese is a baby-talk." - L. Ron Hubbard

On 29 Jun 1998 00:42:11 EDT.
Whips...@cris.com (WHIPPERSNAPPER).
From: Concentric Internet Services.
Wrote on the subject: Re: Remember the Clam Nanny! (was: Re: Why I am a
public critic):

[snip, snap, snot]

Thanks for reminding me of that project Whip.

Now, is there anyone out there that would like to snail mail me a copy
of the Scientology Web Spam CD? I would really like to see how the
netnanny is constructed, and I would also bet that whoever made it,
could not resist putting his or her names in some vital files. Send me
the CD, and I'll rip out the vital code and post to this NG the data I
can find out about it and its origin.

My adress is as follows:

Sten-Arne Zerpe
Kristinelundsvagen 24
S-171 50
Solna
Sweden

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        You ARE kidding, right? Seems that a $cn spokesperson claimed that the
OSA does not exist. I'll go and fetch the Dejanews archive if you like.
As far as OSA being open and accessible to the average Scientologist -
the principal's office was pretty much open and accessable, but going
there was seldom by choice and usually a losing proposition.

                    Tommy
--

"I don't make the mistake of mixing my beliefs with reality.."

"I don't believe anything I write."

                Keith (Gunbunny) posted to a.r.s.

diplomacy:  the art of saying "nice doggy" until you can find a stick.

rob