Attached is an e-mail message from Arnie Lerma to Kim Baker who passed it on to the Scientologists in one of her now famous flip flops. I repost it here as personally I despise Mr. Carto and the intolerance and the blatant support of NAZI ideology for which he stands.
Lerma should either refute his affiliation with Mr. Carto's organizations or admit it fully (as he does in the e-mail posting) and be prepared to suffer the consequences of going to bed with one of the pre-eminent neo-NAZI, Jew haters in the world today.
So far as I know, Lerma and FACTNet have never distanced themselves from Carto and his associations.
--start of e-mail posting--
Return-Path: ale...@lightlink.com Received: by UCTLIB (Mort 1.42) id 3523 from uctmail.uct.ac.za; Mon Sep 4 16:03:50 1995 Received: from light.lightlink.com by uctmail.uct.ac.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #12) id m0spc7g-00095ZC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 16:03 GMT Received: (from alerma@localhost) by light.lightlink.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA 20228; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 10:03:31 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 10:03:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Arnie Lerma <ale...@lightlink.com> To: Kim Baker <K...@uctlib.uct.ac.za> Subject: Re: Co-ordination In-Reply-To: <m0spXOY-00093wC@uctmail.uct.ac.za> Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950904095635.19923B-100...@light.lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMFLAGS: 34078848
I was asked to speak at the 40th anneversary convention of liberty lobby.
my talk was the liberty tree essay.
after I read the 1766 dedication by silas downer I had to wait until the applause died down to continue...
I suggest that we dont promote my relationship with Willis Carto.
Willis, BTW. had a group called 'liberty &property' in 1955
The Spotlight is purging its advertiser list of all questionable groups, neo-nazi's, white supermacists etc. Some of the ads are placed by ADL just to make the spotlight deadagentable.
We have the full support of Willis Carto, and the the 'patriot' movement in the United States.
They have a web page for patriots and have done much research on browser links and various web indexes, and they will be including pointers to our story.
> Attached is an e-mail message from Arnie Lerma to Kim Baker who passed > it on to the Scientologists in one of her now famous flip flops. I > repost it here as personally I despise Mr. Carto and the intolerance > and > the blatant support of NAZI ideology for which he stands.
Do you feel the same way about Tom Marcellus, a major donor to the IAS, who was Carto's right hand man for over 10 years, and the individual who ran the IHR for several years until his Scientology membership was disclosed in a newspaper article in the UK, in the spring of 95?
> Attached is an e-mail message from Arnie Lerma to Kim Baker who passed > it on to the Scientologists in one of her now famous flip flops. I > repost it here as personally I despise Mr. Carto and the intolerance > and > the blatant support of NAZI ideology for which he stands.
Once again, the ANONYMOUS GUTLESS WONDER.
Ignore this lose, since he's got no balls to post under his real name.
>Attached is an e-mail message from Arnie Lerma to Kim Baker who passed >it on to the Scientologists in one of her now famous flip flops. I >repost it here as personally I despise Mr. Carto and the intolerance >and >the blatant support of NAZI ideology for which he stands.
A load of the usual goofy personal attacks are appearing anonymously against Lerma/FACTNET, indicating that they must be doinf something right against the "Church" of Scientology to merit such attacks.
|~/ |~/ ~~|;'^';-._.-;'^';-._.-;'^';-._.-;'^';-._.-;||';-._.-;'^';||_.-;'^'0-|~~ P | Woof Woof, Glug Glug ||____________|| 0 | P O | Who Drowned the Judge's Dog? | . . . . . . . '----. 0 | O O | answers on *---|_______________ @__o0 | O L |{a href="news:alt.religion.scientology"}{/a}_____________|/_______| L and{a href="http://www.xemu.demon.co.uk/clam/lynx/q0.html"}{/a}XemuSP4(:)
>> Attached is an e-mail message from Arnie Lerma to Kim Baker who passed >> it on to the Scientologists in one of her now famous flip flops.
>This is about the 4th or 5th time you, or some other jerk, has posted >this here. Nobody has yet answered my question: How did you come >into possession of this private e-mail message (assuming that it is >authentic, which it might not be)?
>So far as I know, Lerma and FACTNet have never distanced themselves >from Carto and his associations.
and your cult has never distanced itself from "patron emeritus" thomas marcellus, a member of the very same organization. but i guess he's "upstat" and you don't mind if HE is a holocaust-denying nazi.
In article <199709300157.DAA08...@basement.replay.com>, nob...@REPLAY.COM
(Anonymous) wrote: > Attached is an e-mail message from Arnie Lerma to Kim Baker who passed > it on to the Scientologists in one of her now famous flip flops.
This is about the 4th or 5th time you, or some other jerk, has posted this here. Nobody has yet answered my question: How did you come into possession of this private e-mail message (assuming that it is authentic, which it might not be)?
>>Attached is an e-mail message from Arnie Lerma to Kim Baker who passed >>it on to the Scientologists in one of her now famous flip flops. I >>repost it here as personally I despise Mr. Carto and the intolerance >>and >>the blatant support of NAZI ideology for which he stands.
>A load of the usual goofy personal attacks are appearing anonymously >against Lerma/FACTNET, indicating that they must be doinf something >right against the "Church" of Scientology to merit such attacks.
Oh come on! Lerma is on his own and as about effective as a killer bee in a glass jar. I don't think CoS is behind these post since this is old stuff. Could be someone trying to portray themselves as victims to some potential donations. Now I wonder who could want to do that?
Keith
----------------------------------------------------------- ! Keith Wyatt http://www.teleport.com/~kewyatt ! ! PGP KEY by finger and keyservers ! ----------------------------------------------------------- there has been a great deal of incorrect information posted about me on ars, perhaps because too little available information has lead to insufficient conclusions being drawn. Paulette Cooper
Ron: Don't worry about it Ron, and forget about Diane's needling comments. The important thing to note here is that although the cult is trying to DA Mr. Lerma with weird bullshit about, oh no!!! a Lerma/Carto association, the bottom line is that the cult is trying to litigate Carto into the ground, and he's fighting them tooth and nail. Carto is fighting the good fight, and whether or not there is some stigma attached to Carto that the cult believes could negatively affect them both, NOTHING in the UNIVERSE compares to the stigma and fascist history of the CULT OF SCIENTOLOGY. And if the cult got the e-mail illegally or not, matters not. Kim Baker has had her share of unbelieveable harrassment and hell from what I've read on this NG. They probably got it when her defenses were down. Oh, and Diane Richardson is just being catty and mean. Ignore her.
Best regards,
Bagheera
-- "Any stigma will do to beat a dogma." -Philip Guedalla-
Diane Richardson <refe...@bway.net> wrote in article <34318779.3298...@snews.zippo.com>...
> >> Attached is an e-mail message from Arnie Lerma to Kim Baker who passed > >> it on to the Scientologists in one of her now famous flip flops.
> >This is about the 4th or 5th time you, or some other jerk, has posted > >this here. Nobody has yet answered my question: How did you come > >into possession of this private e-mail message (assuming that it is > >authentic, which it might not be)?
