Isaac D wrote:
> Why is it that you think that I will pass this along? I'm telling you
> of a truth, I will do nothing with what you have just written. And
> many of my brothers and sisters will do nothing with it. We don't
come
> in the name of religion, or beliefs. We come in the name of Jesus
> Christ, the Son of God. And if you deny that He is, then you would
> make out the Father, who gave Mohammed what he had, and sent the Son,
> to be a liar. He tells no lies. I will not perpetuate anything like
> this.
> You cannot read a bunch of newsgroups and expect to have it all
> figured out. Where does their knowledge come from that they spread?
It
> doesn't come from anyone here. It doesn't come from the world. Just
as
> they don't sow from themselves, don't expect to spread a seed that
> comes purely from you or a group of other people and expect it to
bear
> fruit and blossom as a tree.
> Isaac D.
> On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 02:30:54 -0800, alpha
<newsgroupaddr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > PLEASE COPY AND PASTE THIS ARTICLE TO AS MANY WEBSITES, GOOGLE AND
> > YAHOO NEWSGROUPS, AND EMAIL CONTACTS AS YOU CAN. IF EVERYONE WHO
READS
> > IT POSTS IT TO JUST A COUPLE OF GROUPS/PEOPLE EACH IT WILL FOREVER
STAY
> > ON THE NET TO HIGHLIGHT THE ISSUES BELOW...PLEEEEESE DO YOUR
> > BIT!...MANY THANKS AND ENJOY THE READ.
> > The Fundamentals of Christianity and Islam
> > After reading many postings on Christian newsgroups and Muslim
> > newsgroups I have noticed there are many posts which are aimed at
> > converting people from one faith to their own faith but very little
> > effort being made to understand the differences between the
> > Monotheistic faiths of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Above all
> > there is a mass of postings made by Christians attempting to teach
> > Muslims the message of Jesus and Christianity. I myself am a Muslim
> > (Islam) and find it very disturbing that so many Christians seem to
> > have little to no understanding of just what it is that Muslims
> > believe.
> > Perhaps as a Christian you have no wish to understand either since
you
> > have found a set of teachings that you believe are the truth and
have
> > therefore dismissed all other religions as being false religions.
As a
> > Muslim my religion is Islam and the scripture that I try to live my
> > life by is the Qur'an. In the Qur'an it is written that humans
> > should question all things and that God expects and encourages this
as
> > the way to find truth. Like Christians we also believe that when
you
> > here the truth (be it gods will) you will know it and recognize it
if
> > you use reason. I am sure that as Christians you will believe the
same
> > thing since to encourage blind belief in something is simply to
> > encourage mental suicide. The aim of writing this post is not to
> > attempt to convert Christians to Islam but to point out a
difference in
> > beliefs that will hopefully bring about greater understanding and
> > harmony between the two faiths...As a Christian you can only
benefit by
> > knowing the mindset of someone of a different faith...who knows you
may
> > even end up converting someone with this information.
> > I know that I have benefited by reading bible text to understand
> > where Christian beliefs and mentality is coming from. I am about to
> > attempt to give a crash course on the central Muslim belief without
> > boring you with pages and pages of detail...I am going to try to
> > explain why I choose Islam over Christianity as my religion. Before
I
> > put my case I would like to repeat that both Christians and Muslims
> > believe that when you here truth you know it and cannot find fault
in
> > it nor deny it. As a Muslim I believe that gods people do not live
in
> > one grouping of people on the planet...ie.....come judgment day it
is
> > not going to be all those who called themselves Muslims, or
Christians,
> > or Jews that are going to ascend to heaven but it will be a very
mixed
> > composition of people that does not take into account such
superficial
> > things as religious label be it Jew Christian or Muslim, country of
> > residence, or color of skin, Everyone's fate will be decided by
their
> > actions and the words that flow from their hands and lips. I
believe
> > this is what the prophets were teaching in scripture...one such
example
> > being Jesus when he implied: not all who come with my message are
of
> > Gods people (or something to that effect). Everyone's fate will be
> > determined by Gods judgment and not human judgment since God is the
> > knower of all things both seen and unseen in the heart. To suggest
such
> > a theory as come judgment day all the Muslims/Christians/Jews
living in
> > such and such a country will be "the righteous" and all the rest
> > will face the punishment of God for their sins is a very simplistic
> > black and white view and is far away from a rational mind and the
> > teachings of any religious texts. It is also a very dangerous
fanatical
> > way of thinking. Life would be a lot easier if everyone's labels
> > matched the way they behaved and what was in their hearts but sadly
> > this is far from reality. I think the following quote sums up this
> > belief:
> > "Religion is not a club you can join. Your religion is something
you
> > will drift in and out of throughout your life dependant on your
> > behavior. Your fate salvation and guidance in this life and the
next
> > are not decided by the label you go by. be it agnostic Christian,
Jew,
> > or Muslim, but by your actions, the words that flow from your lips,
and
> > what you truly believe in your heart. This is my religion, your
> > religion, and everybody's religion......the name of this religion
and
> > teaching is XXXXX"
> > Of course this viewpoint is not unique to Islam, which is why I put
> > XXXXX instead of Islam, I'm sure many Christians reading this can
> > relate to this wisdom when they read it, and I'm sure many would
tell
> > me this is Christianity too.
> > Many Christians would be surprised at reading the Qur'an.......the
> > scripture is very much the same as the bible and tells the same
stories
> > of the profits and has the same moral messages...sometimes with
slight
> > variation in historic events but mostly the same. Muslims Claim
that
> > Mohamed was the last profit and was given the message of God so
that he
> > can correct the human Corruption of the original message of the
> > prophets before him, much the same as Christians believe Jesus was
> > given the message of God to confirm what the Jews had already
> > received.........The question begs to be asked What was this
message
> > that god wants us to understand? you can only look at the scripture
of
> > the Jews, Christians, and Muslims to decide....what were the
prophets
> > teaching? What is the common theme found in all the prophets'
> > teachings?
> > Here is the Muslim Version and the crash course in Qur'an!
> > Muslims believe that gods message was that humans should not make
> > partners with god. And that there is only one god and all praise
> > belongs to Him alone. As Christians I am sure this is not a new
concept
> > to you either and that you have read this many times in your own
> > scripture. But what exactly is meant by "do not make partners with
> > God"?. Muslims believe that by making "intercession" between a
> > human and god is the one thing that defines being a believer or
someone
> > who is astray. In other words by assigning authority/power to
anything
> > other than god is in direct contradiction of gods will and message
of
> > unity. When humans assign symbols, statues, create hierarchies in
> > society with saints and kings, and create semi gods like the golden
> > calf the Jews created when Moses went up the mountain or are
tempted by
> > other values such as Abraham was we are at the same time creating
> > division among people and causing people to see others as different
due
> > to the limitations of our senses. If you take away Christian
> > crucifixes, saints (holy men), statues of Jesus, (holy buildings
and
> > shrines), semi gods, nationalism, pictures of idol worship and all
> > forms of "Partners with God" what differences are remaining between
> > mankind???......... NONE! If these semi dietys were removed the
world
> > would have only one religion and total unification. All religions
seem
> > to be preaching the same fundamental beliefs of right over wrong,
good
> > leads to good and bad leads to bad (karma), love concors hate,
> > generosity, charity, and abandonment of the things of this world
that
> > corrupt us. There are countless expressions of the same feelings
> > mankind experiences to be found in a huge variety of separate
religious
> > groups. Does any one religion have the arrogance to claim to have
the
> > monopoly on believing in such things as peace, love, forgiveness,
> > patience, perseverance, etc?..........How many wars have been
fought
> > and how many lives have been lost because of power being assigned
to
> > the things of this life and people assuming they must be different
> > because they have different titles but are in fact feeling the same
> > universal thoughts? .....When you look around you will find that
this
> > is the root cause of all segregation and evil...People kill to
protect
> > (so called) holy buildings and shrines, they will kill to protect
their
> > fellow man and community because they have the same religious label
as
> > him with no regard for the fact someone's true religion is based on
> > his behavior actions and attitude. Even the instincts of atheists
will
> > say that this is what turns them away from religion. One such
example
> > was when the French government recently gave an order to ban all
> > religious symbols in schools because they said it was the root
cause of
> > all conflict between the different faiths.... They even went to the
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