I've got a Christmas message to all Scientologists:

Rot in Hell You Scumbag Clams!!

Recently your scumbag OSA organisation decided to intimidate
a critic called Bob Minton by killing a neighbour's cat and
leaving it on his doorstep.

You fucking scumbags! And I use the term collectively. Just
how many of you scumbags posted to this newsgroup saying that
if something like that had happened then you did not support
it? Just how many of you said that if someone within your
organisation were killing pets then it was wrong?

Not one of you fucking scumbags said a thing.

You people are less than human. You all make me feel sick.

One of your evil bastards has gone out and killed a cat.
That could have been a beloved pet of a child in that
neighbourhood. Just what sort of Christmas will that child
have as a result of your pet murder? One of you talks about
a Christmas truce. Why? So people can reflect on your
organisations murdering cruelty? Maybe you have a pet
murder planned especially for Christmas day, aimed at
hurting children as well as pets, and you want all to be
quiet on that day so that your disgusting vicious acts
have more impact.

Disgusting lowlives. Just how many of you condemn the
vicious and cruel acts of your organisation? None of
you. You sit there and smirk and think that standard
tech is being applied by OTs and you lot don't care a
fuck that childrens lives are being shattered this
Christmas by your murdering of pets.

You people disgust me. You murdering lowlife clams.
You make me sick by your cowardly support of your
organisation that performs these cruel acts. Judged
by your silence on this newsgroup you all support these
actions. This makes you, socially, the most disgusting
group on this planet.

You are all cowards. By your silence you support the
crimes of your cult. The silence here on ars is loud.
You have the choice of comdemning these crimes but
instead you are either silent or you post in support.

Disgusting lowlives. Disgusting clams. Disgusting mafia
pet-murdering scumbags. You are all vile beyond
description. Disgusting vile and cruel brainwashed
cowardly subhuman scum. May you rot in hell you
murdering scumbags.

Just what does it do to you people when you murder a
child's pet? Do you scieno guys get an erection? Are
you that sick? Do you praise the 100% standard tech that
went into it? Do you cheer for more pet killings in
order to silence critics?

You people are sub-life. You are the most disgusting
people that have ever darkened existence. May you rot in
Hell you disgusting low-life murdering clams.

[end of Christmas message to Scientologists worldwide]

Roland

--
Xemu's Home Page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~xemu/

<snip>

Are you people proud of this lunatic?
How many of you find even a trace of
sanity in this madman's rant?
Just curious?

Amigo

In article <19971220064401.BAA08...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,

 Perhaps you should be rather chastising your fellow culties for their
libel attacks on critics first? Erin and her hate campaign, Gertie and his
libels.
Are you proud to have these shits on your side?

Never hear you or other Scientologists remonstrating with such drooling,
self deafeating obvious hat ecampaigns fed by the OSA lie machine.

Tend to that Scientology log in your eye before you worry about
Roland's mote in his eye.

Pope Charles
SubGenius Pope Of Houston
Slack!

If one didn't read the headers, your post looks a critic commenting
about 'Mankind Greatest friend and your Saviour', LRH ;)

However,  *the* difference between Roland's often tasteless rants are
that they are just that - Usenet Rants, whereas your "church's"
equivalents are actual policy, and are ruthlessly carried out, causing
pain, suffering, psychosis and even death.

How could you *not* be embarassed by the atrocity that calls itself
'ethical' and 'religious' ?

Xmas time indeed is a time to reflect.  No chance of you doing that I
suppose ?

Brett K

In <19971220064401.BAA08...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, ronsam...@aol.com

I am not proud of him and I'd wish that he would change his style. But
he was a scientologist, so it is no wonder that he is still somewhat
mentally ill. Scientology makes people mentally ill.

He certainly has some sanity. Because besides calling people "scumbags",
he made an important argument: that NO scientologist came up and said
that he wouldn't approve the activities against critics. Scientologists,
instead, accused us of having done it. I also think that most
scientologists approve it, because they hope it would "handle" critics.
You will also notice that never, never, never has scientology management
made a call to scientologists that harassment activities against critics
are illegal and shouldn't be done, and that any known harasser would be
turned in. Youself has also never protested against the harassment of
critics. In fact, yourself have *participated* in the harassment,
although just in the form of "ordinary hate", here on the newsgroup.

(Of course, if someone presents your hateful posts to a scientologist
spokesperson, she will deny that you are a scientologist, and will claim
that we have no proof that you are one!!)

The latest of this have been your disgusting posts about Steve Keller,
that are probably libellous. Of course, for you this is "ethical", as
Steve Keller is anti-scientology, therefore he is per scientology
"ethics" a criminal, and one of the people who should be put into
isolation camps. Lisa McPherson was just the beginning. But critics will
do all they can to prevent you and the other scientologists from doing
more "Lisa McPherson jobs".

Merry Xmas!

--
Tilman Hausherr        [KoX, SP4]
til...@berlin.snafu.de     http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/#cos

Keith [Henson] also assaulted the private investigator
while resisting arrest, which is why he got arrested.  
                    (from wg...@loop.com, scientology bigot)

I am proud that during a peaceful picket, Roland was repeatedly punched
in the face by a scientologist thug and he didn't hit back. He probably
still carries a wee bit of anger from that episode. Understandable.

Merry Christmas, friend of Ron. Peace on Earth.

================================================================

John Ritson's report:

    Protesters gave them extracts from the song book 'The House of the
    Grasping Clam' etc. Eventually 'higher authority' must have
    persuaded them that they were being 'non-confront' and they emerged
    to hand out copies of 'Freedom' (the anti-German issue where the
    Public Affairs Director talks about the 'Nazi regime of the 1920s
    and 1930s'). After about 45 minutes, reinforcements had arrived and
    they felt bolder. Roland Rashleigh-Berry was handing out his Xemu
    leaflet next to the door of the org when one clam grabbed a dozen
    leaflets or so, ripped them up and tried to stuff them down
    Roland's shirt. Roland pushed him away and was then punched
    repeatedly in the face by the Scientologist. Pictures of his
    blood-spattered face will soon be appearing on the Net.
    Unfortunately there were no police present at the time (they had
    been there soon after the start, called by the Scientologists, and
    were there after this incident). The incident was notified to the
    police by Roland, but he decided not to press charges of assault or
    actual bodily harm. In a case like this with no 'neutral' witnesses
    a magistrate would probably just bind both parties over to keep the
    peace, or fine them each a few quid.
--
Hud Nordin <h...@netcom.com> Silicon Valley / The City of Sunnyvale / California

In article <19971220064401.BAA08...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,

   Hmm. I'll make you a deal RonsaDodger.

   I'll satisfy your curiosity if you will mine.

   Please post the *scientific* peer reviewed data that
*proves* the efficacy of the 'tech'.

   Do that and I promise to answer your curiousity about
my opinion on Rolands Rant sooner than 47 years after
it was first asked.

BTW have you got your "Save a Kitten/ Castrate a Critic of Scientology"
T shirt or coffee mug yet? ARSCC (wdne) order number R2-45.
(As advertised on AOL "SPs are mud-people annnimaaaalls!")
A real bargoon if you buy both for $ 1000 US. Sold seperately for
$750 US. Guaranteed not to rip run ravel or smell bad. Irradiated to
ensure complete freedom from BTs.
 Make all checks payable to:
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In the grand tradition of Scientology we  accept personal checks,
Money Orders, Credit Cards, Family Heirloom  Jewelry and
Options on your First Born...........

<<<oo{ At Constant Cause Over the toronto org.}oo>>>
oo>>>{ And sentenced to Death for this SP Act. }<<<oo

["You know, people die if they criticize scientology -
      I should take care if I were you."
-Marcus Nyman, OSA (former GO), $cio-org, Stockholm, Sweden.]

 Gregg Hagglund SP4
http://www.cgocable.net/~elrond
--
" I'm sure it's obvious to all who read my stuff, that I have
serious problems when it comes to being able to communicate."
                            - -RonsAmigo, Official OSA Shill on ARS

Download the latest Xemu Flyer:
http://www.cgocable.net/~elrond/2-1ZipArch.html

(Shrug)...do you think anyone's proud of YOUR behavior here?

No, why should I be?  Why should I assume responsibility for another
individual's words?

Roland has been very badly hurt by his time in the Church of
Scientology[tm].  As a result, he occasionally indulges in such
irrational postings as the one you cite here.

I have compassion for Roland and pray that he will find the peace he
needs.  Can you say the same?

-Paul

In article <19971220064401.BAA08...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, ronsam...@aol.com

<snip>

I've been the recipient of his knee-jerk, irrational attacks;
but I can't say that I haven't found a *trace* of sanity in
what he says.  He is, you know, a product of Scientology.
I'm not surprised at his extreme volatility -- I experience
it myself at times, and attribute it to the feeling that
I've been betrayed by promises from Scientology
which the leaders know cannot be delivered.  Promises
that I believed in for an 18 - 19 year period of my life.

NoGoot

I am neither proud nor ashamed of Roland.  As far as branding him a
lunatic, look at some of your own writings.

Critics on this NG have taken Roland and other critics to task quite
a few times.

Not once has any Co$ rep EVER taken another Co$ rep to task for their
bouts of "lunacy", not once.  Sit down and have a hot cocoa, be good
to yourself and let those veins in your temples get back down to
size.

Do you mean Roland?  When you use the term "madman" that could quite
easily and understandably be confused with L. Ron Hubbard.  If you
are talking about Roland, I don't agree with his sentiments.

Of course, I also know that Roland was a member of Co$ and exposed
to the extreme reactiveness that is so pervasive in that atmosphere,
and that is a hard thing for people to break when they get out of
the Co$.

I also know tht Roland got his face beaten and punched several times
by a Co$ member at a peaceful picket.  (peaceful on the part of the
CRITICS that is).  

Let me ask you and the other Co$ members who read a.r.s., how many of
you found even a trace of sanity in that Co$ madman's actions?

Are you Co$ members proud of him beating a critic?

How come no objections were raised by any Co$ members when Roland
was beaten by a fellow Co$ member?

Hey, if you try to hold all critics accountable for the actions of one
critic, then it is only reasonable that all Co$ members should be
held accountable for the actions of one Co$ member.

Or isn't that the way you had planned on playing this game you
started here?

Just curious.

Beverly