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Hank Murrow  
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 More options Jun 17, 1:03 pm
From: Hank Murrow <hmur...@efn.org>
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:03:05 -0700
Local: Tues, Jun 17 2008 1:03 pm
Subject: Re: Please tell me more about Petunse in the USA

On Jun 17, 2008, at 7:07 AM, Antoinette Badenhorst wrote:

> Thanks for the information Hank. Maybe there is hopes that  
> somewhere in future America will be able to rely on these deposits  
> for their porcelain. Do you get similar translucency as with the  
> southern ice pots you showed me before?

Dear Antoinette;

My Calf Ridge porcelainstone when hydrothermally altered also was  
contaminated by iron and titania, rendering tthe body not  
translucent..... if drop dead gorgeous. The Fairbanks AK  
porcelainstone prospected and mined by David Stannard is indeed  
translucent at cone 8 reduction. I will post a pic of this Alaskan  
body fired in oxidation and reduction. The glaze is the body with 15%  
limestone added. Rings like a bell for a long time when struck, and  
you can count your fingers through the body when held to the light. I  
will post the photo at the flickr site  http://www.flickr.com/photos/
claycraft/   so you can see.


Cheers, Hank

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Discussion subject changed to "*ClayCraft* Re: Please tell me more about Petunse in the USA" by Gail Fullerton
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From: "Gail Fullerton" <tadandg...@acsalaska.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:51:51 -0800
Local: Tues, Jun 17 2008 1:51 pm
Subject: Re: *ClayCraft* Re: Please tell me more about Petunse in the USA

Hank,
Where or where did David find his AK porcelain?
Gail in Fairbanks
btw I have the gas kiln running and the cone 6 reduction is looking very very good


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Hank Murrow  
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 More options Jun 17, 1:55 pm
From: Hank Murrow <hmur...@efn.org>
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:55:11 -0700
Local: Tues, Jun 17 2008 1:55 pm
Subject: Re: *ClayCraft* Re: Please tell me more about Petunse in the USA

On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Gail Fullerton wrote:

> Hank,
> Where or where did David find his AK porcelain?
> Gail in Fairbanks
> btw I have the gas kiln running and the cone 6 reduction is looking  
> very very good

Dear gail;

He called it "Silver Fox" and it was on a U of Alaska site. He has  
found several other sites which he now uses.

Cheers, Hank


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Discussion subject changed to "Please tell me more about Petunse in the USA" by hambone
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From: hambone <kansaspot...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:27:07 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 23 2008 6:27 pm
Subject: Re: Please tell me more about Petunse in the USA
It's worth looking at David Stannard's writing on  the topic as well
as Tichane's and Nigel Wood's. Wood reports the UPA for the earliest
Five Dynasties Jingdezhen petuntse which was used as 100% of the clay
body. Stannard's Silver Fox actually has fewer impurities - judging by
the UPA numbers.
H A M B O N E

On Jun 17, 1:03 pm, Hank Murrow <hmur...@efn.org> wrote:


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From: hambone <kansaspot...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:06:09 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jul 1 2008 7:06 pm
Subject: Re: Please tell me more about Petunse in the USA
p.s. extrusive (volcanic) primary clays are covered slightly in Cardew
also.

What is also interesting here is that all kaolins in the USA are
secondary clays hence
Hanks and Stannard's use of this material represents the very unusual
use of primary local clay material (as a clay body) in the USA.
H A M B O N E

On Jun 23, 6:27 pm, hambone <kansaspot...@gmail.com> wrote:


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Discussion subject changed to "*ClayCraft* Re: Please tell me more about Petunse in the USA" by Hank Murrow
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From: Hank Murrow <hmur...@efn.org>
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:12:48 -0700
Local: Tues, Jul 1 2008 9:12 pm
Subject: Re: *ClayCraft* Re: Please tell me more about Petunse in the USA

On Jul 1, 2008, at 4:06 PM, hambone wrote:

> p.s. extrusive (volcanic) primary clays are covered slightly in Cardew
> also.

> What is also interesting here is that all kaolins in the USA are
> secondary clays hence
> Hanks and Stannard's use of this material represents the very unusual
> use of primary local clay material (as a clay body) in the USA.

Dear Eric;

When I realised what Stannard was on to, I soon found that there are  
deposits of rhyolite all over the West. In desert areas, there has  
been little alteration due to the dry climate which prevails there.  
In CA, OR, WA, and AK, there has been much hydrothermal alteration
(because of volcanic geysering), leading to the development of  
sericite and micaceous minerals. These are plastic and have the right  
amount of alkali for a mature body at cone 10 (around 3_4%). In the  
absence of hydrothermal or heavy weathering, there would be too much  
alkalii content for cone 10 fires..... at least as the main body  
ingredient.

The problem as I see it is that potters brought up in the lore of  
Western porcelain have been inclined to search for kaolins and  
feldspars....... giving extrusive rocks little to no attention. I am  
confident that we will find and develop such deposits as soon as many  
potters start looking for them. the maps have been drawn..... it  
remains for potters to look for the right things.

Cheers, Hank


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