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Arthur A. Vanderbilt  
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 More options Dec 20 2004, 1:35 pm
From: "Arthur A. Vanderbilt" <arthurvanderb...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:35:16 -0600
Local: Mon, Dec 20 2004 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: [43F Group] Re: Tinderbox
Take a look at the website [1], the wiki [2], and the user-contributed
templates [3] to get some idea of the scope of what you can do with it.
If that doesn't work, download the 30-day demo. It's pretty difficult to
explain, though I use it almost every day.

It's kind of like an operating system with its own file system,
database, and programming language, with linking and describing
metadata. It's also a content management system. And a pim. And the
wickedest outliner ever. And, well, whatever. I've been programming on
four platforms for twenty three years (since I was twelve, starting with
a C128) and it's about the most interesting software I've ever seen,
with the exception maybe of AutoCAD, Mathematica, and a couple of
programming languages (including Ruby). It's a bit cumbersome to keep a
task list or a log in, for me, because I'm cross-platform. But its
capabilities for project, content, and information management are
astounding. I do all substantial writing in it. And much of my software
design (yeah, instead of the UML ... I can execute parts of my design in
Tinderbox). It's the only thing I've ever seen that lets me write one
document and then generate several other documents based on it by
filtering and transforming based on metadata. Once you've gotten used to
it, how natural it is is scary. The little icons in the outline, for
example, yellow with age. The little icons also show the basic shape of
each note's contents. God it's awesome. Just go download the demo. If it
fits your needs, you'll become a zealot. Just read the manual that comes
with it.

Megpie - what can't you do? Maybe I can help.

1. http://www.eastgate.com/Tinderbox/index.html
2. http://www.eastgate.com/wiki2/
3. http://www.eastgate.com/Tinderbox/Exchange.html

{ nut - megpie } wrote:

>Apparently it's not just a scratchpad - it's a customizeable management system
>that will really do anything you want it to, because it's so flexible.  They
>convinced me and I shelled out the money - but I've been having an AWFUL time
>figuring out how to USE it.  I just can't seem to get it to do what I want - I
>don't understand the process.  So I need help.  That's the only big problem I'm
>having! Heh!

>Megan

>>Call me cheap, but $145 seems like a lot of money to pay for a
>>glorified scratchpad. Yet Tinderbox seems to keep getting favorable
>>notices in discussions on organizing information. Would any present or
>>past Tinderbox users like to discuss whether and why it's worth the
>>cost?

>>Thanks,
>>Michael


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