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Unit 61  
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 More options Oct 7 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: Unit 61 <zjohnab...@execpc.com>
Date: 1997/10/07
Subject: Re: Beginner Needs Advice

Psyberdude wrote:

> Hi Everyone:

> I am new to this newsgroup. I find it very fascinating. I was a Scientologist
> and worked on staff for awhile back in Los Angeles around the late seventies.
> I was promised auditing in exchange for being on staff, but the auditing
> never appeared.
> Now I have some questions that I would like to ask some of you free-zoners.
> How do I begin to audit myself?  I've only had about two hours of auditing in
> my whole life. If I buy an E-meter, can I start self-auditing right away?

You were on staff and only had 2 hours of auditing?

Keep on smokin.

John


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Psyberdude  
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 More options Oct 7 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: d...@deepwell.com (Psyberdude)
Date: 1997/10/07
Subject: Beginner Needs Advice

Hi Everyone:

I am new to this newsgroup. I find it very fascinating. I was a Scientologist
and worked on staff for awhile back in Los Angeles around the late seventies.
I was promised auditing in exchange for being on staff, but the auditing
never appeared. Then one day it was discovered that I smoked marijuana at my
home on my own free time. (I never smoked it on staff or ever came to work
stoned.)  I was informed that I would have to stop smoking weed or I couldn't
be a Scientologist.  Well that really pissed me off, because I always liked
what weed did for me, not to mention various psychedelics such as magic
mushrooms. peyote and LSD.

Well to make a long story short, I told them all to go to hell.  And I
haven't been involved with Scientology since then. But I always felt bad
about my decision, since I instinctively KNEW that the tech was valid.  So I
just spent a lot of time using psychedelics to self-audit and this worked
pretty well, as psychedelics do tend to bring the whole track into view. I
even erased an engram that was given to me via physical abuse during my
childhood.  I erased it with help from magic mushrooms. I never agreed with
all the bull that LRH said about LSD. My experiences with psychedelics
definitely prove him wrong. But it was either give up Scientology or give up
smoke and psychedelics.  At the time, since psychedelics did more for me than
Scientology ever did, I quit Scientology.

But now, I've just discovered the Free Zone!  I never imagined that there was
anything like this.  I've heard rumors, but didn't know where to go.  And a
couple of days ago, I accidently stumbled on the American & German Free Zone
sites through the Clambake website. It felt so wonderful to find out that I
wasn't alone.  I'm so glad that these people are there. I quickly found some
great stuff to download such as the tech briefings and the sector nine book
of CBR, and the Scio book by the Pilot and the Excalibur stuff.  I also found
some cool 'tech' on other sites.  I couldn't believe that all this great
stuff was available.

Now I have some questions that I would like to ask some of you free-zoners.
How do I begin to audit myself?  I've only had about two hours of auditing in
my whole life. If I buy an E-meter, can I start self-auditing right away?  
Can I use the Excaliber stuff, or the Scio stuff to do it?  Or do I have to
have get auditing done by a free-zone auditor first, before I can learn to
self-audit?  And most important of all, I do not wish to give up smoking pot
occasionally, or to quit using an occasional psychedelic.  These substances
are not like other hard drugs which I do not use. Would a free-zoner still be
willing to audit me if I occasionally used these gifts from the Creator?  (Of
course, I would never come to an auditing session stoned, nor would I ever
carry any illegal substances on my person to an auditing session.)

Thanks for any input that you folks can give me on these questions. And
thanks for all the great work that some of you are doing to keep Scientology
free from the stranglehold of the Church.


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Tilman Hausherr  
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 More options Oct 7 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: til...@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr)
Date: 1997/10/07
Subject: Re: Beginner Needs Advice

In <61ck6s$gv...@nntp0.deepwell.com>, d...@deepwell.com (Psyberdude)
wrote:

>But now, I've just discovered the Free Zone!  I never imagined that there was
>anything like this.  I've heard rumors, but didn't know where to go.  And a
>couple of days ago, I accidently stumbled on the American & German Free Zone
>sites through the Clambake website. It felt so wonderful to find out that I
>wasn't alone.

Hehehe... very tasty: clams with mushrooms.

Tilman


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David Gerard  
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 More options Oct 8 1997, 3:00 am
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From: f...@thingy.apana.spaaaamtraaaaap.org.au (David Gerard)
Date: 1997/10/08
Subject: Re: Beginner Needs Advice

On Tue, 07 Oct 1997 18:59:31 GMT,

Tilman Hausherr <til...@berlin.snafu.de> wrote:

:In <61ck6s$gv...@nntp0.deepwell.com>, d...@deepwell.com (Psyberdude)
:wrote:

:>But now, I've just discovered the Free Zone!  I never imagined that there was
:>anything like this.  I've heard rumors, but didn't know where to go.  And a
:>couple of days ago, I accidently stumbled on the American & German Free Zone
:>sites through the Clambake website. It felt so wonderful to find out that I
:>wasn't alone.

:Hehehe... very tasty: clams with mushrooms.

I bet the CoS is really enjoying posts like that one ... REAL religious
freedom.

The Internet is the wrost thing ever to happen to the CoS for another
reason: the FreeZone - their actual direct COMPETITION - can now keep
it together in the face of clammery. And steal members out from under them!

If you wanna hit the CoS in the wallet, don't forget those Free Zone URLs.

http://www.lightlink.com/clearing/

(I am not a Free Zoner, I have no personal interest in the Tech. However,
the freezoners I've encountered on a.r.s and on IRC have consistently struck
me as a much higher class of people than the CoS members I've met there
or in real life. If the Co$ started seriously gunning for a net-conected
freezone group, I know I would be out there shouting about it and I'm fairly
sure that quite a lot of other a.r.s critics would be too.)

--
http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fun/scn/    http://www.suburbia.net/~fun/scn/
 I hereby encourage all earthlink.net users to leave for a provider whose
email and Usenet messages are not boycotted by the rest of the net, and
for ISPs to continue to block earthlink.net email and Usenet messages from
Earthlink, until earthlink.net *stop* the flow of junk email and spam.


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Eric S. Smith: Left-Field Marshal  
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 More options Oct 8 1997, 3:00 am
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From: cs...@blaze.trentu.ca (Eric S. Smith: Left-Field Marshal)
Date: 1997/10/08
Subject: Re: Beginner Needs Advice

In article <34438328.60958...@news.snafu.de>,

Tilman Hausherr <til...@berlin.snafu.de> wrote:
>In <61ck6s$gv...@nntp0.deepwell.com>, d...@deepwell.com (Psyberdude)
>wrote:

>>couple of days ago, I accidently stumbled on the American & German Free Zone
>>sites through the Clambake website. It felt so wonderful to find out that I
>>wasn't alone.

>Hehehe... very tasty: clams with mushrooms.

Yeah, I like the decision:  Scientology, or LSD?  Hell, it's pretty
obvious to me, too.  I'd rather fry my brain than crush it.

--Eric Smith
(9 out of 10 junkies agree:  L. Ron Hubbard is bad shit.)


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Perry Scott  
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 More options Oct 8 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: pe...@fc.hp.com (Perry Scott)
Date: 1997/10/08
Subject: Re: Beginner Needs Advice

Psyberdude (d...@deepwell.com) wrote:

: Hi Everyone:

Hi Dude,

: I am new to this newsgroup. I find it very fascinating. I was a Scientologist
: and worked on staff for awhile back in Los Angeles around the late seventies.
: I was promised auditing in exchange for being on staff,

The bait

: but the auditing never appeared.

and switch.

: But I always felt bad
: about my decision, since I instinctively KNEW that the tech was valid.

Check out alt.clearing.technology.  You'll find kindred spirits there.
While I don't share your views of the tech, I respect your right to
search for the answers.  a.r.s.  tends to be the place where we pull the
Overts of Co$.

: But now, I've just discovered the Free Zone!  I never imagined that there was
: anything like this.  I've heard rumors, but didn't know where to go.  And a
: couple of days ago, I accidently stumbled on the American & German Free Zone
: sites through the Clambake website. It felt so wonderful to find out that I
: wasn't alone.

OK, you're on your way.

: Now I have some questions that I would like to ask some of you free-zoners.
: How do I begin to audit myself?  I've only had about two hours of auditing in
: my whole life. If I buy an E-meter, can I start self-auditing right away?  

There are plans for free-zone E-meters.  Don't spend money on a
Co$-approved one - they are overpriced.

: Can I use the Excaliber stuff, or the Scio stuff to do it?  Or do I have to
: have get auditing done by a free-zone auditor first, before I can learn to
: self-audit?

I'd recommend asking Ralph Hilton - I understand he's somewhere near
Germany.  I think he's ralphATatnet.net, or scan a.r.s.  and a.c.t.  for
his posts.

: Thanks for any input that you folks can give me on these questions. And
: thanks for all the great work that some of you are doing to keep Scientology
: free from the stranglehold of the Church.

Are you saying the Church of Scientology does not support religious
freedom?  I wonder what Senator D'Amato would think?  <g>

Perry Scott
Co$ Escapee


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Steve Jebson  
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 More options Oct 11 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: Steve Jebson <naismith@spam_blocker.sprintmail.com>
Date: 1997/10/11
Subject: Re: Beginner Needs Advice

It is exactly that.  Aside from a few people who lucked out and got
into TTCs (full time training) I never knew anybody who got substantial
auditing while on staff.  All they give you is sec checks.

> : Now I have some questions that I would like to ask some of you free-zoners.
> : How do I begin to audit myself?  I've only had about two hours of auditing in
> : my whole life. If I buy an E-meter, can I start self-auditing right away?

> There are plans for free-zone E-meters.  Don't spend money on a
> Co$-approved one - they are overpriced.

Free Zone e-meters have existed for years.  Contact Holistic Clearing,
Box 4326, San Rafael, CA, 94913.  

I suspect that the Free Zone tech was stolen to design the new Quantum
meter.  Its principal advantage over traditional meters is the ability
to read properly in the presence of high TA, which FZ meters have had
for years.  Again, you can find people on ACT who know way more about
this subject than I do.

The Alphametrics meter costs about $900 new, roughly 1/5th the cost of
a cult meter.

> : Can I use the Excaliber stuff, or the Scio stuff to do it?  Or do I have to
> : have get auditing done by a free-zone auditor first, before I can learn to
> : self-audit?

Personally I'd recommend working with a professional at least until
you've run the grades.  If you aren't in good shape in these areas -
communication, problems, overts(misdeeds), ARC breaks (upsets),
serv facs (self-justification) - I don't think you can run solo with
any success.  I would also recommend against trying it without some
training by an experienced counselor, but these are your choices.

> I'd recommend asking Ralph Hilton - I understand he's somewhere near
> Germany.  I think he's ralphATatnet.net, or scan a.r.s.  and a.c.t.  for
> his posts.

Ralph's a good guy.  I second this.

> : Thanks for any input that you folks can give me on these questions. And
> : thanks for all the great work that some of you are doing to keep Scientology
> : free from the stranglehold of the Church.

> Are you saying the Church of Scientology does not support religious
> freedom?  I wonder what Senator D'Amato would think?  <g>

I think he's saying 'Where is that check you promised?'

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SaffronMon  
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 More options Oct 11 1997, 3:00 am
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From: saffron...@aol.com (SaffronMon)
Date: 1997/10/11
Subject: Re: Beginner Needs Advice

From: d...@deepwell.com (Psyberdude)

>Hi Everyone:

Hi back.  How'd you get on deepwell?  I thought you had to be the "I could tell
 you who I work for, but then I'd have to shoot you" type to get an account
 there.  So it's gone public?  When did that happen?

>But now, I've just discovered the Free Zone!  I never imagined
> that there was anything like this.

You really had me going until you said this!!!  I was all ready to explain why
 the drugs and such weren't a good idea.  But really that would be pointless.
 Really you're just out to smear Free Zoners.  Yes???

>How do I begin to audit myself?  

But ... why audit yourself if chemicals are superior?  What is it you'd want to
 get out of auditing?  I suppose you've started to hook me again here with this
 serious question.

Gosh.  I'm so tempted to ask if you are now or have ever been an OSA troll.
 The question doesn't seem to have seriously occurred to others.  But maybe
 you're for real.  It's hard to tell.

Saffy

-- "People do NOT get more interesting the more money you spend." --
-- "Oh yes they do, darling."  --


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