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KIV11  
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(1 user)  More options Apr 29, 10:13 am
Newsgroups: alt.freemasonry, alt.conspiracy, uk.local.hampshire, alt.masonic.members, alt.slack
From: KIV11 <KI...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:13:54 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Apr 29 2008 10:13 am
Subject: Re: Freemasons' Hall, London - United Grand Lodge of England - Filmed Undercover
On Apr 29, 4:03 am, Dave <s.f.osw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1541692698470701125

> You only need to complete a quick google search to find out what the
> freemasons are all about and the controversy surrounding them. I
> secretly obtained this video via deception. I would like to apologies
> for the pore quality and the lengthy scenes of no interest also the
> bad audio. Please understand that my activities had to be concealed
> and at times near impossible to carry on filming without being
> discovered.

Don't know why you had to do this in secret since the hall is open for
filming, see attached:

Freemasons' Hall For Hire
The building is fully open to the public.

Venue Capacities
Receptions up to 1200
Dinners From 25 to 250
Conferences up to 1000

For more than a decade Freemasons’ Hall has been available as a
location for film and television productions and for photographic
shoots. Television work has run from “Poirot”  and “Jeeves and
Wooster”, through one off dramas (including the award winning
“Churchill: The Gathering Storm” with Albert Finney and Vanessa
Redgrave), “Shackleton” with Kenneth Branagh and “The Lost World”,
‘Hustle’ advertisements and pop promo videos including Westlifes
‘Mandy’ to appearing in every episode of the popular BBC series
“Spooks”, “Hustle”, the recent Richard Curtis TV Film "Girl in the
Café" and the new Stephen Poliakoff TV series “Friends and
Crocodiles”.  Feature films include “Wings of a Dove”, “Cody Banks 2”,
“Johnny English”, “The Saint”, “Life and Death of Peter Sellers”
“Hitchiker’s Guide to the Galaxy” “Basic Instinct II: Risk Addiction”
starring Sharon Stone and the upcoming ‘Penelope’ starring Reese
Witherspoon.  We were also used as the backdrop for the 2006
Aquascutum campaign starring Pierce Brosnan.

It would appear, to me, that you are trying to make a big deal about
nothing, just like every other anti-mason, conspiracy fan who posts to
this newsgroup.

This magnificent art deco building in Covent Garden was designed by H
V Ashley and Winton Newman. Built in 1933.

It is the perfect setting for a range of events including Product
Launches, Fashion Shows, Conferences, Drink Receptions and Dinner
Dances. With previous events including parties for the Hitchikers
Guide to the Galaxy film premiere, King Kong film premiere and Monty
Python’s Spamalot opening night party. It is a venue with an
established and well respected reputation.

In 2003, 2004 and 2005 Freemasons’ Hall was nominated by the industry
as one of the top London locations for availability, accessibility and
services offered to film makers.

In 2005 we successfully hosted events for London Fashion Week and the
Lancome Design Awards, together with the Premiere Parties for
‘Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy’ and ‘King Kong’. In 2006 we have
hosted the Julien MacDonald Fashion Show, Alternative Hair Show and
the opening night party for Monty Python’s ‘Spamalot’.

We are now happy to make this venue available for Conferences, Product
Launches, Fashion Shows, Film Premieres, Record / Film launches and
Drink Receptions.

For further information on hiring Freemasons' Hall. Please contact:
Karen Haigh on 020 7395 9350

Additional photos courtesy of Create, Alternative Hair Show and Getty
images.

Copyright 2002: The United Grand Lodge of England
Created by and maintained by: U.G.L.E.


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From: "'Mike'" <3d...@woolies.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:46:51 +0100
Local: Tues, Apr 29 2008 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: Freemasons' Hall, London - United Grand Lodge of England - Filmed Undercover

They continually state that to be a freemason you must believe in a
supreme being, but no where is there any mention of God, Christ or any
other saint.

And you don't know why that is?

Sorry Sir, you have not grasped Freemasonry and what it is about. All you
have done is make a fool of yourself by NOT grasping the concepts of the
Craft.

0/10 for trying to bring Freemasonry into disrepute.

Question Number ONE for today's Homework

Why is God not mentioned

Question Number TWO

What is meant 'When the Sun is at its Meridian'?

Question THREE

State which Countries in the World which practice Freemasonry

(Mind your answers to Questions TWO and THREE because they are linked and
could cause you to trip up again)

Might I respectfully suggest that you stop your silly game of knocking
Freemasonry and take up knitting squares for the homeless? A MUCH more
worthwhile and useful past time

Fraternally Yours

Mike

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From: "'Mike'" <3d...@woolies.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:48:56 +0100
Local: Tues, Apr 29 2008 1:48 pm
Subject: Re: Freemasons' Hall, London - United Grand Lodge of England - Filmed Undercover

> Anyways, I will not be pursuing this thread any further after this.
> Many thanks,

He he, bitten off more than he can chew :-))

NEXT PLEASE

Mike

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From: "SODDI" <n...@void.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:58:58 -0400
Local: Tues, Apr 29 2008 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: Freemasons' Hall, London - United Grand Lodge of England - Filmed Undercover

"'Mike'" <3d...@woolies.com> wrote:

> Why is God not mentioned

It's the Freemasons' one half-hearted attempt at being sensible, rational
human beings.

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From: "'Mike'" <3d...@woolies.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:18:51 +0100
Local: Tues, Apr 29 2008 3:18 pm
Subject: Re: Freemasons' Hall, London - United Grand Lodge of England - Filmed Undercover
Your twisted hatred of Freemasonry knows no bounds

You are sick. Go and see a Doctor

Mike

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From: innerjewel <fiatlu...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:30:23 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Apr 29 2008 3:30 pm
Subject: Re: Freemasons' Hall, London - United Grand Lodge of England - Filmed Undercover
Why do some Trolls and KoOks choose not to archive their rants? For
posterity I have chosen to cut and paste this post into my own so it
won't disappear in a week.

>"Freemasons' Hall in London is the headquarters of the United Grand

Lodge of England and a meeting place for the Masonic Lodges in the
London area. It is in Great Queen Street between Holborn and Covent
Garden and has been a Masonic meeting place since 1775."

>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1541692698470701125
>You only need to complete a quick google search to find out what the

freemasons are all about and the controversy surrounding them. I
secretly obtained this video via deception. I would like to apologies
for the pore quality and the lengthy scenes of no interest also the
bad audio. Please understand that my activities had to be concealed
and at times near impossible to carry on filming without being
discovered.

Again, you did not have to conceal your activities. You were being
deceptive for no reason.
You should apologies for your pore spelling and creepy behaviour.

>The feeling of the lodge is an extremely earry place to be. References

in the masonry are extremely sadistic and are in many a reference to
"a supreme being", but no mentioned or depiction of Christ or any
other heavenly being (namely the God) is present. Having said that
however, there was nothing that resembled Satan.

You were not at any time in a Lodge. You were in the Hall where Lodges
meet and there is a difference.
Why would there be any mention of Christ or Mohammed in the hall?
There is no mention of Christ at a Boy Scouts meeting either but there
are references to a nonspecific Deity. This is because we don't
exclude brethren based on their particular religion.

>Security is very tight with every point covered by advanced video

surveillance. Throughout I was in the company of a mason (not in the
knowledge of what I was doing. Never the less there were others
standing behind corners observing and trying not to be noticed but
did
not seem worried that I new they were there, sometimes revealing
themselves only to return behind the scenes again.

Can you blame them for wanting to protect themselves from the
questionable activities of people with ulterior motives lurking around
the hall? It's not like they had a big net waiting for you. The only
thin "earry" about this film is you lurking around making rustling
noises under your trenchcoat.

>There were others there notably two females whom I managed to get in

shot. Also others whom I did not. It seems as if they were getting
ready for some kind of a production.

>I hope that this video can contribute in someway to the end of the

freemasons and their activities and that they are not in any way
oblivious to penetration

So you admit that you would like to see the end of Freemasons and our
activities.
I think you are a bit mixed up and should get some help. You have
accomplished little but providing yet more evidence that the
detractors of Freemasonry are a bunch of fruitcakes.


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From: nenslo <nen...@hahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:53:17 -0400
Local: Tues, Apr 29 2008 12:53 pm
Subject: Re: Freemasons' Hall, London - United Grand Lodge of England - Filmed Undercover
In article
<7df3666a-6344-4d52-a568-c8ccec49a...@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

 Dave <s.f.osw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You only need to complete a quick google search to find out what the
> freemasons are all about and the controversy surrounding them.

What do you search for to wake you back up again?

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Larry The Mason from Holbrook  
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From: Larry The Mason from Holbrook <larry.the.mason.from.holbr...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:16:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Apr 29 2008 4:16 pm
Subject: Re: Freemasons' Hall, London - United Grand Lodge of England - Filmed Undercover
On Apr 29, 11:33 am, Dave <s.f.osw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Question Number ONE for today's Homework

> > Why is God not mentioned

> Masons worship a god which they call the Great Architect of the
> Universe.

Sorry, but as a Masonic organization we do no worshiping.  We each
have our own selected system of belief, whether it be Christianity in
some form, Judiasm, Hinduism or some other system, and we do our
worshiping as prescribed by our system of belief.

As men of faith we all understand that an important undertaking should
not be started without seeking the aid of Deity, and so we make a
generic prayer to the Supreme Creator using a symbolic title of
Supreme Architect or Great Architect.  Masons understand this is only
a symbol and would privately replace it with the name they normally
use.  So, a Christian would make his prayer to Jesus Christ, a Jew
would make his to God (guessing, I'm not Jewish), and so on.

Most Masons would accept the symbolism of the Eye of Providence as
representing the Supreme Creator, but it is again only a symbol used.
Whatever symbolism or name defined by each Mason's system of belief
would be considered by them the true symbol or name.

> The symbol they have chosen to represent their god is the
> All Seeing Eye, which the Egyptians used to represent their pagan god,
> Osiris. In short they are pagans.

One would expect that the symbol of an organization's god would be
present in every single one of their gathering places, right?  One
would find the cross adorning every Christian Church, the Star of
David visible in every Jewish Synagogue, but the Eye of Providence
cannot be found in every single Masonic Lodge.  The logical
explanation is that it really isn't a symbol of some masonic god.

For me, the symbol reminds me of the omnipresence of Deity, but it is
the Deity described by my system of belief.  Masonry does not describe
Deity because it is not a religion; it's a fraternity.


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From: Zapanaz <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:50:00 -0700
Subject: Re: Freemasons' Hall, London - United Grand Lodge of England - Filmed Undercover

>In article
><7df3666a-6344-4d52-a568-c8ccec49a...@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> Dave <s.f.osw...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> You only need to complete a quick google search to find out what the
>> freemasons are all about and the controversy surrounding them.

You only need to do a quick google search to find out there are a lot
of nutcases out there who have replaced the traditional "great jewish
conspiracy" with "the great Freemason conspiracy".

Generally, people who believe all aspects of their lives are affected
by some great evil conspiracy are paranoiacs with serious mental
health issues.  They use the belief in a massive conspiracy to weave
their individual paranoid observations together.

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From: "'Mike'" <3d...@woolies.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:54:19 +0100
Local: Tues, Apr 29 2008 4:54 pm
Subject: Re: Freemasons' Hall, London - United Grand Lodge of England - Filmed Undercover

"Zapanaz" <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl> wrote in message

news:b_2dnR0S5vUAFIrVnZ2dnUVZ_rzinZ2d@zhonka.net...

Have you ever found one who could actually state that he had been done any
harm by Freemasonry and give facts, dates and figures?

No, neither have I!

Mike

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From: KIV11 <KI...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:15:03 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Apr 29 2008 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: Freemasons' Hall, London - United Grand Lodge of England - Filmed Undercover
On Apr 29, 4:54 pm, "'Mike'" <3d...@woolies.com> wrote:

> Have you ever found one who could actually state that he had been done any
> harm by Freemasonry and give facts, dates and figures?

Maurice Kellett, of course w