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KoX  
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 More options Oct 15 1997, 3:00 am
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From: te...@skylink.net (Ted Mayett (KoX))
Date: 1997/10/15
Subject: Re: Picket in Poole Oct 11th -97. Pictures/words on Web [Xenu]

On Wed, 15 Oct 1997 09:40:48 +0200, jenst...@imaginet.fr (Jens

Tingleff) wrote:
>Howdy!

>The pictures from the protest last saturday in Poole are now on the Web,
>accessible through

>    http://www.imaginet.fr/~jensting/muslinger/protest_map.html

>The new pictures are on

>    http://www.imaginet.fr/~jensting/muslinger/poole971011_a.html

Oh my, that looks to be a very fine storefront that bookstore.  It is
large and clean and new looking.  In fact, it looks kind of familiar.
Like maybe it was the place photographed in The Big Story. ???

So the closing of that shop perhaps signifies the end of an era.  How
may years was it at that location one wonders.

>My friend with a scanner got a new and nicer piece of equipment (Nikon
>36-bit slide/negative scanner), so the quality is quite a bit better than
>before (check out the last picture of Roland - the clouds are invisible on
>the print I got back from the shop).

That picture is beautiful.  A lovely way to end a picture and story
picket report.  You seem to get better with age Jens. <smile>

The pictures are stunning and the page loads fast.  Nice work!
Now I'm going back in through the map.

One more thing.  Nice that Dave Birds ascii map is preserved, it seems
to give a very good picture of Ambush Alley.

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Jens Tingleff  
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 More options Oct 15 1997, 3:00 am
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From: jenst...@imaginet.fr (Jens Tingleff)
Date: 1997/10/15
Subject: Picket in Poole Oct 11th -97. Pictures/words on Web [Xenu]

Howdy!

The pictures from the protest last saturday in Poole are now on the Web,
accessible through

    http://www.imaginet.fr/~jensting/muslinger/protest_map.html

The new pictures are on

    http://www.imaginet.fr/~jensting/muslinger/poole971011_a.html

My friend with a scanner got a new and nicer piece of equipment (Nikon
36-bit slide/negative scanner), so the quality is quite a bit better than
before (check out the last picture of Roland - the clouds are invisible on
the print I got back from the shop).

Featured are the empty bookstore (yay!!), Roland feeding BT^H^Hchips to the
sea-gulls and Dave's, John's and Roland's reports.

Cheers

   Jens

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 More options Oct 15 1997, 3:00 am
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From: future...@aol.com (Future808)
Date: 1997/10/15
Subject: Re: Picket in Poole Oct 11th -97. Pictures/words on Web [Xenu]

>The pictures from the protest last saturday in Poole are now on >the Web,
>http://www.imaginet.fr/~jensting/muslinger/protest_map.html

Talk about your quality pictures! Don't miss these!

Ex-CMO

 "People who would aspire to transform the world should start by
  transforming their own life and let it serve as an inspiration for
  others. Hubbard wrote best about what he most needed to learn."
          - Joe Harrington <joeh...@worldnet.att.net>


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Future808  
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 More options Oct 15 1997, 3:00 am
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From: future...@aol.com (Future808)
Date: 1997/10/15
Subject: Re: Picket in Poole Oct 11th -97. Pictures/words on Web [Xenu]

>Anyway, mention of the PTS/SP course brought up the 2.5% >figure: supposedly

 the proportion of Suppressive People in the >population. I asked how big the
 sample size was that established >this figure. His reply (Ican't call it an
 answer) was "Well, it's based >on research, isn't it?"

This reminds me of a converstaion I had with a clam friend of mine. In the
 study tapes, LRH says that there were 12 different methods of flight around
 the time of the Orville bothers: and now we only have one.

I asked my friend: oh? What were the other 11 and what happend to them?

He looked at me dumbfounded.

I experienced the same thing: you learn or get indoctrinated to take elrons
 word as good as gold.

It was not until much later when I was out that I was able to view things
 objectively - which is key to understanding Scientology.

Ex-CMO

 "People who would aspire to transform the world should start by
  transforming their own life and let it serve as an inspiration for
  others. Hubbard wrote best about what he most needed to learn."
          - Joe Harrington <joeh...@worldnet.att.net>


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Martin Poulter  
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 More options Oct 15 1997, 3:00 am
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From: pl...@mail.bris.ac.uk (Martin Poulter)
Date: 1997/10/15
Subject: Re: Picket in Poole Oct 11th -97. Pictures/words on Web [Xenu]

In article <19971015155401.LAA17...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,

Future808 <future...@aol.com> wrote:
>>The pictures from the protest last saturday in Poole are now on >the Web,
>>http://www.imaginet.fr/~jensting/muslinger/protest_map.html

>Talk about your quality pictures! Don't miss these!

Yep, well done, Jens! I've updated the links at
http://www.demon.co.uk/castle/scientology.html#Pickets

I'm told that another set of photos from the previous picket (at Brighton)
are still to be developed.

The conversation that you see in the fourth scene on Jens' page began when
John R had successfully persuaded one mark not to go into the org to take
a personality test, resulting in his being called a rapist and murderer by
the body router. I was watching this with amusement from the other side of
the road (I'm the one with the "Body Thetans on Board" t-shirt) while
another of us was having a sit down. The other body-router (the guy with
the umbrella) came and asked us "Why are you so scared?" We said that we
we're anything but scared, but he told us that we *are* (and he should
know, shouldn't he?); "That's why you attack: you attack like rats."

We said that our point was that people should be fully informed about Scn
before they get involved in it. He said he agreed; people should know
about the Tone Scale, the Reactive Mind.... Not quite what we had in mind.
I pointed out that people are not making an informed decision if they
accept that Dianetics is scientifically proven, when it is anything but.
The body-router said that what matters is applying the things you are
taught and seeing if they made sense. He gave as an example the PTS/SP
course, which he is doing at the moment (surprise surprise!) BTW, the last
time we were in Poole, we saw that there were two charts about this course
on the walls inside the org. They didn't seem to be there this time.

Anyway, mention of the PTS/SP course brought up the 2.5% figure:
supposedly the proportion of Suppressive People in the population. I asked
how big the sample size was that established this figure. His reply (I
can't call it an answer) was "Well, it's based on research, isn't it?" I
asked if the number was changing over time, if it differs from country to
country, if it differs among age groups and so on. Guess what: he'd never
thought about it that way. In Scientology, you're given a very, very
simplistic "solution" to just about any problem, and you accept it without
thinking about it. The presence of a suppressive person (Andrea Catt) was
the explanation he gave for why the mission was doing so badly recently.
He wasn't bothered by the fact that the Mission is doing much worse now
than it ever has, and yet Andrea Catt has been out of Scn for well over a
year.

We also talked a bit about the GO 11, and how many of them are still in
good standing with Scn, even though they have been involved in serious
crime. For the body-router, this was an indication of how forgiving Scn
can be. For us, this shows how inconsistent Scn is in its policy of
blaming its own failures on "Suppressives".

The conversation ended with one of the veteran body-routers coming out of
the Org and taking the bloke with the umbrella aside. Perhaps he had
committed a breach of "ethics" by failing to keep up his hostile tone
during the conversation.

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Dave Bird---St Hippo of Augustine  
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 More options Oct 16 1997, 3:00 am
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From: Dave Bird---St Hippo of Augustine <d...@xemu.demon.co.uk>
Date: 1997/10/16
Subject: Re: Picket in Poole Oct 11th -97. Pictures/words on Web [Xenu]

In article <3444a9d2.29452...@snews.zippo.com>,
"Ted Mayett (KoX)" <te...@skylink.net> writes:

>On Wed, 15 Oct 1997 09:40:48 +0200, jenst...@imaginet.fr (Jens
>Tingleff) wrote:

>>The new pictures are on

>>    http://www.imaginet.fr/~jensting/muslinger/poole971011_a.html

>Oh my, that looks to be a very fine storefront that bookstore.  It is
>large and clean and new looking.  In fact, it looks kind of familiar.
>Like maybe it was the place photographed in The Big Story. ???

Just to correct a misapprenhension, they had a number of places.
First a large corner shop next to the Hoggshead,  then Jolyffe House
on the seafront (UK#76000 p.a. settled at the doors of the bankruptcy
court), then Dolphin House on Market Close (about #100,000 p.a. for two
years a four story prestige office building),  then the upper two
stories of the old bank building opposite the Hoggshead
with Alcatraz retaurant on the ground flor (UK#30,000 p.a.).

The samll shop unit has always been ancillary to the latest building.

I have not seen the Big Story video. I think you will find it shows
Dolphin House -- dark brown brickbuilt cube.

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NoScieno  
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 More options Oct 18 1997, 3:00 am
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From: nosci...@aol.com (NoScieno)
Date: 1997/10/18
Subject: Re: Picket in Poole Oct 11th -97. Pictures/words on Web [Xenu]

In article <19971015211300.RAA10...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,

future...@aol.com (Future808) writes:
> LRH says that there were 12 different methods of flight around
> the time of the Orville bothers: and now we only have one.

Please, oh please, please tell me LRH didn't really say "Orville brothers"
to compound the idiocy of that assertion!!!


Erm -- weren't they the Wilbur brothers?.. No that's not it, ahh, Smith
brothers - that's right!!!  Right?.. Hmmm, no they invented the cough drop,
right... NO, WRONG.  Parker brothers invented the cough drop -- damn -- no,
that was the board game.  Uhhmmn ...  Oh, I've got it:  The Wrong brothers
invented the aeroplane -- uhhh, am I *wright*?

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Ralph Hilton  
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 More options Oct 18 1997, 3:00 am
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From: Addr...@bottom.of.mail (Ralph Hilton)
Date: 1997/10/18
Subject: Re: Picket in Poole Oct 11th -97. Pictures/words on Web [Xenu]

On 18 Oct 1997 12:38:11 GMT, nosci...@aol.com (NoScieno) wrote:

>In article <19971015211300.RAA10...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
>future...@aol.com (Future808) writes:

>> LRH says that there were 12 different methods of flight around
>> the time of the Orville bothers: and now we only have one.

>Please, oh please, please tell me LRH didn't really say "Orville brothers"
>to compound the idiocy of that assertion!!!

No - he refers to the Wright brothers. Tape 6406C18 "Studying,
Introduction"

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