>After looking up Tilman via Deja News and reading enough of his stuff to >become truly nauseated, I am of the opinion that the "nazi" reference >is entirely appropriate in Tilman's case. If it walks like a duck and
Any examples to back up your allegation? Or are you an "anti-social person", so you have to speak in generalities?
Jim Kalergis <JKaler...@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >And yet you have the fucking nerve to sit behind your keyboard in full >dramatizing nazi mode and post crap like this?
1. "Full dramatizing nazi mode" is Scientologese. Unless you're looking for an ARSCC Ethics Condition, speak English please.
2. You have an M/U on "Nazi," which has a very specific meaning. And had you looked it up in the dictionary the way Almighty Ron told you to, you'd know it's spelled with a capital N anyway.
3. Why do you Scientology <tm> brand clones have such a thing with Germans and Nazis anyway? I would have assumed that it was just a bank response or something, then I remembered that you were an OT8. That's OK, I guess that in your case you're just a stupid git.
Your Amends formula: Spot a clue. Continue until cognition.
The deeply suppressive "Jim Kalergis" <JKaler...@worldnet.att.net> managed to write during a rare fit of unreasonableness:
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>And yet you have the fucking nerve to sit behind your keyboard in full >dramatizing nazi mode and post crap like this?
You have the fucking nerve to sit behind your keyboard in full dramatizing scieno mode and post crap like this?
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>confront the warped and evil sickness of your own soul.
Confront the warped and evil sickness of your Mind Control Cult.
Go fry a bug OT boy.
Lance.
-- http://www.avalon.demon.co.uk/ "We would only destroy people who attempt to harm Scientology" Jaques Vollet, Ex-head of GO-B1(Eu) currently head of OSA Invest(Eu) [ SP4 : GGBC #26 : ARSCC(UK) : J&D : KoX : KbM #11 ] My Other Hat's A Fedora
The deeply suppressive "Jim Kalergis" <JKaler...@worldnet.att.net> managed to write during a rare fit of unreasonableness:
>After looking up Tilman via Deja News and reading enough of his stuff to >become truly nauseated, I am of the opinion that the "nazi" reference >is entirely appropriate in Tilman's case. If it walks like a duck and >quacks like >a duck, why not call it a duck? >You of course are free to take me seriously or not as you see fit.
I am of the opinion that my "Mind Control Cult of Scientology(tm)" reference is entirely appropriate in every case. If it walks like a Mind Control Cult and talks like a Mind Control Cult, why not call it a Mind Control Cult?
You of course are free to help forward the enemy line by communicating with SPs and thereby committing a supressive act or not, or just have a conniption fit.
Lance. -- http://www.avalon.demon.co.uk/ "We would only destroy people who attempt to harm Scientology" Jaques Vollet, Ex-head of GO-B1(Eu) currently head of OSA Invest(Eu) [ SP4 : GGBC #26 : ARSCC(UK) : J&D : KoX : KbM #11 ] My Other Hat's A Fedora
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If it charges in like an elephant, trumpets like an elephant....
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nor...@netcom.com (Jon Noring) wrote: >In article "Jim Kalergis" <JKaler...@worldnet.att.net> writes: >>I received email which prompts me to post a disclaimer to the above >>referenced article. >>Not by any stretch of the imagination did I mean to imply that what I wrote >>about Tilman applies universally to ARS critics. >I'm sure I speak for many here that we appreciate this! >So, now all we need to discuss is whether what you ascribe to Tilman is >accurate. :^)
Indeed. Please go in the thread "Re: Hollywood stars attack German's scientology policy" and check the whole exchange between Tilman and myself and tell us if you can understand why Jim arrived to this somewhat overstated statement. I would like to have other opinions on this.
--------- Bernie
You cannot teach a man anything. You can only help him to find it within himself. (Galileo)
In article <327a96c8.28112...@news.ping.be>, b...@arcadis.be (Bernie) writes:
|> Indeed. Please go in the thread "Re: Hollywood stars attack |> German's scientology policy" and check the whole exchange between |> Tilman and myself and tell us if you can understand why Jim |> arrived to this somewhat overstated statement. I would like to |> have other opinions on this.
Yes, OK. Well, . . . Tillman came out smelling like a rose.
Bernie, are you an OT? If so, tell us about Xenu and BTs!
> In <01bbc6e4$59e14800$d524eea5@jimkaler>, "Jim Kalergis" > <JKaler...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >Hi Barbara,
> >After looking up Tilman via Deja News and reading enough of his stuff to > >become truly nauseated, I am of the opinion that the "nazi" reference > >is entirely appropriate in Tilman's case. If it walks like a duck and > >quacks like a duck, why not call it a duck? > Any examples to back up your allegation? Or are you an "anti-social > person", so you have to speak in generalities?
Well, actually Tilman, I THINK Jim was accusing you of being a DUCK!!
til...@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr) wrote: >In <01bbc6e4$59e14800$d524eea5@jimkaler>, "Jim Kalergis" ><JKaler...@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >>Hi Barbara, >>After looking up Tilman via Deja News and reading enough of his stuff to >>become truly nauseated, I am of the opinion that the "nazi" reference >>is entirely appropriate in Tilman's case. If it walks like a duck and >Any examples to back up your allegation? Or are you an "anti-social >person", so you have to speak in generalities?
I don't support the "Nazi" allegation, but the "Re: Hollywood stars attack German's scientology policy" thread Jim referred to initially is a good example on how far you are willing to go in your fight against "evil", Tilman. I think that anyone with some remains of humanity will understand Jim's reaction.
--------- Bernie
Mollusks have feelings too ... ya' know? (Dennis L.Erlich)
In <327b6f10.17706...@news.ping.be>, b...@arcadis.be (Bernie) wrote:
>I don't support the "Nazi" allegation, but the "Re: Hollywood >stars attack German's scientology policy" thread Jim referred to >initially is a good example on how far you are willing to go in >your fight against "evil", Tilman. I think that anyone with some >remains of humanity will understand Jim's reaction.
Jim's reaction is easy to understand: Anti-Scientologists are criminals (per Hubbard), I criticize scientology, he reads scientology propaganda, I am a german, therefore I *must* be a nazi.
100% standard tech is that Jim has gone into hiding; his "theta" post turned to to be even more damaging evidence than much than what I had seen before, thus producing more "entheta" from me.
> You don't know me, Tilman. You don't know my family, my friends, or their > children. I imagine it's safe to say that you've never had any personal > contact with a Scientology family.
> And yet you have the fucking nerve to sit behind your keyboard in full > dramatizing nazi mode and post crap like this?
godwin's law says the debate is over, and kalergis has lost.
it's a shame the scientologists can't rid themselves of the reactive german-nazi association, especially when germany and germans are if anything more actively anti-nazi than almost anywhere else.
so instead of striving for a new and more accurate reaction, scientos make statements like the above that just might be considered criminal if made in germany.
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> Yeah, I use it "against" my children all the time. Like when my older > daughter's cat died and she was grief stricken. I gave her 2 hours of > auditing and she bounced back fine. Or the time my younger girl > was having trouble in school and it wasn't sorting out. I applied > some Hubbard data eval tech "against" her and she was flying again > in no time.
actually, i find this description pretty revolting. when my daughter's pets died, i found it a time to provide real, human, emotional support, and to help her develop a better understanding of major real-world things like life and death.
> > No it ain't when it's scientology. And german, english and american > > courts see this like me. Scientology cannot be compared to Christian, > > Muslim or Buddhist religions.
> Say the word and I will post to this newsgroup several million bits > worth of court documents which say otherwise.
we've seen a good part of it, and refuted most of it. but what the heck, andrew milne hasn't been on for many months now.
