Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 12:26:38 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, May 9 2008 3:26 pm
Subject: Re: Video on Adwords - Feedback Please
On May 8, 2:03 pm, "Brian Carter" <bbcar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Dan,
I wrote about it a bit the other day in a blog post (http://
> That's an interesting metric. We're pretty diligent about getting conversion
www.seofaststart.com/blog/split-testing-adwords-youre-doing-it-wrong) that I did for my readers who hate to watch video, but I've been talking about "profit per SERP" since 2003. I was trying to explain to a client why the keywords in their report
Which stuck with me, because the one thing a search marketer can't
Because almost all of our members @ Stompernet are business owners,
This has relevance beyond paid search. One of my students worked with
This was a simple matter of doing as I describe in the video - making
It gets a little trickier in a publicly traded company, because "more
> Conversion optimization might arguably not be a PPC skill or responsibility,
For an agency, yes, this is more difficult. You've either got to sell
> but it gets frustrating when you've taken the results as far as you can with > ads and keywords and adgroup structure. Unless/until we get a person whose > entire job is evangelizing and implementing conversion optimization, I think > it's going to fall to us. conversion & usability work right from the start, gain buy-in after the fact, or just never work with anyone who isn't already good at it. I've almost always worked on a performance basis, and tried to tie
Performance based pay is a double-edged sword, but it does help
> One area I'm unhappy with is the inability to follow keywords and ads
This is a tough issue. Without some kind of CRM integration, all you
> through to the sale on lead-generation campaigns. I understand SalesForce > enables that, but getting our clients on a new CRM could be like pulling > teeth. We're also looking at ways internally (with our own tools) to make > that happen. can really get is cost per lead. Unfortunately, "cost per lead" is about as useful a metric as "cost per click." It looks like it's closer to the truth, but you're still not measuring the right thing... and generating bad leads to hit a "cost per lead" number can have huge ripple effects. Bad leads affect the performance of a sales team, which affects their compensation, turnover (voluntary and otherwise), and it can be worse than doing nothing. A small company can just switch 800 numbers and email addresses when
> Thanks for putting us on your list, and for the great material. I also
Thanks! SEOFS 2008 is coming in 7 days, and PPC Fast Start is June 1.
> enjoyed your "page rank sculpting" discussion in your 2007 SEO pdf. Great > stuff. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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