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Randy Quimpo  
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 More options May 6, 11:54 pm
From: "Randy Quimpo" <randy.qui...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 11:54:15 +0800
Local: Tues, May 6 2008 11:54 pm
Subject: One case where Toast does NOT work (was [DV-L] Re: Toast 7)
Tried to Toast a broadcast of my daughter's volleyball game (taped it
off the air). Game lasted 1.5 hours, and the QT file was so large I
couldn't do my "just drop it in Toast and burn it" trick. This used to
be the way I did it with the shorter corporate films and demos I used
to do.

So I created a smaller reference video in FCP, dropped this into
Toast, and after about eight hours of encoding I got a bad burn. AND
got left with 2GB in my drive. Not acceptable at all.

Went to DVDSP instead, and I am now doing the "make a disk image and
burn" technique. More work, but it seems to encode much, much faster
and I know whats going on.

So Kieth, I will have to retract my earlier post to you that I do
everything I need with Toast - here I am doing DVDSP by necessity.
Obviously you have to fit the tool to the job, and all tools have
ups/downs.

rgds/ RandyQ


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Perry Mitchell  
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 More options May 7, 5:44 am
From: "Perry Mitchell" <perry.mitch...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 10:44:08 +0100
Local: Wed, May 7 2008 5:44 am
Subject: RE: [DV-L] One case where Toast does NOT work (was [DV-L] Re: Toast 7)
Not at all directly relevant - but I wanted to mention it one day! Here in
UK we have Digital TV via normal terrestrial broadcasting - it is called
'Freeview'. It is sneaked into the gaps between analog channels, and is on
low power to avoid interference. (This will all change when we go 100%
digital in 2012)
The digital broadcasts are via MPEG2 transport streams (at least for SD they
are) and there are several devices able to capture these as desired onto a
computer hard drive. It then needs to be converted (essentially
demultiplexed) into a normal MPEG2 program which can then be used directly
as a source for any DVD authoring app. I use a freeware Java app called
'ProjectX' which came out of some geeky university research project, and
magically removes all the hundreds of sync errors that creep into my very
marginal signal quality. (Like about 40% of the UK population, I cannot
officially receive Freeview!)
Anyways, the bottom line is that it works very well once you've got your
head around the curious (but very effective) interface. The final DVD
quality is essentially the same as that received, and (dependent on the
broadcaster) gives about 3-4 hours on a single layer DVD. This is a lot more
efficient than using DVD recorders with Freeview tuners, that all
(curiously) decode/recode the MPEG2 streams.
It is a very effective way of allowing our relatives in Australia and USA to
access our favorite TV shows. I use my wife's laptop to process and burn
whilst she is at work.
FWIW
Perry Mitchell


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Randy Quimpo  
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 More options May 8, 6:45 am
From: "Randy Quimpo" <randy.qui...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 18:45:40 +0800
Local: Thurs, May 8 2008 6:45 am
Subject: Re: [DV-L] Re: One case where Toast does NOT work (was [DV-L] Re: Toast 7)
BTW, I couldn't get the DVD made anyway - DVDSP couldn't produce a
file that will fit inside a regular DVD, hence the formatting keeps
failing.

Will probably do it in Compressor, but really folks this is starting
to get to me.

rgds/ RandyQ

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Randy Quimpo
Corporate Film maker

http://www.q2digitalstudio.com


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Perry Mitchell  
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 More options May 8, 7:08 am
From: "Perry Mitchell" <perry.mitch...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 12:08:00 +0100
Subject: RE: [DV-L] Re: One case where Toast does NOT work (was [DV-L] Re: Toast 7)
One of the prime reasons I got a production PC (previously I just used
Windows for the office stuff) was to get access to all the multitude of
(mostly free) tools used in DVD production. A lot of them may come from the
hacking community - but hey they work!
Make your (oversized) DVD to a file, and then beg/borrow a PC and run the
file through 'ShrinkDVD'. The default settings will simply re-encode
everything to exactly fit a DVD data size.
Perry Mitchell


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Randy Quimpo  
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 More options May 8, 8:39 am
From: "Randy Quimpo" <randy.qui...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 20:39:08 +0800
Local: Thurs, May 8 2008 8:39 am
Subject: Re: [DV-L] Re: One case where Toast does NOT work (was [DV-L] Re: Toast 7)
Or reboot my Mac on windows. Might work - will give it a try. I am
quite desperate for a fix that works, got a whole season of volleyball
games coming up and I am behind as it is!

rgds/ RandyQ

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http://www.q2digitalstudio.com


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kyakoub...@adelphia.net  
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 More options May 8, 5:34 pm
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Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 14:34:37 -0700
Local: Thurs, May 8 2008 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: [DV-L] Re: One case where Toast does NOT work (was [DV-L] Re: Toast 7)
---- Randy Quimpo <randy.qui...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Or reboot my Mac on windows. Might work - will give it a try. I am
> quite desperate for a fix that works, got a whole season of volleyball
> games coming up and I am behind as it is!

> rgds/ RandyQ

Goodness Randy. I wish I could offer something of help to YOU. Dopey thoughts here: have you thought of either a) dividing the job up over multiple discs or b) handing the job off to a service bureau of some kind?

I dunno. Just off the top of my head.

Keith


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