At least ten of these today, with no syntactically valid e-mail address in the From: header. Either it's the beginning of a new attempt at flooding, or someone's trying to get people to killfile Zippo (which would be a Very Bad Thing, since many real a.r.s. folks post from there, like me).
This isn't yet net-abuse, but it's starting to head in that direction, based on my experience with past events in a.r.s.
Does Zippo's news server always ad an "NNTP-Posting-Host" on its own domain of newsdawg.com? None of these NNTP-Posting-Host's, including the one on your complaints posting, resolves to an IP number.
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In article <345a70b5.4518...@nntp.best.ix.netcom.com>,
jmru...@ix.netcom.com (Joel Rubin) wrote: > Does Zippo's news server always ad an "NNTP-Posting-Host" on its own > domain of newsdawg.com? None of these NNTP-Posting-Host's, including > the one on your complaints posting, resolves to an IP number.
Hmm, that's really strange -- I've forwarded your message to Joe Zip....
On Thu, 30 Oct 1997 10:01:19 -0500, rnew...@thecia.net (Ron Newman) wrote:
>> Does Zippo's news server always ad an "NNTP-Posting-Host" on its own >> domain of newsdawg.com? None of these NNTP-Posting-Host's, including >> the one on your complaints posting, resolves to an IP number.
>Hmm, that's really strange -- I've forwarded your message to >Joe Zip....
Ron,
I think y'all are making a mountain out of a molehill. I believe zippo has a pretty complex networked system and the nntp-posting-host identifies one of the systems, nothing more sinister than that.
On Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:27:06 -0500. rnew...@thecia.net (Ron Newman). From: None. Wrote on the subject: Re: New attempt to flood a.r.s. starting, from Zippo today?:
>> At least ten of these today, with no syntactically valid e-mail address >> in the From: header. Either it's the beginning of a new attempt at flooding, >> or someone's trying to get people to killfile Zippo (which would be a >> Very Bad Thing, since many real a.r.s. folks post from there, >> like me).
>> This isn't yet net-abuse, but it's starting to head in that direction, >> based on my experience with past events in a.r.s.
>And Joe Zip wrote back to me. (I'm forwarding this with his permission.)
>--------------------- >Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 07:54:07 -0800 >From: Joe <j...@zippo.com> >To: Ron Newman <rnew...@thecia.net> >Subject: Re: New attempt to flood a.r.s. starting, from Zippo today?
>This turned out to be an Original Zippo user who had been with us for over >a year without prior incident. Very strange. In any case, their membership >was terminated, as is standard policy, the group was cleaned up and cancel >messages were issued.
>Joe
How very footbulletish of the alleged scientologist to abuse his account so blatantly.
Bwahahaha.....Criminal cult....
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>>> Does Zippo's news server always ad an "NNTP-Posting-Host" on its own >>> domain of newsdawg.com? None of these NNTP-Posting-Host's, including >>> the one on your complaints posting, resolves to an IP number.
>>Hmm, that's really strange -- I've forwarded your message to >>Joe Zip....
>Ron,
>I think y'all are making a mountain out of a molehill. I believe >zippo has a pretty complex networked system and the nntp-posting-host >identifies one of the systems, nothing more sinister than that.
Right, Zane; that header is seen in critics who post to ars as well:
(headers abbreviated)
From: Heinz Mueller Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: FACTNet Weekly Scientology Report Date: 29 Oct 1997 21:31:44 -0800 Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com] NNTP-Posting-Host: p-805.newsdawg.com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [clam clap-trap snipped]
From: Sonia Rivera Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com] Message-ID: <63969m$a36@drn.zippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-806.newsdawg.com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [clam clap-trap snipped]
From: Aaron Tobin Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com] Message-ID: <6396fh$anq@drn.zippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-864.newsdawg.com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [clam clap-trap snipped]
From: Eugene Bergner Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com] Message-ID: <6396ji$b61@drn.zippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-865.newsdawg.com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [clam clap-trap snipped]
From: Justin Calhoun Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com] Message-ID: <6398hq$gs6@drn.zippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-216.newsdawg.com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [clam clap-trap snipped]
And from our very own Warrior:
From: Warrior <warr...@electrotex.com> Organization: Sunshine disinfects Message-ID: <638ms1$...@drn.zippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-909.newsdawg.com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I note that many posts from Zippo by critics have a numerical NNTP address, while all the clam posts have the newsdawg one. Coincidence? I suspect these are all from one clam trying to make himself out to be a group; group consensus, manufactured and ready-made.
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On 31 Oct 1997 07:56:09 GMT, mikesmi...@aol.com (MikeSmith3) wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Oct 1997 02:53:50 -0500, rnew...@thecia.net (Ron Newman) wrote:
> ---del
> >This isn't yet net-abuse, but it's starting to head in that direction, > >based on my experience with past events in a.r.s.
> Cop to Newman:
> The reason I stopped you is that I thought you were getting too close to the > speed limit and I've had bad experiences with the kind of car you drive.
I guess this is as close as we will get to an admission that the Multiple Personalities recently posting are Co$ operatives.
