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The Green Troll  
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 More options Dec 7 2007, 4:22 pm
Newsgroups: alt.music.harry-chapin, misc.transport.road
From: The Green Troll <a...@rev.net>
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:22:57 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Dec 7 2007 4:22 pm
Subject: Naming LIE exit 40 the Cat-in-the-Cradle
Exit 40 of the Long Island Expressway is shown at <http://
terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?
T=1&S=11&Z=18&X=1554&Y=11288&W=1>. What is its design type? Should it
be named the Cat-in-the-Cradle?

-- Poe M'Noke <http://www.rev.net/~aloe/longisland>


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Steve A.  
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 More options Dec 7 2007, 5:42 pm
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From: "Steve A." <zoningper...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:42:15 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Dec 7 2007 5:42 pm
Subject: Re: Naming LIE exit 40 the Cat-in-the-Cradle
On Dec 7, 4:22 pm, The Green Troll <a...@rev.net> wrote:

> Exit 40 of the Long Island Expressway is shown at <http://
> terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?
> T=1&S=11&Z=18&X=1554&Y=11288&W=1>. What is its design type? Should it
> be named the Cat-in-the-Cradle?

> -- Poe M'Noke <http://www.rev.net/~aloe/longisland>

How about a Pepsi?

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 More options Dec 12 2007, 6:15 pm
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From: The Green Troll <a...@rev.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:15:19 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Dec 12 2007 6:15 pm
Subject: Re: Naming LIE exit 40 the Cat-in-the-Cradle
On Dec 7, 5:42 pm, "Steve A." <zoningper...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Dec 7, 4:22 pm, The Green Troll <a...@rev.net> wrote:

> > Exit 40 of the Long Island Expressway is shown at <http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=11&Z=18&X=155...>. What is its design type? Should it be named the Cat-in-the-Cradle?
> How about a Pepsi?

What's the reference?

-- Poe M'Noke <http://www.rev.net/~aloe/longisland>


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Andrew Tompkins  
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 More options Dec 12 2007, 8:12 pm
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From: Andrew Tompkins <andy...@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:12:40 -0800
Local: Wed, Dec 12 2007 8:12 pm
Subject: Re: Naming LIE exit 40 the Cat-in-the-Cradle

The Green Troll wrote:
> On Dec 7, 5:42 pm, "Steve A." <zoningper...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 7, 4:22 pm, The Green Troll <a...@rev.net> wrote:

>>> Exit 40 of the Long Island Expressway is shown at <http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=11&Z=18&X=155...>. What is its design type? Should it be named the Cat-in-the-Cradle?

>> How about a Pepsi?

> What's the reference?

The circle with the parallel squiggles in the Pepsi logo.

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The Green Troll  
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 More options Dec 13 2007, 5:26 pm
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From: The Green Troll <a...@rev.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:26:57 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Dec 13 2007 5:26 pm
Subject: Re: Naming LIE exit 40 the Cat-in-the-Cradle
On Dec 12, 8:12 pm, Andrew Tompkins <andy...@comcast.net> wrote:

> The Green Troll wrote:
> > On Dec 7, 5:42 pm, "Steve A." <zoningper...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Dec 7, 4:22 pm, The Green Troll <a...@rev.net> wrote:

> >>> Exit 40 of the Long Island Expressway is shown at <http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=11&Z=18&X=155...>. What is its design type? Should it be named the Cat-in-the-Cradle?

> >> How about a Pepsi?

> > What's the reference?

> The circle with the parallel squiggles in the Pepsi logo.

Makes sense.

How do we memorialize Harry Chapin, then? Exit 41 at <http://
terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=11&Z=18&X=1559&Y=11289&W=1> is
practically a conventional cloverleaf.

-- Poe M'Noke <http://www.rev.net/~aloe/interchange>


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Andrew Tompkins  
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 More options Dec 13 2007, 5:42 pm
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From: Andrew Tompkins <andy...@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:42:30 -0800
Local: Thurs, Dec 13 2007 5:42 pm
Subject: Re: Naming LIE exit 40 the Cat-in-the-Cradle

Why do we need to memorialize people, particularly people who have
little or nothing to do with roads, on or with our roads?  I can see
memorializing someone who dies while building a structure by naming the
structure after that person, but otherwise, I just don't see the
purpose.  There are better ways to memorialize people.

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 More options Dec 19 2007, 8:00 pm
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From: The Green Troll <a...@rev.net>
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:00:17 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Dec 19 2007 8:00 pm
Subject: Re: Naming LIE exit 40 the Cat-in-the-Cradle
On Dec 13, 5:42 pm, Andrew Tompkins <andy...@comcast.net> wrote:

> The Green Troll wrote:
> > How do we memorialize Harry Chapin, then? Exit 41 at <http://
> > terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=11&Z=18&X=1559&Y=11289&W=1> is
> > practically a conventional cloverleaf.

> Why do we need to memorialize people, particularly people who have
> little or nothing to do with roads, on or with our roads?  I can see
> memorializing someone who dies while building a structure by naming the
> structure after that person, but otherwise, I just don't see the
> purpose.  There are better ways to memorialize people.

Abraham LIncoln didn't dig tunnels. What name would you attach to the
so-called Lincoln Tunnel under the Hudson River? Is it acceptable
because it has been linkin' Midtown Manhattan and Weehawken for
decades? Ever wonder why it isn't called the Hamilton Tunnel?

What would you rename the Alexander Hamilton Bridge across the Harlem
River?

Should a subway line be named after Harriet Tubman of the Underground
Railroad?

-- Buster <http://www.rev.net/~aloe/transporation>


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 More options Dec 19 2007, 8:29 pm
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From: The Green Troll <a...@rev.net>
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:29:21 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Dec 19 2007 8:29 pm
Subject: Re: Naming LIE exit 40 the Cat-in-the-Cradle
On Dec 12, 8:12 pm, Andrew Tompkins <andy...@comcast.net> wrote:

> The Green Troll wrote:
> > On Dec 7, 5:42 pm, "Steve A." <zoningper...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Dec 7, 4:22 pm, The Green Troll <a...@rev.net> wrote:

> >>> Exit 40 of the Long Island Expressway is shown at <http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=11&Z=18&X=155...>. What is its design type? Should it be named the Cat-in-the-Cradle?

> >> How about aPepsi?

> > What's the reference?

> The circle with the parallel squiggles in thePepsilogo.

There's a larger, messier version at <http://terraserver-usa.com/
image.aspx?T=1&S=11&Z=18&X=1405&Y=11262&W=3&qs=%7cunion%7cnj%7c>.
Would that be a Dyspepsi?

-- Buster <http://www.rev.net/~aloe/jersey>


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 More options Dec 20 2007, 1:05 am
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From: Andrew Tompkins <andy...@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:05:20 -0800
Local: Thurs, Dec 20 2007 1:05 am
Subject: Re: Naming LIE exit 40 the Cat-in-the-Cradle

Got anything that says that the Lincoln Tunnel was named for Abraham
Lincoln?  I couldn't find anything that said how they came up with the name.

> What would you rename the Alexander Hamilton Bridge across the Harlem
> River?

There are literally millions of names available.

> Should a subway line be named after Harriet Tubman of the Underground
> Railroad?

Did I advocate this?  Besides 'underground' in that context didn't
reference being under the land surface, it referenced being outside the
common knowledge.  And 'railroad' was more a catchy word for a
transportation corridor than an actual road of rails (being the fastest
way to get around at the time).

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 More options Dec 27 2007, 7:00 pm
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From: The Green Troll <a...@rev.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:00:07 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 7:00 pm
Subject: Re: Naming LIE exit 40 the Cat-in-the-Cradle
On Dec 20, 1:05 am, Andrew Tompkins <andy...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Got anything that says that theLincoln Tunnel was named for Abraham
> Lincoln?  I couldn't find anything that said how they came up with the name.

How silly of me. Obviously, the original plans must have called for
the tunnel to connect the capital of Nebraska with Lincoln in England,
but they barely completed the section under the Hudson River before
hitting impenetrable bedrock on both sides. Previously, Peter
Stuyvesant intended the Holland Tunnel to reach the mother country,
but a British invasion caused an avalanche that filled it with rolling
stones.

> The Green Troll wrote:
> > What would you rename the Alexander Hamilton Bridge across the Harlem
> > River?

> There are literally millions of names available.

Can you come up with five that won't refer to non-transportation
people?

> > Should a subway line be named after Harriet Tubman of the Underground
> > Railroad?

> Did I advocate this?

What do you advocate?

-- Buster <http://www.rev.net/~aloe/transportation>


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 More options Dec 27 2007, 8:12 pm
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From: Andrew Tompkins <andy...@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:12:40 -0800
Local: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 8:12 pm
Subject: Re: Naming LIE exit 40 the Cat-in-the-Cradle

The Green Troll wrote:
> On Dec 20, 1:05 am, Andrew Tompkins <andy...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Got anything that says that theLincoln Tunnel was named for Abraham
>> Lincoln?  I couldn't find anything that said how they came up with the name.

> How silly of me. Obviously, the original plans must have called for
> the tunnel to connect the capital of Nebraska with Lincoln in England,
> but they barely completed the section under the Hudson River before
> hitting impenetrable bedrock on both sides. Previously, Peter
> Stuyvesant intended the Holland Tunnel to reach the mother country,
> but a British invasion caused an avalanche that filled it with rolling
> stones.

Not an answer.  Question is still open and now applies to any city names
also.

>> The Green Troll wrote:
>>> What would you rename the Alexander Hamilton Bridge across the Harlem
>>> River?
>> There are literally millions of names available.

> Can you come up with five that won't refer to non-transportation
> people?

Still millions.

>>> Should a subway line be named after Harriet Tubman of the Underground
>>> Railroad?
>> Did I advocate this?

> What do you advocate?

Not an answer.  ATFQ.

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 More options Dec 27 2007, 10:01 pm
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From: "Scott M. Kozel" <koze...@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:01:09 -0500
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Subject: Re: Naming LIE exit 40 the Cat-in-the-Cradle