Google Groups Home
Help | Sign in
Message from discussion Adwords Quality Score Questions
The group you are posting to is a Usenet group. Messages posted to this group will make your email address visible to anyone on the Internet.
Your reply message has not been sent.
Your post was successful
dan.thies@gmail.com  
View profile
 More options May 13, 6:01 pm
From: "dan.th...@gmail.com" <dan.th...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 15:01:32 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, May 13 2008 6:01 pm
Subject: Re: Adwords Quality Score Questions
Brian,

A dynamic landing page can be used, however the bot will not read the
destination URL with every search query that might trigger your ad
(that would be mighty expensive), so even if you pass the keyword
(using DKI) as a variable in the destination URL, I don't think it's
going to help with landing page quality.

The only reason to use separate campaigns would be to manage different
campaign options like geographic targeting, or day & time. "Hotels
Boston" doesn't make much sense to geotarget to Boston, but "lawn
mowing Boston" certainly might.

On May 13, 3:52 pm, "Brian Carter" <bbcar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Eron,

> *** To answer the first question...

> As far as I can see, in the AdWords help:http://adwords.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=75004
> it doesn't look like DKI per se would affect your quality score.

> Did your "gurus" have a reference for their opinion?  ;-)

> In fact, that help screen argues that if DKI increases CTR, then your
> quality score increases.

> The only way I can see an exception to this logic is in terms of whether the
> keyword, ad, and landing page (LP) semantic focus are less tightly related
> because of DKI- but as the help page says "each keyword's Quality Score is
> determined *after the keyword is triggered and inserted into the ad* seen by
> the user. This is true of any AdWords text ad, where the ad and keyword are
> included in the Quality Score evaluation. Each ad variation and keyword
> combination will undergo its own Quality Score evaluation"

> So the quality score evaluation is not made on the basis of the
> {KeyWord:title} you type in, but the actual keyword, and the final ad the
> user sees.  Unless what you're doing with DKI is sending them to an LP
> that's so general that the keyword and ad don't match the LP very well, I
> would disagree.

> Some people have used PHP/ASP/CFM to create dynamic landing pages (not sure
> if that would be "White Hat PPC" though), and in that case, your dynamic ad
> and dynamic LP would always fit the keyword.

> *** For your second question:

> I would say NO.  Quality score is calculated on two bases- per keyword (in
> relation to the ads and the landing pages it goes to) and the average for
> your entire account.

> Here, refer tohttp://adwords.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=87408"The
> performance of the keyword's ad group or campaign does not have extra
> weight in determining its Quality Score. Quality Score does, however, factor
> in the historical CTR of your entire account."

> But if you put them in ad groups whereby the ads work better with those
> keywords, then YES.  From the same help screen, "If you move a keyword to an
> ad group with more relevant ads, therefore, its Quality Score may improve.
> Similarly, the Quality Score may decrease if the ads are less relevant."

> Hope that helps!
> Brian

> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Eron <goo...@longmeadcrossing.com> wrote:

> > I have an Adwords campaign that currently has keywords that consist of
> > lists
> > my service and a city name. For instance, "lawn mowing springfield", "lawn
> > mowing Peticoat Junction","lawn mowing pittsburgh","lawn mowing boston",
> > etc.  I have individual landing pages for each city that pertain to that
> > particular locale.

> > My questions are regarding keywords and ad text vs. quality scores from
> > Google:

> > 1) In the opinions of the guru's out there, am I being penalized because I
> > am using dynamic keyword replacement in my headline via {keyword} - would
> > I
> > be better served hardwiring a keyword in or setting up separate campaigns
> > for each city?
> > 2) And, Would my quality score improve any if instead of specifying the
> > URLs
> > of my individual city landing pages inside of one campaign, if instead I
> > setup separate campaigns for each city?

> > Thank you.

> --
> Brian Carter
> Fuel Interactive
> Director of Search Marketinghttp://www.fuelinteractive.comhttp://www.twitter.com/briancarterhttp:...


    Reply to author    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.

Create a group - Google Groups - Google Home - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy
©2008 Google