I wonder if it might be appropriate to start a Gmail Wish List thread. I have submitted several suggestions but don't know how my suggestions would be viewed by others. Perhaps by submitting them here, as well as by feedback message to the Gmail Team, we can get a consensus as to what changes would be most welcome. Just as a suggestion, if you think well of a change mentioned here, you might want to send a feedback message encouraging the Gmail Team to put it on the list for consideration.
One of the things I'd like to see them add is delivery and read confirmation both within and outside of Gmail. Email is sometime rather unreliable. With other email accounts you can request a delivery and/or read confirmation. As I understand it, a delivery confirmation is just a return email indicating the message made to to the destination email server and into the recipient's inbox. A read confirmation indicates someone with access to the destination account has actually looked at the message, even if only to delete it a moment later.
Another thing I'd like is to have them change is the way options are presented when a message is being viewed. Right now, when you are looking at a message, you must click on the "More options" link to have access to the "Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Add sender to contacts list | Trash this message | Show original" links. I'd like at least "Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message" available as soon as the message is displayed. One way this could be implemented would to have this list of links on the right side under the "Expand All" link. Another way would be to make the "More options" choice either persistent so once selected it would stay selected for any new viewed message throughout and between sessions. Another possibility would be to add an account options choice of either "Display All Details for Viewed Messages" as opposed to "Minimize Details for Viewed Messages".
My understanding is that Gmail allows attachments as long as the total size of the message is 10 Mbytes or less. I also understand that executable attachments are not permitted and right now that includes executable attachments in archive files. I can certainly understand limiting aggregate message size and I think it just good common sense to block executable attachments but I'm of the opinion that zip or other archives with executable content should be permitted and that the handling of messages with prohibited attachments should be changed. Right now the message is rejected and at least sometimes the sender is notified. I'd rather let the message through to the recipient with a text message indicating that "One or more attachments have been deleted from this message because they violate Gmail policy on executable attachments or because they would cause the total message size to exceed 10 Mbytes."
My final suggestion for the moment is to be able to sort the lists of root messages and the results of searches. As the number of stored messages increases, it would be increasingly helpful to have them sorted by Sender/Receiver or Date either ascending or descending. Ideally you could also sort by both sender/receiver and date so the messages would be grouped by sender/receiver but within each sender/receiver they would be in date order.
Well, thats my list for the moment. Anybody out there care to comment on these or add their own pet items to the Wish List?
Some of those are good Ed, I personaly like the way that good has the
-more options- to display the reply ...ect links. To me it keeps
things uncluttered.
The delvery confermation...That sorta of thing isn't supported by
webmail clients that I know of. I know in outlook and programs like
that, they will send along special info for the message in a
winmail.dat file...that's where the 'reciept for message' info is held
among other things.
I also like the idea of being able to sort the emails once they have
been searched for. That's a good idea. I'm surprised that hasn't
been implimented yet.
About the executable thing...That's something that they have as a
security right now...I'm sure that might impliment a scanner or
something...who knows right now. To me it's not a big deal right now.
You can just change the extention to a .txt and it works fine, just
have to change it back when the message is viewed and the exe is
saved. So far I haven't seen any problems with encoding issues do to
the extention change...
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:38:11 -0700, Ed Gowen <ego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wonder if it might be appropriate to start a Gmail Wish List thread.
> I have submitted several suggestions but don't know how my suggestions
> would be viewed by others. Perhaps by submitting them here, as well as
> by feedback message to the Gmail Team, we can get a consensus as to
> what changes would be most welcome. Just as a suggestion, if you think
> well of a change mentioned here, you might want to send a feedback
> message encouraging the Gmail Team to put it on the list for
> consideration.
> One of the things I'd like to see them add is delivery and read
> confirmation both within and outside of Gmail. Email is sometime
> rather unreliable. With other email accounts you can request a
> delivery and/or read confirmation. As I understand it, a delivery
> confirmation is just a return email indicating the message made to to
> the destination email server and into the recipient's inbox. A read
> confirmation indicates someone with access to the destination account
> has actually looked at the message, even if only to delete it a moment
> later.
> Another thing I'd like is to have them change is the way options are
> presented when a message is being viewed. Right now, when you are
> looking at a message, you must click on the "More options" link to have
> access to the "Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Add sender to
> contacts list | Trash this message | Show original" links. I'd like at
> least "Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message"
> available as soon as the message is displayed. One way this could be
> implemented would to have this list of links on the right side under
> the "Expand All" link. Another way would be to make the "More options"
> choice either persistent so once selected it would stay selected for
> any new viewed message throughout and between sessions. Another
> possibility would be to add an account options choice of either
> "Display All Details for Viewed Messages" as opposed to "Minimize
> Details for Viewed Messages".
> My understanding is that Gmail allows attachments as long as the total
> size of the message is 10 Mbytes or less. I also understand that
> executable attachments are not permitted and right now that includes
> executable attachments in archive files. I can certainly understand
> limiting aggregate message size and I think it just good common sense
> to block executable attachments but I'm of the opinion that zip or
> other archives with executable content should be permitted and that the
> handling of messages with prohibited attachments should be changed.
> Right now the message is rejected and at least sometimes the sender is
> notified. I'd rather let the message through to the recipient with a
> text message indicating that "One or more attachments have been deleted
> from this message because they violate Gmail policy on executable
> attachments or because they would cause the total message size to
> exceed 10 Mbytes."
> My final suggestion for the moment is to be able to sort the lists of
> root messages and the results of searches. As the number of stored
> messages increases, it would be increasingly helpful to have them
> sorted by Sender/Receiver or Date either ascending or descending.
> Ideally you could also sort by both sender/receiver and date so the
> messages would be grouped by sender/receiver but within each
> sender/receiver they would be in date order.
> Well, thats my list for the moment. Anybody out there care to comment
> on these or add their own pet items to the Wish List?
Ah, T. M. Tracey - you joined Gmail-Users, cool. I've read some of your posts on GmailForums. I suppose sorting e-mails when searched for isn't a bad idea. Ed's ideas seem good as well. Just one suggestion for Gmail: I think there should be a disabling option for Gmail not automatically adding people to your contacts list. When you send an e-mail to someone, I find Gmail adds the recipient's name to your contact list - with no confirmation at all. -- Lee (lee.gi...@gmail.com)
T. M. Tracy wrote: > Some of those are good Ed, I personaly like the way that good has the > -more options- to display the reply ...ect links. To me it keeps > things uncluttered.
> The delvery confermation...That sorta of thing isn't supported by > webmail clients that I know of. I know in outlook and programs like > that, they will send along special info for the message in a > winmail.dat file...that's where the 'reciept for message' info is held > among other things.
> I also like the idea of being able to sort the emails once they have > been searched for. That's a good idea. I'm surprised that hasn't > been implimented yet.
> About the executable thing...That's something that they have as a > security right now...I'm sure that might impliment a scanner or > something...who knows right now. To me it's not a big deal right now. > You can just change the extention to a .txt and it works fine, just > have to change it back when the message is viewed and the exe is > saved. So far I haven't seen any problems with encoding issues do to > the extention change...
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:38:11 -0700, Ed Gowen <ego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I wonder if it might be appropriate to start a Gmail Wish List thread. > > I have submitted several suggestions but don't know how my suggestions > > would be viewed by others. Perhaps by submitting them here, as well as > > by feedback message to the Gmail Team, we can get a consensus as to > > what changes would be most welcome. Just as a suggestion, if you think > > well of a change mentioned here, you might want to send a feedback > > message encouraging the Gmail Team to put it on the list for > > consideration.
> > One of the things I'd like to see them add is delivery and read > > confirmation both within and outside of Gmail. Email is sometime > > rather unreliable. With other email accounts you can request a > > delivery and/or read confirmation. As I understand it, a delivery > > confirmation is just a return email indicating the message made to to > > the destination email server and into the recipient's inbox. A read > > confirmation indicates someone with access to the destination account > > has actually looked at the message, even if only to delete it a moment > > later.
> > Another thing I'd like is to have them change is the way options are > > presented when a message is being viewed. Right now, when you are > > looking at a message, you must click on the "More options" link to have > > access to the "Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Add sender to > > contacts list | Trash this message | Show original" links. I'd like at > > least "Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message" > > available as soon as the message is displayed. One way this could be > > implemented would to have this list of links on the right side under > > the "Expand All" link. Another way would be to make the "More options" > > choice either persistent so once selected it would stay selected for > > any new viewed message throughout and between sessions. Another > > possibility would be to add an account options choice of either > > "Display All Details for Viewed Messages" as opposed to "Minimize > > Details for Viewed Messages".
> > My understanding is that Gmail allows attachments as long as the total > > size of the message is 10 Mbytes or less. I also understand that > > executable attachments are not permitted and right now that includes > > executable attachments in archive files. I can certainly understand > > limiting aggregate message size and I think it just good common sense > > to block executable attachments but I'm of the opinion that zip or > > other archives with executable content should be permitted and that the > > handling of messages with prohibited attachments should be changed. > > Right now the message is rejected and at least sometimes the sender is > > notified. I'd rather let the message through to the recipient with a > > text message indicating that "One or more attachments have been deleted > > from this message because they violate Gmail policy on executable > > attachments or because they would cause the total message size to > > exceed 10 Mbytes."
> > My final suggestion for the moment is to be able to sort the lists of > > root messages and the results of searches. As the number of stored > > messages increases, it would be increasingly helpful to have them > > sorted by Sender/Receiver or Date either ascending or descending. > > Ideally you could also sort by both sender/receiver and date so the > > messages would be grouped by sender/receiver but within each > > sender/receiver they would be in date order.
> > Well, thats my list for the moment. Anybody out there care to comment > > on these or add their own pet items to the Wish List?
Something that I would like to see... is the abbility to have
different signatures for different lables. When you reply to one
lable, it defaults a different signature.
Some of those are good Ed, I personaly like the way that good has the
-more options- to display the reply ...ect links. To me it keeps
things uncluttered.
The delvery confermation...That sorta of thing isn't supported by
webmail clients that I know of. I know in outlook and programs like
that, they will send along special info for the message in a
winmail.dat file...that's where the 'reciept for message' info is held
among other things.
I also like the idea of being able to sort the emails once they have
been searched for. That's a good idea. I'm surprised that hasn't
been implimented yet.
About the executable thing...That's something that they have as a
security right now...I'm sure that might impliment a scanner or
something...who knows right now. To me it's not a big deal right now.
You can just change the extention to a .txt and it works fine, just
have to change it back when the message is viewed and the exe is
saved. So far I haven't seen any problems with encoding issues do to
the extention change...
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:38:11 -0700, Ed Gowen <ego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wonder if it might be appropriate to start a Gmail Wish List thread.
> I have submitted several suggestions but don't know how my suggestions
> would be viewed by others. Perhaps by submitting them here, as well as
> by feedback message to the Gmail Team, we can get a consensus as to
> what changes would be most welcome. Just as a suggestion, if you think
> well of a change mentioned here, you might want to send a feedback
> message encouraging the Gmail Team to put it on the list for
> consideration.
> One of the things I'd like to see them add is delivery and read
> confirmation both within and outside of Gmail. Email is sometime
> rather unreliable. With other email accounts you can request a
> delivery and/or read confirmation. As I understand it, a delivery
> confirmation is just a return email indicating the message made to to
> the destination email server and into the recipient's inbox. A read
> confirmation indicates someone with access to the destination account
> has actually looked at the message, even if only to delete it a moment
> later.
> Another thing I'd like is to have them change is the way options are
> presented when a message is being viewed. Right now, when you are
> looking at a message, you must click on the "More options" link to have
> access to the "Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Add sender to
> contacts list | Trash this message | Show original" links. I'd like at
> least "Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message"
> available as soon as the message is displayed. One way this could be
> implemented would to have this list of links on the right side under
> the "Expand All" link. Another way would be to make the "More options"
> choice either persistent so once selected it would stay selected for
> any new viewed message throughout and between sessions. Another
> possibility would be to add an account options choice of either
> "Display All Details for Viewed Messages" as opposed to "Minimize
> Details for Viewed Messages".
> My understanding is that Gmail allows attachments as long as the total
> size of the message is 10 Mbytes or less. I also understand that
> executable attachments are not permitted and right now that includes
> executable attachments in archive files. I can certainly understand
> limiting aggregate message size and I think it just good common sense
> to block executable attachments but I'm of the opinion that zip or
> other archives with executable content should be permitted and that the
> handling of messages with prohibited attachments should be changed.
> Right now the message is rejected and at least sometimes the sender is
> notified. I'd rather let the message through to the recipient with a
> text message indicating that "One or more attachments have been deleted
> from this message because they violate Gmail policy on executable
> attachments or because they would cause the total message size to
> exceed 10 Mbytes."
> My final suggestion for the moment is to be able to sort the lists of
> root messages and the results of searches. As the number of stored
> messages increases, it would be increasingly helpful to have them
> sorted by Sender/Receiver or Date either ascending or descending.
> Ideally you could also sort by both sender/receiver and date so the
> messages would be grouped by sender/receiver but within each
> sender/receiver they would be in date order.
> Well, thats my list for the moment. Anybody out there care to comment
> on these or add their own pet items to the Wish List?
Something that I would like to see... is the abbility to have
different signatures for different lables. When you reply to one
lable, it defaults a different signature.
> The delvery confermation...That sorta of thing isn't supported by
> webmail clients that I know of. I know in outlook and programs like
> that, they will send along special info for the message in a
> winmail.dat file...that's where the 'reciept for message' info is held
> among other things.
Depends: what you describe OE and whatnot having is a "read
confirmation" -- it gets triggered (iirc) when you read the mail. The
mailer-daemon that handles dropping the message into your account in
the first place actually handles the delivery confirmation, as that is
when it is actually delivered. And that shouldn't matter if it is a
webmail client or not, just if the local postmaster has the feature.
I want to be able to toggle off the 'feature' where it adds contacts
willy-nilly, but I'd also like it to save those and be able to put you
into a contact-picker (with sort, even) that can browse through the
pool of possible contacts that it's built up from your mail store.
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:11:59 -0700, lee.gi...@gmail.com
> Ah, T. M. Tracey - you joined Gmail-Users, cool.
> I've read some of your posts on GmailForums.
> I suppose sorting e-mails when searched for isn't a bad idea.
> Ed's ideas seem good as well.
> Just one suggestion for Gmail: I think there should be a disabling
> option for Gmail not automatically adding people to your contacts
> list. When you send an e-mail to someone, I find Gmail adds the
> recipient's name to your contact list - with no confirmation at all.
> --
> Lee
> (lee.gi...@gmail.com)
> T. M. Tracy wrote:
> > Some of those are good Ed, I personaly like the way that good has the
> > -more options- to display the reply ...ect links. To me it keeps
> > things uncluttered.
> > The delvery confermation...That sorta of thing isn't supported by
> > webmail clients that I know of. I know in outlook and programs like
> > that, they will send along special info for the message in a
> > winmail.dat file...that's where the 'reciept for message' info is
> held
> > among other things.
> > I also like the idea of being able to sort the emails once they have
> > been searched for. That's a good idea. I'm surprised that hasn't
> > been implimented yet.
> > About the executable thing...That's something that they have as a
> > security right now...I'm sure that might impliment a scanner or
> > something...who knows right now. To me it's not a big deal right
> now.
> > You can just change the extention to a .txt and it works fine, just
> > have to change it back when the message is viewed and the exe is
> > saved. So far I haven't seen any problems with encoding issues do to
> > the extention change...
> > On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:38:11 -0700, Ed Gowen <ego...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > I wonder if it might be appropriate to start a Gmail Wish List
> thread.
> > > I have submitted several suggestions but don't know how my
> suggestions
> > > would be viewed by others. Perhaps by submitting them here, as
> well as
> > > by feedback message to the Gmail Team, we can get a consensus as to
> > > what changes would be most welcome. Just as a suggestion, if you
> think
> > > well of a change mentioned here, you might want to send a feedback
> > > message encouraging the Gmail Team to put it on the list for
> > > consideration.
> > > One of the things I'd like to see them add is delivery and read
> > > confirmation both within and outside of Gmail. Email is sometime
> > > rather unreliable. With other email accounts you can request a
> > > delivery and/or read confirmation. As I understand it, a delivery
> > > confirmation is just a return email indicating the message made to
> to
> > > the destination email server and into the recipient's inbox. A
> read
> > > confirmation indicates someone with access to the destination
> account
> > > has actually looked at the message, even if only to delete it a
> moment
> > > later.
> > > Another thing I'd like is to have them change is the way options
> are
> > > presented when a message is being viewed. Right now, when you are
> > > looking at a message, you must click on the "More options" link to
> have
> > > access to the "Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Add sender
> to
> > > contacts list | Trash this message | Show original" links. I'd
> like at
> > > least "Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message"
> > > available as soon as the message is displayed. One way this could
> be
> > > implemented would to have this list of links on the right side
> under
> > > the "Expand All" link. Another way would be to make the "More
> options"
> > > choice either persistent so once selected it would stay selected
> for
> > > any new viewed message throughout and between sessions. Another
> > > possibility would be to add an account options choice of either
> > > "Display All Details for Viewed Messages" as opposed to "Minimize
> > > Details for Viewed Messages".
> > > My understanding is that Gmail allows attachments as long as the
> total
> > > size of the message is 10 Mbytes or less. I also understand that
> > > executable attachments are not permitted and right now that
> includes
> > > executable attachments in archive files. I can certainly
> understand
> > > limiting aggregate message size and I think it just good common
> sense
> > > to block executable attachments but I'm of the opinion that zip or
> > > other archives with executable content should be permitted and that
> the
> > > handling of messages with prohibited attachments should be changed.
> > > Right now the message is rejected and at least sometimes the sender
> is
> > > notified. I'd rather let the message through to the recipient with
> a
> > > text message indicating that "One or more attachments have been
> deleted
> > > from this message because they violate Gmail policy on executable
> > > attachments or because they would cause the total message size to
> > > exceed 10 Mbytes."
> > > My final suggestion for the moment is to be able to sort the lists
> of
> > > root messages and the results of searches. As the number of stored
> > > messages increases, it would be increasingly helpful to have them
> > > sorted by Sender/Receiver or Date either ascending or descending.
> > > Ideally you could also sort by both sender/receiver and date so the
> > > messages would be grouped by sender/receiver but within each
> > > sender/receiver they would be in date order.
> > > Well, thats my list for the moment. Anybody out there care to
> comment
> > > on these or add their own pet items to the Wish List?
I want to be able to toggle off the 'feature' where it adds contacts
willy-nilly, but I'd also like it to save those and be able to put you
into a contact-picker (with sort, even) that can browse through the
pool of possible contacts that it's built up from your mail store.
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:11:59 -0700, lee.gi...@gmail.com
> Ah, T. M. Tracey - you joined Gmail-Users, cool.
> I've read some of your posts on GmailForums.
> I suppose sorting e-mails when searched for isn't a bad idea.
> Ed's ideas seem good as well.
> Just one suggestion for Gmail: I think there should be a disabling
> option for Gmail not automatically adding people to your contacts
> list. When you send an e-mail to someone, I find Gmail adds the
> recipient's name to your contact list - with no confirmation at all.
> --
> Lee
> (lee.gi...@gmail.com)
> T. M. Tracy wrote:
> > Some of those are good Ed, I personaly like the way that good has the
> > -more options- to display the reply ...ect links. To me it keeps
> > things uncluttered.
> > The delvery confermation...That sorta of thing isn't supported by
> > webmail clients that I know of. I know in outlook and programs like
> > that, they will send along special info for the message in a
> > winmail.dat file...that's where the 'reciept for message' info is
> held
> > among other things.
> > I also like the idea of being able to sort the emails once they have
> > been searched for. That's a good idea. I'm surprised that hasn't
> > been implimented yet.
> > About the executable thing...That's something that they have as a
> > security right now...I'm sure that might impliment a scanner or
> > something...who knows right now. To me it's not a big deal right
> now.
> > You can just change the extention to a .txt and it works fine, just
> > have to change it back when the message is viewed and the exe is
> > saved. So far I haven't seen any problems with encoding issues do to
> > the extention change...
> > On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:38:11 -0700, Ed Gowen <ego...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > I wonder if it might be appropriate to start a Gmail Wish List
> thread.
> > > I have submitted several suggestions but don't know how my
> suggestions
> > > would be viewed by others. Perhaps by submitting them here, as
> well as
> > > by feedback message to the Gmail Team, we can get a consensus as to
> > > what changes would be most welcome. Just as a suggestion, if you
> think
> > > well of a change mentioned here, you might want to send a feedback
> > > message encouraging the Gmail Team to put it on the list for
> > > consideration.
> > > One of the things I'd like to see them add is delivery and read
> > > confirmation both within and outside of Gmail. Email is sometime
> > > rather unreliable. With other email accounts you can request a
> > > delivery and/or read confirmation. As I understand it, a delivery
> > > confirmation is just a return email indicating the message made to
> to
> > > the destination email server and into the recipient's inbox. A
> read
> > > confirmation indicates someone with access to the destination
> account
> > > has actually looked at the message, even if only to delete it a
> moment
> > > later.
> > > Another thing I'd like is to have them change is the way options
> are
> > > presented when a message is being viewed. Right now, when you are
> > > looking at a message, you must click on the "More options" link to
> have
> > > access to the "Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Add sender
> to
> > > contacts list | Trash this message | Show original" links. I'd
> like at
> > > least "Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message"
> > > available as soon as the message is displayed. One way this could
> be
> > > implemented would to have this list of links on the right side
> under
> > > the "Expand All" link. Another way would be to make the "More
> options"
> > > choice either persistent so once selected it would stay selected
> for
> > > any new viewed message throughout and between sessions. Another
> > > possibility would be to add an account options choice of either
> > > "Display All Details for Viewed Messages" as opposed to "Minimize
> > > Details for Viewed Messages".
