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unwirednomad@gmail.com  
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 More options Mar 29 2005, 5:58 am
From: "unwiredno...@gmail.com" <unwiredno...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:58:17 -0000
Local: Tues, Mar 29 2005 5:58 am
Subject: Help needed for new Mac user :-((
Hi,

I've been a PC user for more years than I care to admit to but have
recently bought a mac (10 days ago) and am already missing a very
important app I use in my work, rest and play. Namely, a text editor
that I can leave running in the background and have it automatically
grab whatever I copy to the clipboard (the PC app is NoteTabPro).

I was wondering if anyone knows of a similar app for OS X. Thanks

Regards,

Tim


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Jan Erik Moström  
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 More options Mar 29 2005, 6:35 am
From: Jan Erik Moström <most...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:35:48 +0200
Local: Tues, Mar 29 2005 6:35 am
Subject: Re: [43F Group] Help needed for new Mac user :-((
There are several, they often some other functionality, the ones I have are:

NoteBook - a notebook application

DEVONthink - a freeform database application (simplified description)

OmniOutliner - an outlining application

BBEdit - a text editor

However, they don't use the clipboard but either the contextual menu or Services
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Jimmy Montano  
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 More options Mar 29 2005, 7:49 am
From: Jimmy Montano <jmont...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:49:41 -0500
Local: Tues, Mar 29 2005 7:49 am
Subject: Re: [43F Group] Re: Help needed for new Mac user :-((
You can also try iSnip wich captures anything you put on the clipboard
and makes it available to any application in the system , plus is free

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:35:48 +0200, Jan Erik Moström <most...@gmail.com> wrote:


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Andy J. W. Affleck  
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 More options Mar 29 2005, 8:15 am
From: "Andy J. W. Affleck" <aaffl...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:15:10 -0500
Local: Tues, Mar 29 2005 8:15 am
Subject: Re: [43F Group] Re: Help needed for new Mac user :-((
The clipboard is already available to all applications... or do you
mean it stores multiple items in addition to the standard
most-recent-item?

I use and like ClipboardSharing and QuickSilver (both of which have
multi-clipboard tools). Clipboard Sharing is nice because it will
automatically share the clipboard across multiple macs on the same
network via Rendezvous (soon to be called Bonjour). I use this all of
the time at home to move snippets between two computers.

For snippet managers, I suggest a stroll through TidBITS. Matt Neuberg
has been doing a steady run of testing various ways of collecting
information and storing it for later use. He has written many articles
about various products.

Finally, look at Sticky Brain. The latest version is VERY nice and has
a nice system-wide snippet grabber which works very well. I also use
DEVONThink and like it very much as well but use it for longer things
versus small things which I put into StickyBrain.

(All tools mentioned here can be found at macupdate.com)

-A

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Jimmy Montano  
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 More options Mar 29 2005, 8:19 am
From: Jimmy Montano <jmont...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:19:39 -0500
Local: Tues, Mar 29 2005 8:19 am
Subject: Re: [43F Group] Re: Help needed for new Mac user :-((
You're right, I realized that right after sending my mail.

Yes, it storess multiple items from the clipboard. and lets you also
have predefined text snippets you can paste on any application. I'm
actually also using it as an stickies replacement

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:15:10 -0500, Andy J. W. Affleck


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 More options Mar 29 2005, 10:10 am
From: "unwiredno...@gmail.com" <unwiredno...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:10:27 -0800
Local: Tues, Mar 29 2005 10:10 am
Subject: Re: [43F Group] Re: Help needed for new Mac user :-((
Thanks for all the pointers to different packages to look at. I will
spend the weekend having a look at them.

In the meantime, if I could just explain a little more precisely what I
do at present on the PC perhaps you'd be kind enough to help me narrow
it down a bit if you can.

I run NoteTabPro, begin a new document then declare that as an
automatic recipient of anything copied to the clipboard. It grabs
anything I highlight and copy, converts it to plain text, puts in the
document and waits for the next item. I believe it also appends a
carriage return as well to every entry.

The beauty for me is that I don't have to think about it, whether I'm
clipping something from an email, a Word doc, web page or a PDF - as it
changes everything to plain text I don't end up with graphics, URLs or
tabular layouts - and with a ten minute auto-save turned on it makes my
job very easy, simple and quick.

Thanks for everyone's help.

Regards,

Tim


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Andy J. W. Affleck  
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 More options Mar 29 2005, 10:23 am
From: "Andy J. W. Affleck" <aaffl...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:23:05 -0500
Local: Tues, Mar 29 2005 10:23 am
Subject: Re: [43F Group] Re: Help needed for new Mac user :-((
StickyBrain, DEVONThink, OmniOutliner (I believe) and others all do
this. In the case of StickyBrain, you define any number of different
documents to capture to and assign each their own key combo. When you
select text in any application and hit that combo, the text goes right
to the document in question.

One of the most powerful and under-used features of OSX is the
services which allows such things to happen. I wish I used them more.
:)

-A

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 More options Mar 29 2005, 12:00 pm
From: Jeffrey Windsor <terce...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:00:18 -0700
Local: Tues, Mar 29 2005 12:00 pm
Subject: Re: [43F Group] Re: Help needed for new Mac user :-((
Yes, but no. StickyBrain and DEVONthink (both of which I own) will
indeed take selected text (from *most* applications) and toss it into
their databases. But both need to be called specifically and
separately from a copy (or cut) operation. It's not a bad solution,
but it's not exactly what unwirednomad is looking for.

Multiple clipboards is also a handy thing to have (and built-in to
Quicksilver as well as other apps), but is, again, something
different.

Which I think is a good idea. Kind of. It's sort of like a massive
inbox which *must* be processed every day, else you'll have a big ole
mess of a file. It's a mental-state thing. If I know that everything I
copy will be also saved separately, I might just copy things (random,
little things) like addresses, etc. for consideration when I process
later. Some of it I'll simply chuck upon further review, and what's
worthwhile I'll actually use.

The more I think about it, the more I like it, actually.

--jw

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 More options Mar 29 2005, 12:02 pm
From: Jeffrey C.Long <j...@jeffreyclong.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:02:00 -0700
Subject: Re: [43F Group] Re: Help needed for new Mac user :-((

Using the services menu isn't really all that functionally different
from the clipboard.  There are key commands that let you create a new
rich text note in Devonthink from a copied text in an open app.

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interior voice but will not listen to other men. He identifies the will
of God with anything that makes him feel, within his own heart, a big,
warm, sweet, interior glow. The sweeter and the warmer the feeling is,
the more he is convinced of his own infallibility." - Thomas Merton
(from, Seeds of Contemplation)

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 More options Mar 29 2005, 12:08 pm
From: Jeffrey Windsor <terce...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:08:59 -0700
Local: Tues, Mar 29 2005 12:08 pm
Subject: Re: [43F Group] Re: Help needed for new Mac user :-((
Yes, but using copy + the services menu is two operations instead of
just one, and it requires an extra thought process. You need to think
"I need to copy this information" and "I wonder if it's something I'll
need again someday?"

Consider it like this: I use the multiple clipboard functionality in
Quicksilver. Sometimes I need it; most of the time I do not. I like
that it's always there, storing the last ten copies, ready for when I
do. In the same vein, I'd like to have that same information be saved
to disk as well. So when I discover that I need the spelling of the
word I copied, say, twenty copies ago, I'd know it was saved in the
all-copy-file.

I'm not saying it's crucial, but it might be interesting. I think I'd
keep it running in the background, if such an app existed.

--jw

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 More options Mar 29 2005, 1:13 pm
From: Samuel DeVore <sdev...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:13:57 -0700
Local: Tues, Mar 29 2005 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: [43F Group] Re: Help needed for new Mac user :-((
Humm,  maybe I'll play around with this idea...  So what you might be
looking for is an application that might sit in the background and
watches for changes to the clipboard and if there is a text based
content that is new, append it to a text file.  Optional timestamping?

sam d


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