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 More options Mar 1 2005, 7:48 pm
From: "MDP" <mon...@gol.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 16:48:57 -0800
Local: Tues, Mar 1 2005 7:48 pm
Subject: Re: Additional errors in Mr. Clark's Feb. 17 column
Making mistakes is unavoidable, but it is something else to write
things one knows to be incorrect. Looking over these threads and
reading Mr Clark in the Japan Times, one can begin to suspect the later.

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 More options Mar 3 2005, 8:17 pm
From: "Steve" <steve.g.sil...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 17:17:45 -0800
Local: Thurs, Mar 3 2005 8:17 pm
Subject: Re: Additional errors in Mr. Clark's Feb. 17 column
Mr. Clark is consistent in one respect -- he consistently misrepresents
and distorts facts in his columns to support his views, and decries
anyone who disagrees with him as having a racist attitude toward Japan
(which must mean that the Japanese lawyers for the plaintiffs and the
Japanese judges that have decided in favor of the plaintiffs must have
some kind of racist attitude towards their own people). In fact,
wanting to eliminate racial discrimination (or "organizing society
based on factors of race", one of Mr. Clark's favorite misnomers) is
really the highest respect and honor for the Japanese people, as it
assumes that racial discrimination is not the norm and that those who
practice it are well outside the mainstream of Japanese society. The
more I read of Mr. Clark's writings, the more I realize that his anger
comes more from a personal dislike of the "chief do-gooder" and that he
is using -- or abusing -- his position as a columnist to carry out a
vindictive personal feud. Now that the plaintiffs have won -- twice --
Mr. Clark has racheted up his distortions and misrepresentations in a
desperate attempt to discredit the plaintiffs, while only serving to
further discredit his own reputation as well as the reputation of the
newspaper that carries his column. Mr. Clark has become so married to
his own preconceived notions that he interprets any criticism as a
personal attack and automatically assigns ulterior motives -- such as
this absurd notion that those that seek to end racial discrimination in
Japan are racists themselves -- and then purposefully distorts
information in an attempt to discredit his critics.

Below is a 1999 article and response which only further exemplies Mr.
Clark's determine to distort the truth to support his own positions.

Steve Silver

///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
GREGORY CLARK on
"JAPAN'S PARTICULAR RACISM"
Japan Times, Op-Ed, December 25, 1999, page 18
Reprinted in slightly modified form (the Japanese words translated) in
the Taipei Times, Taiwan, January 22, 2000

There is something very one-sided about the way so many outsiders want
to see Japan as a den of racist iniquity. The case of a small Hamamatsu
jeweler fined for refusing entry to foreigners was played up in
responsible Western media. In the internet chat rooms for resident
"gaijin", the joy was unconfined.

Yet almost every foreigner here must at some time or other have felt
the extraordinary courtesy and honesty the Japanese can show to
outsiders. Is that supposed to be part of some racist plot?

Few other nations go to the same trouble to provide materials and
services in English for a foreign minority not very interested in
learning the local language. Where else in the world would mediocre
foreign TV personalities and commentators receive such attention,
simply because they are seen as different and "kakko-ii" (superficially
attractive).

In areas where many Western nations still discriminate against
foreigners--licences, company registrations or land purchases for
example--Japan can often be remarkably open and fair. Foreigners are
even invited to join government policymaking bodies ("shingikai").

But no doubt the critics will find a way around it all. If Konishiki is
not promoted to yokozuna, that proves more anti-gaijin racism. But when
Akebono is made yokozuna and Konishiki is promoted to TV stardom, we
get deep silence.

If Japan for fairly valid reasons fingerprints foreigners, that too is
racism. When US fingerprinting of aliens is pointed out, we get more
silence.

Nor is there much interest in the reasons why a Hamamatsu jeweler might
want to keep out foreigners--when even the Hamamatsu police are
concerned over the problem of petty pilfering by local Brazilian
workers. The critics are now focusing on an Otaru bathhouse keeper who
sought to keep out visiting Russian seamen. Many of these people are
delightful. Even so, the fact remains that people who have just arrived
from Sakhalin on unsanitary, rust-bucket boats are bound to cause
problems ("meiwaku") in Japanese bathhouses. In Japan's person-oriented
value system, causing meiwaku is a major sin.

Landlords who bar foreigners because the fret over the meiwaku that
untidy tenants might create are also hit by gaijin critics. But we hear
little about the landlords who prefer foreigners over Japanese tenants
because they believe the former are more likely to obey contracts.

One of the reasons why Japan works so well as a society, and is
therefore attractive to foreigners seeking a comfortably-ordered life,
is precisely because of the particularistic, anti-meiwaku fussiness
with which shopkeepers, bathhouse owners, landlords, etc. go about
their business. To ignore these and the many other details that can
make life for gaijin here so easy, while focusing relentlessly on the
occasional downside, is devious. It is also immature.

Needless to say, the critics also have nothing to say about the good
citizens in Hamamatsu and elsewhere who go out of their way to organize
friendship societies in a fairly vain effort to help poorer foreign
workers (Latin-Americans especially) and students integrate into Japan.

But the decibels rise if some hypersensitive foreigner feels Japanese
avoid sitting next to him on trains, though the chances are that said
Japanese are simply afraid that said critic will cause them large
meiwaku by asking directions in loud and incomprehensible English.

True, there are times when antiforeign sentiment in Japan can turn
ugly. But that is usually just the flip side of the instinctive
sensitivities that lead so many other Japanese to be unduly pro-gaijin.

Even at its militaristic worst, the Japanese approach to foreigners was
ambiguous. Japanese nationalists would vent cruel hatred on other
Asians seen as unfriendly. But they would then turn round and embrace
those whom they thought were pro-Japan.

They never developed across-the-board racial hatreds seen in our
Western societies--not because of any superior virtue, but simply
because they lacked our Western ability to turn particular feelings
into universal rationales binding for all times and places.

Even at the height of the Japan-German alliance, Japan, unlike Vichy
France and other allegedly civilized nations, never saw any need to
cooperate with Nazi anti-Jewish hatreds.

Some blacks in Japan complain about discrimination. But many more say
they find Japan more open and friendly than some Western societies,
where black people are still stereotyped as undesirable, without regard
for individual personalities.

Today Western progressives try to fight these across-the-board
prejudices by religiously trying to deny any hint of differences
between races. Even legitimate mention of such differences, for example
that black people make superior athletes, is banned for fear of
reviving the rationales that fueled past racism.

But for the Japanese, it is quite natural to note that there are
differences between the races--that some foreign people are kakko-ii or
likely to observe contracts, while others are more likely to be untidy,
pilfer, leave mud on the floor, etc. These attitudes may trample on the
principled sensitivities of progressives, but that's their problem, not
Japan's.

Japan's uglier discriminations have usually been closer to
home--towards the formerly outcast people ("burakumin") and other
domestic minorities. Since the discrimination is so instinctive, with
no attempt at rationale (another aspect of Japanese values), they are
hard to deal with, and progressive Japanese often try to avoid even
discussing them for fear of reviving the ugly instincts.

Gaijin critics see that reticence as another ugly, racist, Japanese
coverup.

To demand that Japanese observe our value system, while pouring scorn
on theirs, is the worst kind of racism.

Gregory Clark is president of Tama University

ARTICLE ENDS

ISSHO KIKAKU BENCI PROJECT LETTER TO TAIPEI TIMES IN RESPONSE

Discrimination is racist
Letter to the Editor
Published February 3, 2000

As a longtime "resident foreigner" of Japan and activist in
discrimination cases in my adopted country, I would like to comment on
Gregory Clark's recent commentary ("Is Japan racist towards foreigners?
No, says a Westerner," Jan. 22, p. 9). I would like to focus on the
facts of the two referenced discrimination cases.

First, Clark's passing depiction of the Hamamatsu case leaves out
important information. The Japanese jeweler forcefully evicted the
plaintiff only because she was a window-shopping Brazilian.

In 1999, Japan's courts ruled, via the UN Convention on Racial
Discrimination (adopted by Japan in 1996), that exclusion based solely
on nationality was illegal, necessitating US$15,000 compensation.

If foreign critics in Japan are unduly bashing the shopkeeper, they are
in good domestic and international company.

Second, the Hokkaido bathhouse case, where according to Clark a manager
sought to keep out visiting Russian seamen, is another
misrepresentation.

Not one but three bathhouses in the Hokkaido area have had exclusionary
policies for over six years. And not only for Russians.

Their front-door signs proclaim "Japanese only," meaning all
foreigners, technically including Japan-born Chinese and Koreans, are
prohibited from using the facilities.

Why should the actions of the few be applied to everyone of a different
nationality? After our organization brought this up in the media and
with nationwide authorities, one bathhouse repealed its shut-door
policy.

The remaining two, despite personal visits and entreaties to the
management, still bar me (a permanent resident of Japan, with land and
a Japanese wife and children) and my Caucasian friends from bathing
with my own children. The fact is these policies are abusable.

On one of our visits, managers permitted entry to a Chinese friend, who
looks Japanese, until she revealed her nationality and was evicted.

I expect nothing different when my ...

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 More options Mar 3 2005, 8:41 pm
From: "Gregory Clark" <g...@ringo.net>
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 10:41:39 +0900
Local: Thurs, Mar 3 2005 8:41 pm
Subject: Re: Additional errors in Mr. Clark's Feb. 17 column
GregoryClarknet@googlegroups.com on Friday, March 4, 2005 at 10:17 AM

+0900 wrote:

Sorry, Steve,  I have never met 'chief do-gooder.'  But when I first read
his posts about  wanting to take action against  bathhouse owner who had
suffered 800,000 yen's worth of damage I suspected there was something
wrong. Subsequent posts revelling in further action plans added to the
suspicions, plus the bit about Miwa lock 'racism.' Then when I saw that
talk to the JET's it was obvious there was something unusual about the man
(I assume it is a man; the name gives no indication. But I can't imagine a
woman being so aggressive and grandstanding. But there I go again, making
unwarranted sex distinctions this time.  When will I ever learn.)

Thanks for posting my earlier article. It makes quite a good read.  

GC

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 More options Mar 9 2005, 10:07 am
From: "SS" <sgsil...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 07:07:04 -0800
Local: Wed, Mar 9 2005 10:07 am
Subject: Re: Additional errors in Mr. Clark's Feb. 17 column
Mr. Karthaus' letter in edited form was published today in the Japan
Times along with Mr. Clark's response, which follows:

BEGIN
My remarks were not directed at Olaf Karthaus. They were directed at
another of the plaintiffs who on an Internet site some years ago had
said he would take legal action against the owner of a
foreigner-refusing Otaru bathhouse, despite the fact that he knew it
had suffered severe damage at the hands of drunken Russian seamen.

A bathhouse owner who then took what many would see as legitimate
measures to prevent a repeat of such damage was indeed subsequently
dragged through the courts and heavily fined. It is my understanding
that there was also legal action by Karthaus and others against Otaru
city on the bathhouse issue despite admitted damage to bathhouses in
the city.
END


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 More options Mar 9 2005, 6:54 pm
From: "MDP" <mon...@gol.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 15:54:24 -0800
Local: Wed, Mar 9 2005 6:54 pm
Subject: Re: Additional errors in Mr. Clark's Feb. 17 column

How do you feel about this, SS?

I note the misleading implication that the bathhouse had "suffered
severe damage," this repeated mantra-like despite the fact that it has
been pointed out to Mr Clark on numerous occasions that the bathhouse
installed the signs from the day they opened.

(And, Mr Clark, I am still awaiting your reply to the simple and
germane question asked of you perhaps a half-dozen times over on the
'How Mr Clark Argues' thread. I will repeat it again:

Mr Arudou visited the onsen in question with his two daughters,
one was refused for looking "Western," the other accepted for looking
"Japanese." Do you agree that this was a racist action -- an
(unqualified) YES or NO will do, you can hold the sarcasm, the abuse,
the obfuscation, the straw man and the argumentum ad hominem, if you
please.

You continuing evasiveness suggests the premise of that thread is
correct -- namely, that you avoid answering direct questions.)


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 More options Mar 9 2005, 8:37 pm
From: "Gregory Clark" <g...@ringo.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:37:27 +0900
Local: Wed, Mar 9 2005 8:37 pm
Subject: Re: Additional errors in Mr. Clark's Feb. 17 column
GregoryClarknet@googlegroups.com on Thursday, March 10, 2005 at 8:54 AM

+0900 wrote:

I think a book reviewer answered this question very well when she said
that there is something wrong with the mentality of a person who subjects
his children to this kind of trauma simply so that he can make his
convoluted points against some unfortunate bathhouse owner.

I would go further and say there is also something wrong with the
mentality of people who take this one isolated incident and try to use it
grandstand themselves as 'anti-racist' heroes - particularly when the lead
actor in this farce has in the past proudly displayed his contempt of the
Japanese people and his willingness to tell untruths and spin-doctor in a
Machiavellian way (his words, not mine) in order to make the Japanese
people show him the respect he thinks he deserves.  .  

Isn't there some UN convention prohibiting these kinds of racist
attitudes?

Come to think of it there could also be a UN convention against subjecting
young children to cruel and unusual sufferings (didn't they have the Year
of the Child recently?)

  Must check it out. Then I will file a suit, write a book about it and
turn myself into a hero also.  Only this time for a better cause.

Does that answer your question.

Gregory Clark
Head, Research Japan Office
S603 Ark Hills Executive Tower
1-14-5 Akasaka
Minato-ku, Tokyo
107-0052
Tel: 03-3586-4147
Fax: 03-3586-4148
www.gregoryclark.net
www.gregoryclark.net/nakadaki

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 More options Mar 9 2005, 8:37 pm
From: "DS" <d_Sweet...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 17:37:47 -0800
Local: Wed, Mar 9 2005 8:37 pm
Subject: Re: Additional errors in Mr. Clark's Feb. 17 column
Another implication made was that the nasty gaijin in question was
positively eager to get a legal argument going. Nothing could be
further from the truth.  A lawsuit was only initiated AFTER all other
forms of meeting and compromise were tried and had failed.  The time
lag from first refusal to filing a lawsuit can be measured in years, I
believe. The first incident took place in July of 1999, and the lawsuit
was not launched until February of 2001.

Also, defendant Yunohana is far from the small time 'mom and pop'
operation that it is made out to be.  In fact, they are probably the
largest in town. Check out their website at www.yunohana.org.  They
have parking for 180 cars, plus their own free shuttle bus service.  It
doesnt seem like business is suffering very much at all.  So, the idea
that this mean gaijin is picking on a helpless little family run
country business, staffed by less-than-culturally sensitive people, is
ridiculous.

As for "the question", it was avoided before, then answered
sarcastically, then avoided again.  Apparently, Mr. Clark would prefer
his children to suffer along and go with the flow.  He sees the only
alternative is being too combative, and hunting down all those who have
insulted him or treated his children poorly in the past.  As usual, he
presents only two extreme viewpoints as options.

Plus, as there are so many other more pressing matters to discuss, we
are all wasting our time discussing such trivial matters.  Since we all
hate Japan so much, we may as well pack up our bags and families and go
home (sarcasm intended).


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 More options Mar 9 2005, 9:09 pm
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Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:09:41 -0800
Local: Wed, Mar 9 2005 9:09 pm
Subject: Re: Additional errors in Mr. Clark's Feb. 17 column

> How do you feel about this, SS?

As Mr. Hadfield said earlier, everyone makes mistakes. That's natural.
What is special about Mr. Clark is that is obsession over the Otaru
lawsuit, particularly with one of the plaintiffs, has compelled him to
write numerous articles about it over the years, making the same
arguments and using the same distorted, inaccurate information. What is
ironic is that Mr. Clark has chastized the "bathhouse moralists" for
making a mountain out of a molehill, and for diverting attention from
much more pressing problems that, presumably, Mr. Clark is concentrated
on -- yet Mr. Clark continues to write the same recycled column again,
even after the Otaru case is over. If Mr. Clark truly believed that
there are more productive uses of his time than quibbling over entrance
to a bathhouse in Hokkaido, then why does he continue to bring it up
even after the issue has been settled in the courts? And why does he
continue to use distorted and incorrect information, even when it has
been brought to his attention -- by one of his friends and supporters
nonetheless -- that the information is inaccurate? Mr. Clark makes a
half-hearted acknowledgment that his statement about the USA Today
article was incorrect, but only after making another accusation against
Mr. Hadfield about an alleged conversation that Mr. Hadfield has
already denied, and even Mr. Clark has acknowledged in this forum that
he can't be sure himself that the conversation really did exist. In
addition, Mr. Clark still has not made this correction on his website.

His response to Mr. Karthaus' rebuttal is ironic given that Mr. Clark
is so fond of accusing others of "wriggling" on issues, as it is a fine
example of such "wriggling". Not only does he not acknowledge his
errors with regard to the Otaru case (errors which have brought to his
attention before to no avail), but in a desperate attempt to avoid
taking responsibility for his mistakes, he claims that he really wasn't
talking about the most recent case, but something that happened years
ago which he claims was mentioned on an Internet forum by Arudou Debito
(which, of course, he refuses to name directly). However, it is very
clear from the context of the paragraph in question that he was
referring to the recent Otaru case:

"Now we have the problems in Otaru, a Hokkaido port regularly visited
by small rust-bucket  Russian ships. A bathhouse that had suffered
severe property destruction at the hands  of drunken Russian seamen had
felt it had no alternative but to put up a "No Foreigner" sign. It too
was hit with a suit claiming it had violated the U.N.  convention."

Notice he used the phrase, "Now we have the problems in Otaru," clearly
referring to the present case. He referrs to a bathhouse that had
suffered damage, yet the bathhouse that was sued by the three
plaintiffs did not suffer any damage. Mr. Clark admits to this error in
one of his forum posts in response to Mr. Karthaus, yet when it comes
to acknowledging this in print, all of the sudden his story changes,
that he was really talking about another case. It will be interesting
to see if his story changes once again.

People are free to disagree with each other and, of course, free to
print their opinions on such matters. What is not acceptable is this
complete lack of journalistic ethics where a writer is allowed to
continually bend and distort the truth with impunity to support his own
preconceived notions. Even a self-described friend and supporter of Mr.
Clark's has brought this to his attention. It is again ironic that Mr.
Clark has railed against "Murdoch gutter journalism" when the spotlight
is on him, yet he seems to have no moral repugnance against
inaccuracies and distortion of truth when writing about others.  It is
my hope that from this experience the Japan Times can take a good hard
look at its editorial policies to ensure that its columnists are
adhering to standards of journalistic conduct and not following the Fox
News model of truth as relative and being bent to suit a pre-existing
ideology.


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 More options Mar 9 2005, 11:36 pm
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Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 20:36:56 -0800
Local: Wed, Mar 9 2005 11:36 pm
Subject: Re: Additional errors in Mr. Clark's Feb. 17 column

> Does that answer your question.

No, you know it does not. So, I will spell it out for you, because I
can be just as stubborn in my desire to clarify as you are in your need
to muddy.

1. please look at this statement of facts of the case:

Mr Arudou visited the onsen in question with his two daughters. All
three are Japanese citizens. One of the two daughters was refused entry
to the onsen for looking "Western," the other was accepted as she was
deemed to look more "Japanese."

2. ("the question") Do you agree that this was a racist action on
behalf of
the onsen?

Yet again, old man, an (unqualified) YES or NO will do -- you can hold
the sarcasm, the abuse, the obfuscation, the straw man and the
argumentum ad hominem, if you please.


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