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Anonymous  
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 More options Sep 30 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: nob...@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous)
Date: 1997/09/30
Subject: WAS LERMA ON LSD?

I was curious as to what happened to Lerma's claim that his
toothbrush had been doused with LSD during the raid on his house. When
I read his account of this incident, I thought it was pretty crazy and
there was a big question as to whether this he was making this up. As
I recall he was getting his toothbrush tested.  Was there ever any
evidence found from that testing that this was other than a flashback
Lerma was having due to the stress of the situation?

What about his urine which he was saving in his refrigerator? Was it
ever tested?


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Hiram B. Granbury  
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 More options Sep 30 1997, 3:00 am
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From: "Hiram B. Granbury" <jamr...@htcomp.net>
Date: 1997/09/30
Subject: Re: WAS LERMA ON LSD?

Anonymous wrote:

> I was curious as to what happened to Lerma's claim that his

Who cares if you're curious?  You don't have the guts to post with a valid address, so
your posting is just as worthless.  It sounds as if you're afraid Big Ron is watching.

Having to pay for the benefit of living in fear.  Sheesh..............


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Stefan Blandow  
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 More options Oct 3 1997, 3:00 am
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From: ste...@stuttgart.netsurf.de (Stefan Blandow)
Date: 1997/10/03
Subject: Re: WAS LERMA ON LSD?

On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 01:08:38 -0700, "Hiram B. Granbury"

<jamr...@htcomp.net> wrote:
>Anonymous wrote:

>> I was curious as to what happened to Lerma's claim that his

>Who cares if you're curious?  You don't have the guts to post with a valid address, so
>your posting is just as worthless.  It sounds as if you're afraid Big Ron is watching.

>Having to pay for the benefit of living in fear.  Sheesh..............

So I ask you,  Hiram, what happened to the urine, was it tested, do
you know something about it?

                        steff


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Keith Henson  
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 More options Oct 9 1997, 3:00 am
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From: hkhen...@netcom.com (Keith Henson)
Date: 1997/10/09
Subject: Re: WAS LERMA ON LSD?

NoScieno (nosci...@aol.com) wrote:

snip

: Although (AFAIK) the possibility has not been discussed, I consider it
: likely that, if indeed he got it by brushing his teeth, several squares of
: windowpane might have been applied directly to the tube of toothpaste,
: under the cap.  The gelatin would have dissolved in short order, rendering
: it undetectable, yet the full dose would be efficiently delivered the next
: time the tube was used.

Clams don't have much operational freedom or imagination so if they did
it one way before, they likely did it the same way next time.  And, in
fact, there was a report some time ago about pulling an LSD in the
toothpaste deal on a psychologist in London a long time back.  So, the
most likely mode of administration was the toothpaste.

Keith Henson


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Keith Henson  
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 More options Oct 14 1997, 3:00 am
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From: hkhen...@netcom.com (Keith Henson)
Date: 1997/10/14
Subject: Re: WAS LERMA ON LSD?

wgert (wg...@loop.com) wrote:

: hkhen...@netcom.com (Keith Henson) wrote:

snip

: >Clams don't have much operational freedom or imagination so if they did
: >it one way before, they likely did it the same way next time.  And, in
: >fact, there was a report some time ago about pulling an LSD in the
: >toothpaste deal on a psychologist in London a long time back.  So, the
: >most likely mode of administration was the toothpaste.

: >Keith Henson

: How about cutting off people's heads and freezing them?  Done any of
: that lately?  Isn't that your hobby?

Yes it is my hobby.  No, I haven't done any since last spring.  And if you
clams think you can DA me on this, you are sadly mistaken.  Info at
www.alcor.org.  BTW wgert, we don't make claims that what we are doing
will work; Alcor is conducting a long term experiment to find out.  We
freeze a number of people (when all other medical options run out) wait
till technology seems up to the revival process and try to revive them.
If it works or fails to work, we record and report on the results.  You
are part of the control group.

Keith Henson

PS, nice job in trying to divert attention away from the way scientology
is reported to abuse and harass its critics by, as one example, dosing
them with LSD.  Since chloral hydrate was used on Lisa, it too must be a
scientology approved drug.  Is that what Linda used on Tom?


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john smith  
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 More options Oct 14 1997, 3:00 am
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From: jsm...@jsmith.com (john smith)
Date: 1997/10/14
Subject: Re: WAS LERMA ON LSD?

I may have missed something here...What specifically does cryonics have to do
with the Church of Scientology drugging critics with LSD?

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wgert  
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 More options Oct 14 1997, 3:00 am
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From: wg...@loop.com (wgert)
Date: 1997/10/14
Subject: Re: WAS LERMA ON LSD?

hkhen...@netcom.com (Keith Henson) wrote:
>NoScieno (nosci...@aol.com) wrote:
>snip
>: Although (AFAIK) the possibility has not been discussed, I consider it
>: likely that, if indeed he got it by brushing his teeth, several squares of
>: windowpane might have been applied directly to the tube of toothpaste,
>: under the cap.  The gelatin would have dissolved in short order, rendering
>: it undetectable, yet the full dose would be efficiently delivered the next
>: time the tube was used.
>Clams don't have much operational freedom or imagination so if they did
>it one way before, they likely did it the same way next time.  And, in
>fact, there was a report some time ago about pulling an LSD in the
>toothpaste deal on a psychologist in London a long time back.  So, the
>most likely mode of administration was the toothpaste.
>Keith Henson

How about cutting off people's heads and freezing them?  Done any of
that lately?  Isn't that your hobby?

wgert
Read the Rogues Gallery of ARS Bigots
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Discussion subject changed to "WhyBlurt's having a Bad Trip!" by bagheera
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 More options Oct 14 1997, 3:00 am
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From: "bagheera" <baghe...@dgsys.com>
Date: 1997/10/14
Subject: WhyBlurt's having a Bad Trip!

WhyBlurt:

           Be nice and let the Keith alone.  After all, you worship Satan,
you believe that there are implant stations on Mars, you believe that
"Jesus was a Pedophile" because Hubbard said so.    If Mr. Henson wants to
work in cryogenics that is his business, so stop reacting to him like he is
Xenu or something.  Hubbard believed in cryogenics, and I bet if he could
have been frozen in ethylene glycol after he died he would have, but of
course David Miscavige stole all his property, so Hubbard's family wouldn't
have been able to afford to freeze Hubbard anyway.

     You should really try harder to allow other people to do as they like.
 Not everyone can be as nasty and uptight as you are, and gets sadistic
pleasure out of being so incredibly evil.  Also, I think you are pissed
because you know that no-one on the planet would want to freeze you for the
future anyway.......

Bagheera                                                                  
--
"Any stigma will do to beat a dogma."
             -Philip Guedalla-

wgert <wg...@loop.com> wrote in article
<62045j$nm...@usenet87.supernews.com>...


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Discussion subject changed to "Scarff Speaks on Wgert: Re: WhyBlurt's Bad Trip!" by Garry Scarff
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 More options Oct 15 1997, 3:00 am
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From: "Garry Scarff" <Sca...@iag.net>
Date: 1997/10/15
Subject: Scarff Speaks on Wgert: Re: WhyBlurt's Bad Trip!

bagheera <baghe...@dgsys.com> wrote in article
<01bcd8cf$cf40eda0$5d416...@newsco1.dgsys.com>...

> WhyBlurt:

>            Be nice and let the Keith alone.

No, please don't.  It's the challenges that makes this newsgroup so
enjoyable and worth posting to.  You want dull?  Go to
alt.mormon.fellowship and spend a day reading posts of Mormons trying to
find a godly reason why Mormon men fold their arms in church? Real dull...

  After all, you worship Satan, you believe that there are implant stations
on Mars, you believe that "Jesus was a Pedophile" because Hubbard said so.

I don't know why you keep poking at the Satan connection, unless you want
to draw comparisons to mainstream Christianity, which given the content of
majority of posts on ARS are not representative of affirmative examples of
Christianity.

    If Mr. Henson wants to work in cryogenics that is his business, so stop
reacting to him like he is Xenu or something.

I agree.  It's an interesting concept to believe you can freeze human heads
and bring them back at a later time. Question is: how does one attain a
body later on from a frozen head, and what if the head isn't pleased with
the host body?  Will  there be a new career field in Cryogenics
Malpractice?

Hubbard believed in cryogenics, and I bet if he could have been frozen in
ethylene glycol after he died he would have, but of course David Miscavige
stole all his property, so Hubbard's family wouldn't have been able to
afford to freeze Hubbard anyway.

It's doubtful given Hubbard's ego and the courageous manner in which he
allowed his wife to go to prison for him and then cut off contact to her,
that Mary Sue or the disaffected kids would have wanted to keep dear old
dad around in the form of a popsicle anyway.

>  You should really try harder to allow other people to do as they like.

Why?  People struggle for advantage, power & prestige everyday.  It's
called capitalism. It's the American Way.

>  Not everyone can be as nasty and uptight as you are,

Ahem..except for my stepmother (French-Canadians, you know how they are...)

 and gets sadistic pleasure out of being so incredibly evil.

I haven't seen anything that is "incredibly evil" from wgert, even when he
has DA'd me in the past.  The information was there and he exploited and
used it in the manner he considered to be appropriate.  This man must have
gone to college....

 Also, I think you are pissed because you know that no-one on the planet
would want to freeze you for the future anyway.......

Ick!! Who would?


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Discussion subject changed to "WhyBlurt's having a Bad Trip!" by William Barwell
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 More options Oct 19 1997, 3:00 am
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From: wbarw...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (William Barwell)
Date: 1997/10/19
Subject: Re: WhyBlurt's having a Bad Trip!

In article <01bcd8cf$cf40eda0$5d416...@newsco1.dgsys.com>,

bagheera <baghe...@dgsys.com> wrote:
>WhyBlurt:

>           Be nice and let the Keith alone.  After all, you worship Satan,

Scientology has nothing to do with Satanism in the least.
This is a slander. On Satanists.

Pope Charles
SubGenius Pope Of Houston
Slack!


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