Bob Ward <bobw...@email.com> wrote: > On 19 May 2008 17:19:13 GMT, xhos...@gmail.com wrote:
> >Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote: > >> dilbert firestorm <scan...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote: > >> >Les Albert wrote: > >> >> Look at the right-side door. It says, "Equipped with Thermo > >> >> Tracs". Thermo Tracs is a two-way staellite communication system > >> >> that tracks and reports refrigeration status.
> >> >that satellite tracking part is rather obvious, but I don't think > >> >Thermo is a dead give-a-away that the truck is refrigerated.
> >> It would be to me. Thermo translates to "temperature". Since I can't > >> imagine any reason for something bigger than a pizza delivery > >> hatchback to be heated, that leaves refrigeration.
> >One might want to monitor the temperature of a shipment where the > >temperature is not controlled. Probably less likely than wanting to > >monitor the temperature of a shipment where it is controlled, but > >certainly not out of the question.
> In that case real-time monitoring would not be an issue - they have > inexpensive indicator labels that would tell the story on arrival - > like the shock-guard sensors.
Couldn't this apply to refrigerated shipments, too? I guess the shipping and storage of indicator labels with a below-ambient set-point would be more problematic.
But anyway, now that I think about it, I don't see what you get out of the remote/real-time thing, regardless of whether the max allowed is room temperature or below room temperature. What can I do about it sitting at my computer 1500 miles away, other than call the driver and yell at him over something he already knows and presumably can't do anything about?
Xho
-- -------------------- http://NewsReader.Com/ -------------------- The costs of publication of this article were defrayed in part by the payment of page charges. This article must therefore be hereby marked advertisement in accordance with 18 U.S.C. Section 1734 solely to indicate this fact.
On 19 May 2008 22:04:31 GMT, xhos...@gmail.com wrote:
>But anyway, now that I think about it, I don't see what you get out of the >remote/real-time thing, regardless of whether the max allowed is room >temperature or below room temperature. What can I do about it sitting at >my computer 1500 miles away, other than call the driver and yell at him >over something he already knows and presumably can't do anything about?
He might not know about it, and might be able to get the reefer fixed if he did. The computer could be set to alarm at a very small temperature increase.
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Bob Ward wrote: > On 19 May 2008 22:04:31 GMT, xhos...@gmail.com wrote:
>> But anyway, now that I think about it, I don't see what you get out of the >> remote/real-time thing, regardless of whether the max allowed is room >> temperature or below room temperature. What can I do about it sitting at >> my computer 1500 miles away, other than call the driver and yell at him >> over something he already knows and presumably can't do anything about?
> He might not know about it, and might be able to get the reefer fixed > if he did. The computer could be set to alarm at a very small > temperature increase.
And since you're already sending telemetry data about the trailer and its on-board diesel-powered refrigeration unit I can see where you might include other error conditions, such as engine over-speed, high engine temp, low oil pressure, low refrigerant pressure, low fuel and so on. Really, it is limited by your sensor budget and how much bandwidth on the bird(s) that you're willing to pay for.
-- "Thank heavens I'm atheist, otherwise I'd be in fear of going to hell." Veronique explains comparative religion.
> >> >> > Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense.
> >> >> That was my assumption and the underlying reason for my use of "reefers".
> >> >how do you know its a reefer? I wouldn't know from looking at this picture.
> >> Look at the right-side door. It says, "Equipped with Thermo Tracs". > >> Thermo Tracs is a two-way staellite communication system that tracks > >> and reports refrigeration status.
> >> Les
> >that satellite tracking part is rather obvious, but I don't think Thermo > >is a dead give-a-away that the truck is refrigerated.
> It says, "Equipped with Thermo Tracs". Thermo Tracs is a registered, > trade-marked name for a two-way staellite communication system that > tracks and reports refrigeration status.
> Les
and "Thermo" is on letter less then "Thermos", which obviously has nothing to do with hot &/or cold.
>> >> >> > Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense.
>> >> >> That was my assumption and the underlying reason for my use of "reefers".
>> >> >how do you know its a reefer? I wouldn't know from looking at this picture.
>> >> Look at the right-side door. It says, "Equipped with Thermo Tracs". >> >> Thermo Tracs is a two-way staellite communication system that tracks >> >> and reports refrigeration status.
>> >> Les
>> >that satellite tracking part is rather obvious, but I don't think Thermo >> >is a dead give-a-away that the truck is refrigerated.
>> It says, "Equipped with Thermo Tracs". Thermo Tracs is a registered, >> trade-marked name for a two-way staellite communication system that >> tracks and reports refrigeration status.
>> Les
> and "Thermo" is on letter less then "Thermos", which obviously > has nothing to do with hot &/or cold.
On Mon, 19 May 2008 15:51:04 -0700, Bob Ward <bobw...@email.com> wrote:
>On 19 May 2008 22:04:31 GMT, xhos...@gmail.com wrote:
>>But anyway, now that I think about it, I don't see what you get out of the >>remote/real-time thing, regardless of whether the max allowed is room >>temperature or below room temperature. What can I do about it sitting at >>my computer 1500 miles away, other than call the driver and yell at him >>over something he already knows and presumably can't do anything about?
>He might not know about it, and might be able to get the reefer fixed >if he did. The computer could be set to alarm at a very small >temperature increase.
No need for a computer. Just send my parents to ride along with him, and if he so much as waves a butane lighter anywhere near the reefer, they'll be the first to know.
> >> >> > Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense.
> >> >> That was my assumption and the underlying reason for my use of "reefers".
> >> >how do you know its a reefer? I wouldn't know from looking at this picture.
> >> Look at the right-side door. It says, "Equipped with Thermo Tracs". > >> Thermo Tracs is a two-way staellite communication system that tracks > >> and reports refrigeration status.
> >> Les
> >that satellite tracking part is rather obvious, but I don't think Thermo > >is a dead give-a-away that the truck is refrigerated.
> >> >> > Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense.
> >> >> That was my assumption and the underlying reason for my use of "reefers".
> >> >how do you know its a reefer? I wouldn't know from looking at this picture.
> >> Look at the right-side door. It says, "Equipped with Thermo Tracs". > >> Thermo Tracs is a two-way staellite communication system that tracks > >> and reports refrigeration status.
> >> Les
> >that satellite tracking part is rather obvious, but I don't think Thermo > >is a dead give-a-away that the truck is refrigerated.
> It says, "Equipped with Thermo Tracs". Thermo Tracs is a registered, > trade-marked name for a two-way staellite communication system that > tracks and reports refrigeration status.
> Les
I don't mean to be snarky. the average driver isn't going to know that the trailer is a reefer or refrigerated just by looking from the behind.
"thermo" doesn't necessarily mean refrigerated. it may just have a vent or fan to let outside air cool the inside to a some tempature that the tracking device will transmit to the satellite.
the only way a driver would know its refrigerated drove up further along the truck and sees a refrigeration unit sticking out in front of the trailer or the trailer is clearly carrying produce, that a driver would normally assume that the trailer is refrigerated.
<scan...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote: >Les Albert wrote: >> On Mon, 19 May 2008 03:25:16 -0500, dilbert firestorm >> <scan...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote: >> >Les Albert wrote: >> >> On Sun, 18 May 2008 19:20:49 -0500, dilbert firestorm >> >> <scan...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote: >> >> >Blinky the Shark wrote: >> >> >> ZBicyclist wrote: >> >> >> > Blinky the Shark wrote: >> >> >> >> Here's some tech I didn't know about. >> >> >> >> Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite. >> >> >> >> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/thermosat.jpg >> >> >> > Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense. >> >> >> That was my assumption and the underlying reason for my use of "reefers". >> >> >how do you know its a reefer? I wouldn't know from looking at this picture. >> >> Look at the right-side door. It says, "Equipped with Thermo Tracs". >> >> Thermo Tracs is a two-way staellite communication system that tracks >> >> and reports refrigeration status. >> >> Les >> >that satellite tracking part is rather obvious, but I don't think Thermo >> >is a dead give-a-away that the truck is refrigerated. >> It says, "Equipped with Thermo Tracs". Thermo Tracs is a registered, >> trade-marked name for a two-way staellite communication system that >> tracks and reports refrigeration status. >> Les >I don't mean to be snarky. the average driver isn't going to know that >the trailer is a reefer or refrigerated just by looking from the behind. >"thermo" doesn't necessarily mean refrigerated. it may just have a vent >or fan to let outside air cool the inside to a some tempature that the >tracking device will transmit to the satellite. >the only way a driver would know its refrigerated drove up further along >the truck and sees a refrigeration unit sticking out in front of the >trailer or the trailer is clearly carrying produce, that a driver would >normally assume that the trailer is refrigerated.
Not just "thermo", but the entire phrase "Equipped With Thermo Tracs" indicates it is a refrigerated truck to the average driver. "Thermo Tracs" is a trade-marked name for a two-way staellite communication system that tracks and reports refrigeration status. All average drivers know that.
